Can someone lose their salvation?

[Abiding]

i disagree with this statement, if it were true then there would be no need for a Judgement Day to determine where everyone is going, He would already know this. Read the story of Abraham sacrificing his son, God did it TO SEE WHAT HE WOULD DO, it was a test, God tested Him because He did not know the outcome of it, He gives us free choice, that is why God is either pleased with our choices or displeased. If He already knows what our choices would be, then He would not be displeased if we did what He already knew we were going to do. i explain this much better in my article "Does God Know Everything" ironically it was God who revealed this to me.

before i am bombarded by responses to this particular post please first read Does God Know Everything before responding, because all the Scriptural references are in the article.

^i^

There obviously is alot of scripture you dont know yet. Which would tell you
that God cant learn, Hes not in time, and there is a figure of speech known as
anthropomorphisms. I read your paper but i believe its wrong according to
scripture. Judgement day is not for God to learn anything...its a day He has promised
all men. Why would you think it was necessary for Him to learn?

 

[DiscipleDave]

Simple questions:

Can a Saved person who hates someone enter into the Kingdom of God?

Can a Saved person who can't forgive another person of something enter into the Kingdom of God?

Can a Saved person who lives in fornication enter into the Kingdom of God?

Can a Saved person who lives in sin enter into the Kingdom of God?

Can a Saved person who continually without ceasing to knowingly and willingly obey satan (Jesus enemy) enter into the Kingdom of God?

It is clearly written if you do not forgive others neither will you be forgiven. So tell me then, if a Saved person (like yourself) is, say for example, raped. And you do not forgive that person, will you still go to Heaven even though your sins are not forgiven because you did not forgive the rapist?

Also is it not written that we are cleansed IF we walk in the light as Jesus walked in the light? Tell me if a Saved person (like yourself) is not walking in the light as Jesus walked in the light, are you still cleansed even though you are NOT walking in the light as Jesus did?

IJohn1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

i am telling you all the Truth, let me die a horrible painful long suffering death, and let me live for eternity in Hell if i lie that Once Saved Always Saved is not the Truth, nor is it Scriptural, and i pray this in the name of Jesus Christ my Master and Lord, let this i pray come upon me, if i am lying. Once Saved Always Saved is a tool for satan to use to keep people from finding that narrow and difficult road that leads to life everlasting in the Kingdom of Heaven, it is a lie, it is not the Truth. And all those who believe in OSAS will have no cloak when they stand before God on Judgement Day, for a servant of God, and many others likewise, have tried many times to reveal this Truth to them, but they refuse to believe it, nor do they go to the Scriptures to find out the Truth. OSAS is not backed up by Scriptures it is what man teaches to be the Truth, but Scriptures does not teach this doctrine. Repent and believe the Scriptures and not what man teaches you. Believe the Scriptures which teach you can indeed be blotted out of the Book of Life. Lo i have warned you all.

^i^

 

[Abiding]

i hear what you are saying, but i have to believe the Scriptures and what they say. i am not adding my interpretation, inference, or my philosophy to the verses, only like a child believing what they plainly say and teach. And they plainly say and teach that a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life. i don't say that, Scriptures teach that. You can either believe Scriptures and what they teach or believe the teachings of men who teach contrary to the Scriptures. For example there are people who teach you can't be blotted out of the Book of Life, yet Scriptures plainly (with no interpretation needed) teach you CAN be blotted out.

Revelations 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Revelations 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Exodus 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

So should i believe man, or believe the Word of God? i choose to believe the Word of God and not what men teach.

Here is a challenge for anyone, show me verses which says You Can't be removed from the Book of Life? Because the above Scriptures plainly teach you can be removed, or blotted out of it. And that is the Truth, it is not my inference or philosophy but is what the Scriptures plainly and simply teach, no interpretation needed. Of course i understand the thinking of this generation though, if they do not agree with what a verse plainly says and teaches, that is when they ADD interpretation to the verses to change what they plainly say and teach to mean something that they believe.

Please read my chapter on Once Saved Always Saved for more Scriptural proof that that teaching is a false doctrine.

^i^

Theres a book of life and the Lambs book of life..which explains a whole different thing than you have.
Show me a scripture where it says ill blot you out of the Lambs book of life.

 

[Abiding]

This one i had to force myself to read after you telling us you had a personal tutor session with God Himself.

Anyway apply all your logic to King David...did he get saved, lost, then saved again?

 

[Abiding]

Simple questions:

Can a Saved person who hates someone enter into the Kingdom of God?

Can a Saved person who can't forgive another person of something enter into the Kingdom of God?

Can a Saved person who lives in fornication enter into the Kingdom of God?

Can a Saved person who lives in sin enter into the Kingdom of God?

Can a Saved person who continually without ceasing to knowingly and willingly obey satan (Jesus enemy) enter into the Kingdom of God?

It is clearly written if you do not forgive others neither will you be forgiven. So tell me then, if a Saved person (like yourself) is, say for example, raped. And you do not forgive that person, will you still go to Heaven even though your sins are not forgiven because you did not forgive the rapist?

