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I myself belong to a big family. I have 6 siblings and all of us are planned. My parents wanted to have 7 kids. My parents definitely see children as a blessing, not a hardship. I know it has been hard on my parents, and they've made many sacrifices for us. I cant imagine my life without my sisters.I think that if I had fewer siblings, life wouldn’t be as much fun as it is.
In my opinion, there's nothing wrong if the family is going to practice family planning. Birth control has both pros and cons. It can be either natural or artificial method. There's no 100 percent guarantee that you'll be safe from not conceiving by using various methods. Let's be practical nowadays, people are engaging sexual immorality for sexual gratification. I think it's nice that families are being practical about bearing children. I know not all have the financial capabilities to have kids.Planning your future is important, especially when it comes to planning your family.Raising children can be rewarding and meaningful but it can be very demanding in both emotional and financial aspect. Haven't you noticed that mothers opted to have their child to be adopted or aborted because they cant afford to have one. I know it's horrible. Those innocent babies deserve to live just as God gave us a chance to live here on earth. As a health practitioner, It's mandatory to give health teaching to parents about family planning. This helps parents to have adequate time to prepare for a new adjustment in terms of mental and financial aspect. Are we going to wait that long until AIDS will become Epidemic in the whole world? Just think about those poor orphaned kids wandering around the streets? Im pretty sure most of them are unwanted or "accidental pregnancies".Family planning should be implemented and practiced to avoid unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases.. But there's also a downside because people will tend to abuse the use of contraceptives. I know in some countries abortion is legalized. We dont have to prerogative to get rid of life but only God has the right because He is the author of life. A lot of parents are really eager to have their own kids but you are given the chance to conceive yet you are just gonna get rid of it. People should be responsible with their own actions! What if you had abortion today but in the near you future where in you are now ready to have raise kids but only to find out that you can no longer bear children anymore.I applaud those mothers who are responsible enough to keep their babies despite the circumstances.
In my opinion, there's nothing wrong if the family is going to practice family planning. Birth control has both pros and cons. It can be either natural or artificial method. There's no 100 percent guarantee that you'll be safe from not conceiving by using various methods. Let's be practical nowadays, people are engaging sexual immorality for sexual gratification. I think it's nice that families are being practical about bearing children. I know not all have the financial capabilities to have kids.Planning your future is important, especially when it comes to planning your family.Raising children can be rewarding and meaningful but it can be very demanding in both emotional and financial aspect. Haven't you noticed that mothers opted to have their child to be adopted or aborted because they cant afford to have one. I know it's horrible. Those innocent babies deserve to live just as God gave us a chance to live here on earth. As a health practitioner, It's mandatory to give health teaching to parents about family planning. This helps parents to have adequate time to prepare for a new adjustment in terms of mental and financial aspect. Are we going to wait that long until AIDS will become Epidemic in the whole world? Just think about those poor orphaned kids wandering around the streets? Im pretty sure most of them are unwanted or "accidental pregnancies".Family planning should be implemented and practiced to avoid unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases.. But there's also a downside because people will tend to abuse the use of contraceptives. I know in some countries abortion is legalized. We dont have to prerogative to get rid of life but only God has the right because He is the author of life. A lot of parents are really eager to have their own kids but you are given the chance to conceive yet you are just gonna get rid of it. People should be responsible with their own actions! What if you had abortion today but in the near you future where in you are now ready to have raise kids but only to find out that you can no longer bear children anymore.I applaud those mothers who are responsible enough to keep their babies despite the circumstances.
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I trust 100% that if God intends for me to have a baby, there is NOTHING I can do to stop it.
But another point I want to bring up...I hear often that God makes no comment on birth control in the Bible because it is a recent invention. This is not true. Birth control has been around in various forms for just about all of human history. It was absolutely, completely, undeniably around during Bible times...frequently used, even. Not just for rich people, but for all people. The silence here means something (unlike the Bible's silence on whether or not it's okay to text and drive or play video games).
Abortion is wrong. Absolutely. It is murder.
Taking preventative steps, however, is not wrong. It's being responsible.
If what the OP is saying was true, it would be written in no uncertain terms- the wife's responsibility is to be a baby factory. Anything that stands in the way of making as many children as physically possible is a sin.
But it doesn't say that.
But another point I want to bring up...I hear often that God makes no comment on birth control in the Bible because it is a recent invention. This is not true. Birth control has been around in various forms for just about all of human history. It was absolutely, completely, undeniably around during Bible times...frequently used, even. Not just for rich people, but for all people. The silence here means something (unlike the Bible's silence on whether or not it's okay to text and drive or play video games).
Abortion is wrong. Absolutely. It is murder.
Taking preventative steps, however, is not wrong. It's being responsible.
