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The Tights! The Shorts! The Skirts! Aaaagh!
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it's just our society not having any morals left, anyone who is a Christian knows the end times are coming, and every kind of sin is running rampant, it's just like the times before the fall of the Roman empire, women are running around with no kind of morals or inhibition, being drunk is considered to be a fun thing to do as often as possible, it's party party party, I was reading that orgies are back in among teens, girls getting pregnant and having no idea who the father is, It's EXACTLY like Roman times, it's not just the girls either, young people are being taught that homosexuality is ok and normal, we even have the "gladiators" on TV, the most popular program on TV is wrestling, Just turn to God,pray to him for your mind to be kept clean,don't give in to lust,as the enemy wants you to , If I was a young person today, I wouldn't want anything to do with a girl who shows almost everything walking down the street, if she will do that to everyone else, how could you trust her to be true to you.
The skimpy revolution has a lot to do with the media... movies, celebrities, pop stars and the entertainment world. What else can you expect? Their main purpose is to attract attention. That's not our purpose.
The unfortunate thing is that we see the effects of the media in our youngsters. So, parents, teach your children not to imitate the media! The effects are not just limited to clothing. We can see the effects in how we conduct ourselves in our relationships as well.
I live in a country where the media has been going through the transition from modest to "bold" to skimpy. I can see the effect it has been having on youngsters. I say this because, as the trends in media change, we see a corresponding change in the way youngsters dress.
I know that it's not just about youngsters. However it begins with youngsters and moves on to the next generation where the adults too find it cool to be skimpy.
About how a guy must deal with this:
Job 31:1 "I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl.
The unfortunate thing is that we see the effects of the media in our youngsters. So, parents, teach your children not to imitate the media! The effects are not just limited to clothing. We can see the effects in how we conduct ourselves in our relationships as well.
I live in a country where the media has been going through the transition from modest to "bold" to skimpy. I can see the effect it has been having on youngsters. I say this because, as the trends in media change, we see a corresponding change in the way youngsters dress.
I know that it's not just about youngsters. However it begins with youngsters and moves on to the next generation where the adults too find it cool to be skimpy.
About how a guy must deal with this:
Job 31:1 "I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl.
if you want to see how far down our society has declined in morals , a couple of years ago a popular costume for little girls at Halloween was to dress as a hooker. And the parents were dressing their children like this!! I remember when that happened it just made me outraged, but what can you do , most people don't care anymore, it's no wonder young girls dress like this today, when I was a kid a risky dress was Daisy duke dressing in her famous shorts, she wouldn't even get noticed today
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violakat
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Wow that is seriously a disturbing and extraordinary naive woman. Men, correct me if I'm, wrong, but isn't one of the first natural thoughts (not referring to good Christian response) out of your head typically, "That woman wants to have sex right now" when you see a woman that is dressed provocatively
I dont want to see some guys butt crack hanging out either, as far as a guy not wearing his shirt thats considered acceptable behavior in society, young people just need to respect themselves many of them dont think about what they are wearing and what it makes others think of them,not trying to judge them, but it's getting ridiculous, it makes me sad to think all these young women dont have morals anymore
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violakat
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I say to the first group, GROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. I don't need to see all your business hanging out your backside. As for the second group, well they usually are getting the reaction they want because they are hanging around the women who will give it. But in away, I wonder if they really have respect for themselves?
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violakat
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Lost, what you don't realize is that many women deal with lust themselves. And a man that is shirtless could just as easily stir emotions in a woman as a scantily clad woman stirs desires in a man.
Actually its more wow I wouldnt mind that, not 'clearly by this womans attire, she is searching only for sex'
down here in the South it may be more acceptable, many guys work outside in the heat and often not wearing a shirt is the only way to keep cool, it's not trying to cause lust in women, it's a practical consideration, now if I walked around without a shirt, I would just scare them away, ewwww it's some old guy!!
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violakat
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I actually live in the South, so I do understand that. But, that can still effect women.
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violakat
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And hence, this is where the problem lies. Many women know the weakness of men and prey upon it.
As a man, I would say the common response among the unsaved (I work around plenty of them) is not that she wants sex, but that the man wants to have sex with her, and possibly mentally removing what clothing she does have. Someone, in my opinion, has to mentally reduced women to a mere sex object to have their first thought be that the woman wants sex.
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Lucy68
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I'm glad I only have one daughter because my sanity couldn't handle another one. I now know why it was Eve who initiated the apple-eating disaster 
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My daughter and I had all sorts of arguments about proper clothes...shopping together was a nightmare. She's now 21 and I thank God I don't have to be responsible for how she dresses anymore. She still doesn't wear a winter coat because it 'makes her look fat'. And using an umbrella on a college campus is 'uncool'.
I tried having a heart-to-heart conversation with her when she was in her teens about what kind of guy she was attracting by dressing provocatively and she just could not, or would not, understand. She'd just say, 'but Mom, this looks nice; it isn't sending any messages to guys'. If she tried on a shirt and God forbid it should have a wrinkle at her waist (another argument...WHERE IS THE WAIST LOCATED?), it was 'too big'.
Sorry, I had to vent
.My daughter and I had all sorts of arguments about proper clothes...shopping together was a nightmare. She's now 21 and I thank God I don't have to be responsible for how she dresses anymore. She still doesn't wear a winter coat because it 'makes her look fat'. And using an umbrella on a college campus is 'uncool'.
I tried having a heart-to-heart conversation with her when she was in her teens about what kind of guy she was attracting by dressing provocatively and she just could not, or would not, understand. She'd just say, 'but Mom, this looks nice; it isn't sending any messages to guys'. If she tried on a shirt and God forbid it should have a wrinkle at her waist (another argument...WHERE IS THE WAIST LOCATED?), it was 'too big'.
Sorry, I had to vent
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Lucy68
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I referred to Eve's being the first one to sin because my daughter was extremely strong-willed. She's getting better though
Life's lessons are very educational but it sure would have saved her some heart-ache if she'd listened to her mother in the first place.
Life's lessons are very educational but it sure would have saved her some heart-ache if she'd listened to her mother in the first place.
Just because something is considered acceptable behavior in society certainly doesn't make it right.
violakat has a good point that can't be explained away.
If you argue a man needs to take off his shirt to stay cool, then women can argue they need to dress skimpy to stay cool. What is the difference? There shouldn't be a double standard.
I don't think either should advertise themselves by wearing less.
violakat has a good point that can't be explained away.
If you argue a man needs to take off his shirt to stay cool, then women can argue they need to dress skimpy to stay cool. What is the difference? There shouldn't be a double standard.
I don't think either should advertise themselves by wearing less.
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Ugly
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Actually, the majority of the guys i hear talk about this, DO take responsibility for their actions. As well as are aware that many women dress to get attention. Frankly i tire of women saying 'men need to stop making excuses'. The problem here is not that men are not taking their end of the blame, its that when they bring the subject up, they are addressing the other half of the problem, the women that dress to show. A guy is not likely to write out a forum post detailing the struggles and faults he accepts, he's likely to talk one on one to another guy about that struggle. So it may seem he's minimizing his blame, but he's not. He's just not making his private struggle a huge public discussion.
On the other hand, the way many women choose to dress in public, and the added effects it has on an already struggling man, is something that can be addressed publicly. Fact is, many Christian women are more focused on trends than considering the rightness of what they wear. I see it all the time. Even among otherwise respectable women. Sure, they may not be as bad as their secular counterparts, but not being 'as bad' as non-Christians doesn't mean its not still too much. Struggle for a man, or not, i would still like to see more Christian women dress with a touch more modesty.