Jesus is a God of conditional Love, not unconditional love.

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Ariel82

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ozell said:
The teaching of today is that Fod love everyone or his love is unconditional

If this is so then no one should be dying or sick

No one should even die a first or a second death
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that is a lie and shows how much you don't understand. GOD's love is unconditional yet men keep telling lies about God because they are like liittle children whining that God doesn't do things by THEIR rules.

No one would be punished, they all should eat cake.

they don't want to learn, they just want to be right.

the bible talks about what happens to people with that attitude quite a bit.
 
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Psalm 139:20-22

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20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

so much for unconditional love from God!
 
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Proverbs 6
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
20 My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

so much for unconditional love from God
 
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Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Exodus 32:31-33

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31 And Moses returned unto the Lord, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
33 And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

so much for unconditional love

 
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lets read what Jesus told the Father to do to the wicked

Psalm 69

21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.
23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.
24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.
25 Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their tents.
26 For they persecute him whom thou hast smitten; and they talk to the grief of those whom thou hast wounded.
27 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy righteousness.
28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

Jesus is cold that's why I love him so much.

he is not going to let the wicked rule with the righteous.

God don't love everyone as this false teaching says.
 
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Deuteronomy 31:3-5

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3 The Lord thy God, he will go over before thee, and he will destroy these nations from before thee, and thou shalt possess them: and Joshua, he shall go over before thee, as the Lord hath said.
4 And the Lord shall do unto them as he did to Sihon and to Og, kings of the Amorites, and unto the land of them, whom he destroyed.
5 And the Lord shall give them up before your face, that ye may do unto them according unto all the commandments which I have commanded you.

God don't play

if you are wicked and sin, God don't love you and he will destroy you.
 
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Old testament . . law and death.

New testament; atonement, repentance and forgiveness.

Every knee shall bow. Every tongue shall confess.

God is love.
 
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Mediate said:
Old testament . . law and death.

New testament; atonement, repentance and forgiveness.

Every knee shall bow. Every tongue shall confess.

God is love.
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Luke 16


28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

pay close attention

what is love?

Proverbs 8:17
I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

the law is love

 
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Jesus the God of Love


2 Thessalonians 1
6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

look at the conditions

they that know not God
they that obey not the gospel of Jesus
 
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hear a parable

Matthew 24
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

so much for Love of everyone!!!
 
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Mediate said:
Old testament . . law and death.

New testament; atonement, repentance and forgiveness.

Every knee shall bow. Every tongue shall confess.

God is love.
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OT= atonement, repentance and forgiveness.
try reading it!

Isaiah 45:22-24

King James Version (KJV)

22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
24 Surely, shall one say, in the Lord have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.

:)
 
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Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

so much for unconditional love
 
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Amos 3:6
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?


NO

why is the God of love sending evil in a city when he loves everyone?
 
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ozell said:
Luke 16


28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

pay close attention

what is love?

Proverbs 8:17
I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

the law is love

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Yes it is. And the law of sin and death was fulfilled and paid for because of that love.
 
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Mediate said:
Yes it is. And the law of sin and death was fulfilled and paid for because of that love.
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how can you say the sin and death wasd fulfilled when both are cast into the lake of fire on judgement day?

let read

Rev 20

10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

so when is death and sin fulfilled?

at judgement day!!!
 
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God must have forgotten all about that he love everyone on judgment day. :confused:

Rev 20

10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 
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Ariel82 said:
that is a lie and shows how much you don't understand. GOD's love is unconditional yet men keep telling lies about God because they are like liittle children whining that God doesn't do things by THEIR rules.

No one would be punished, they all should eat cake.

they don't want to learn, they just want to be right.

the bible talks about what happens to people with that attitude quite a bit.
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i understand that you have not read this bible and dont understand what is written?

God don't love everyone and his actions prove it!
 
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Mediate said:
Yes it is. And the law of sin and death was fulfilled and paid for because of that love.
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this is love from God

Matthew 25:34
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:



this is not love

Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 
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Gods love for us
Rom 8:37-39
John 3:16
Galatians 2:20
Ephesians 2:4-5
1 John 4:7-11
1 John 3:1
Zephaniah 3:17
1 Peter 5:6-7
Job 34:19
Psalm 86:15
 
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carey said:
Gods love for us
Rom 8:37-39
John 3:16
Galatians 2:20
Ephesians 2:4-5
1 John 4:7-11
1 John 3:1
Zephaniah 3:17
1 Peter 5:6-7
Job 34:19
Psalm 86:15
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Malachi 1:2-4


2 I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Leviticus 20:22-24

King James Version (KJV)

22 Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, spue you not out.
23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Deuteronomy 32:19
And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.


Zechariah 11:7-9


7 And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.
8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
9 Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another
 
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