If what the OP is saying was true, it would be written in no uncertain terms- the wife's responsibility is to be a baby factory. Anything that stands in the way of making as many children as physically possible is a sin.
But it doesn't say that.
God said be fruitful and multiply. People have done that, it is accomplished. The earth is full and running over.
It would be like a father telling a son to bring in wood for the wood burning fireplace. If the son obeys until the living room is filled with the wood, don’t you think the son would catch on to that it is time to stop, and to bring the wood when it was needed.
It would be like a father telling a son to bring in wood for the wood burning fireplace. If the son obeys until the living room is filled with the wood, don’t you think the son would catch on to that it is time to stop, and to bring the wood when it was needed.
R
Sounds like Tonydisciple for whatever reason has this issue with birth control..so married folks should just have like 15 kids even if they cannot afford it..or if they choose to not have kids(wow, some married couples don't want kids, i guess that is a sin too!)
That is not a sin Tonydisciple(buddy, maybe change your name to Tonydillusioned)*
The Lord would not want to overburden you with more children than you can have. Contraception is not a sin, it can be responsibly used between two consenting married Adults and should not be looked down upon.
Or do you dare say that Sexual relations between a man and his wife are merely for procreational purposes and nothing else?
What rock do you live under?
If you think this way, you may need to renew your mind before you ever think of getting married.
That is not a sin Tonydisciple(buddy, maybe change your name to Tonydillusioned)*
The Lord would not want to overburden you with more children than you can have. Contraception is not a sin, it can be responsibly used between two consenting married Adults and should not be looked down upon.
Or do you dare say that Sexual relations between a man and his wife are merely for procreational purposes and nothing else?
What rock do you live under?
If you think this way, you may need to renew your mind before you ever think of getting married.
R
That's legalism..some radical form of it, but its legalism. That's all this is..of course there will be some use of one or two old testament scriptures where someone 'spilled his seed' and God punished him being used i am sure..but that's old testament and in the light of Disobedience towards what God had told a man that particular time. But to say that you must plan on having 22 kids with your wife, as a woman who is healthy could have many many children over a period of time in her married life..does that sound reasonable? What if the doctors say, ok this child..or these two, you cannot have any more.
Tony Disciple, my mom was ordered NOT to have any more children after having me and my twin brother..who by the way we almost killed her. Was she supposed to i guess in your definition, 'be fruitfull' when she had a chance of having twins or even triplets again or maybe dying or possibly having more children than she could afford? Was her and my dad to be irresponsible? You tell me how that is reasonable, loving..or even sensible..its not..
that makes no sense..that's irresponsible. That's not obeying God's commands..that is being ridiculously erroneous..and here we have many people who have many children, of whom they do not take care of..and then it's up to the government/others to care for them. Surely that's not what God had intended. Have the kids you can afford..financially, and those whom you can invest your time,care and love into..no more.
Tony Disciple, my mom was ordered NOT to have any more children after having me and my twin brother..who by the way we almost killed her. Was she supposed to i guess in your definition, 'be fruitfull' when she had a chance of having twins or even triplets again or maybe dying or possibly having more children than she could afford? Was her and my dad to be irresponsible? You tell me how that is reasonable, loving..or even sensible..its not..
that makes no sense..that's irresponsible. That's not obeying God's commands..that is being ridiculously erroneous..and here we have many people who have many children, of whom they do not take care of..and then it's up to the government/others to care for them. Surely that's not what God had intended. Have the kids you can afford..financially, and those whom you can invest your time,care and love into..no more.
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Young is one thing..making radical assumptions about just blindly having as many kids as you and your wife can spit out..that's taking a scripture and abusing somebody with it.
My mom almost died man! Was she to risk making several kids orphans(she ended up raising us on her own later on in life) because God said in one scripture be fruitfull and multiply? She spent 10 days in the hospital after we were born..my mother's cousins helped my dad with us until she recovered..
nothing wrong with being young..but some young uns just say underneath the rock they were born under and never learn a thing or two about life. That's not despising you for youth...that's admonishing you for saying ignoramous things. 2 totally different things there, learn to discern a little.
My mom almost died man! Was she to risk making several kids orphans(she ended up raising us on her own later on in life) because God said in one scripture be fruitfull and multiply? She spent 10 days in the hospital after we were born..my mother's cousins helped my dad with us until she recovered..
nothing wrong with being young..but some young uns just say underneath the rock they were born under and never learn a thing or two about life. That's not despising you for youth...that's admonishing you for saying ignoramous things. 2 totally different things there, learn to discern a little.
Some people don't want to have kids. There is nothing wrong with a male or female (I'm sure you can get female condoms) wearing a condom or a female taking birth control pills.
Does the bible say that you can't use 'medical things' to avoid having kids? No. The likelihood of birth control being around during bible times is unlikely. Still, if God didn't want us to avoid having kids, don't you think He would of told us not to?
I agree with you, except the first sentence. We are both 16. We've never been in a marital situation. A married person will most likely give better marital advice than a teen. Although, this is not always the case.
Ladies using birth control is fine altogether. Like I have already said, some people don't want to have kids. Either temporarily or permanently. They might not want kids, but they can still have sex.
Birth control is not a sin IMO. It is an option of contraception. God said; "Be fruitful and multiply", but that doesn't make birth control a sin.
God provides for everyone. We must ask God for them provisions.
I only agree with one sentence in there. There is something wrong if you hold off kids to have a career, more money and overseas holidays. But you also need to be able to support the family.
When you say 'close the womb', do you mean 'having the tubes tied'? That isn't a sin IMO. That can be choice after a miscarriage or before kids altogether.
Does the bible say that you can't use 'medical things' to avoid having kids? No. The likelihood of birth control being around during bible times is unlikely. Still, if God didn't want us to avoid having kids, don't you think He would of told us not to?
I agree with you, except the first sentence. We are both 16. We've never been in a marital situation. A married person will most likely give better marital advice than a teen. Although, this is not always the case.
Ladies using birth control is fine altogether. Like I have already said, some people don't want to have kids. Either temporarily or permanently. They might not want kids, but they can still have sex.
Birth control is not a sin IMO. It is an option of contraception. God said; "Be fruitful and multiply", but that doesn't make birth control a sin.
God provides for everyone. We must ask God for them provisions.
I only agree with one sentence in there. There is something wrong if you hold off kids to have a career, more money and overseas holidays. But you also need to be able to support the family.
When you say 'close the womb', do you mean 'having the tubes tied'? That isn't a sin IMO. That can be choice after a miscarriage or before kids altogether.
As TomB_2012 said, some people don't want kids. I don't want kids.
I was raised an only child, in a quiet home. I didn't have brothers or sisters so that I could learn how to care for a baby. And I hate noise, which children make a lot of.
And Chadtreme, you obviously have no idea what it's like to care for one child, let alone several. You have to buy baby formula, toys, diapers, doctor visits, baby food, baby clothes, and it doesn't get any cheaper as they get older. You have to continue buying them clothes until they are well into their teens, because they grow and will constantly need new clothes. Not to mention all the gadgets that every child must have (and will periodically need replaced) such as computers, mp3 players, cell phones, and video games. That's just a few of the expenses with raising a child. Just imagine doing that with ten to twelve children!
And then you have the messes they make, and the money replacing stuff they damage. You have accidents, such as maybe breaking a bone or getting stung by a bee. And then there's the crying when they're young. I can't stand to hear a child cry.
And all these things together, makes me not want kids. And if I had a child, I'd probably put it up for adoption. I may have a hard time finding a man who doesn't want kids, and unfortunately, I'll have to turn down any nice men who want children, because that is one thing a couple must agree on.
I was raised an only child, in a quiet home. I didn't have brothers or sisters so that I could learn how to care for a baby. And I hate noise, which children make a lot of.
And Chadtreme, you obviously have no idea what it's like to care for one child, let alone several. You have to buy baby formula, toys, diapers, doctor visits, baby food, baby clothes, and it doesn't get any cheaper as they get older. You have to continue buying them clothes until they are well into their teens, because they grow and will constantly need new clothes. Not to mention all the gadgets that every child must have (and will periodically need replaced) such as computers, mp3 players, cell phones, and video games. That's just a few of the expenses with raising a child. Just imagine doing that with ten to twelve children!
And then you have the messes they make, and the money replacing stuff they damage. You have accidents, such as maybe breaking a bone or getting stung by a bee. And then there's the crying when they're young. I can't stand to hear a child cry.
And all these things together, makes me not want kids. And if I had a child, I'd probably put it up for adoption. I may have a hard time finding a man who doesn't want kids, and unfortunately, I'll have to turn down any nice men who want children, because that is one thing a couple must agree on.
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The Agriculture Department's Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion says that it costs $235,000 to raise a child to the age of 17 for most middle income families.
The report also says that if you have 3 or more, you spend about 22% less per child. So ten kids is a measly $1.8 million... as long as none of them go to college. Or, you know, want anything.
The report also says that if you have 3 or more, you spend about 22% less per child. So ten kids is a measly $1.8 million... as long as none of them go to college. Or, you know, want anything.
Yes, 235,000 for the bare basics. But all parents, good parents, want to give good gifts to their children. You can't expect to raise children without digging into your pocket for extra stuff, like at Christmas and birthdays.
Does that report include insurance on cars and gas when the child starts driving?
Yes, what you say is true, but it still stands that having children is very costly.
Does that report include insurance on cars and gas when the child starts driving?
Yes, what you say is true, but it still stands that having children is very costly.