Also is it not written that we are cleansed IF we walk in the light as Jesus walked in the light? Tell me if a Saved person (like yourself) is not walking in the light as Jesus walked in the light, are you still cleansed even though you are NOT walking in the light as Jesus did?

IJohn1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

i am telling you all the Truth, let me die a horrible painful long suffering death, and let me live for eternity in Hell if i lie that Once Saved Always Saved is not the Truth, nor is it Scriptural, and i pray this in the name of Jesus Christ my Master and Lord, let this i pray come upon me, if i am lying. Once Saved Always Saved is a tool for satan to use to keep people from finding that narrow and difficult road that leads to life everlasting in the Kingdom of Heaven, it is a lie, it is not the Truth. And all those who believe in OSAS will have no cloak when they stand before God on Judgement Day, for a servant of God, and many others likewise, have tried many times to reveal this Truth to them, but they refuse to believe it, nor do they go to the Scriptures to find out the Truth. OSAS is not backed up by Scriptures it is what man teaches to be the Truth, but Scriptures does not teach this doctrine. Repent and believe the Scriptures and not what man teaches you. Believe the Scriptures which teach you can indeed be blotted out of the Book of Life. Lo i have warned you all.

^i^

Why are you putting me on the spot for OSAS....my the OSAS haters love to do that.
I responded to some of your assertions...not OSAS.

 

[Abiding]

David was a cheater, liar, and a murderer, and a man after Gods own heart.
And Christ is right now Siting on Davids throne. Imagine that!

 

[DiscipleDave]

This one i had to force myself to read after you telling us you had a personal tutor session with God Himself.

Anyway apply all your logic to King David...did he get saved, lost, then saved again?

King David was Saved because at the end of his life, he was abiding by the Laws of Moses. King David was under the old covenant, a Covenant of laws, statutes, and ordinances (over 600 commandments). He was not Saved, Born again, under Jesus Christ, under the New Covenant. King David was Saved via the old covenant.

Under the Old Covenant a person indeed was considered lost, until they sacrificed certain animals for certain sins to have their sins cleansed of that sin, to be right again in the sight of God.

will answer more in the following posts.

^i^

 

[loveme1]

It is a condition of our heart.

Be humble and remember your first love each and every day.

Ask for strength and guidance.

Let there be no "i'm saved and can do nothing to lose it"

That is a haughty attitude.

Make sure you keep your lamps full of oil my friends.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Why are you putting me on the spot for OSAS....my the OSAS haters love to do that.
I responded to some of your assertions...not OSAS.

i do appoligize that you think i am putting you on the spot, i am unaware that you and i were even having a conversation at all. i do not recall ever replying to you or addressing you at all. i do appoligize if you feel that i have in some way put YOU on the spot, that is not, nor ever was my intentions. i merely asked those questions in the event by answering them those who believe OSAS will come to the light and understand that it is not the Truth. Are you saying then that you are one of those people? if so please show me Scriptures that support what you believe, is that a lot to ask for? Seriously would you please answer the questions that i presented to you such as Can a Saved person hate someone and still enter into the Kingdom of God? i mean if once you are Saved, you will always be saved, then it stands to reason that you can also hate someone and still think you are Heaven bound because you believe the OSAS doctrine, yet Scriptures plainly teach those who hate others will not enter into the Kingdom of God, So how can both be True?

Also your comment above OSAS haters. i hope you don't think i am such, i hate nobody at all, but love even as Jesus loved. i will willing die for a person who believes the false doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved just as well as i would die for a person who did not believe that false doctrine. Does it make it easier for you to cope with this Truth, by thinking i am a hater of it? just wandering. i know homosexuals do exactly that, when you try to address the sinfulness of it, they likewise accuse them as being haters. Is this then that same thing?

i meant you no wrong, if you do not believe it then so be it, if you do, then so be it. i love you and mean you no harm, if you want to believe OSAS who am i to try to convince you otherwise? it is not my calling to convince anyone of anything at all. But it is my calling to reveal those things that God has told me to reveal, this i have done. What is it to me if you believe OSAS or what is it to me if you don't believe OSAS. What is important to me, is that i teach what He tells me to teach, and this i have done. i did not mean to offend you in any way, i love you. and until this post i didn't even know what you believed.

Again, sorry if i have offended you in some way, it was not my intentions.

^i^

 

[DiscipleDave]

David was a cheater, liar, and a murderer, and a man after Gods own heart.
And Christ is right now Siting on Davids throne. Imagine that!

David did all things to please God, except in the case Uriah the Hittite.

I King 15: 5 Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

i can't imagine that, because it is not True. You have to try to understand, Christ is not going to sit on the throne of David until which point He comes back to the Earth to reign over it. The Throne of David is on the Earth, not in Heaven. Jesus right now is in Heaven, in the Temple of God interceding on our behalf and when he is not doing that He is sitting on the right hand of God, sitting on THE Throne of God in Heaven. He is not here on Earth to sit on the Throne of David. He will sit on the Throne of David when He becomes King of Kings here on Earth. This has not yet happened.

Hope this has helped your understanding of the Throne of David, which currently resides in England.

^i^

 

[DiscipleDave]

Theres a book of life and the Lambs book of life..which explains a whole different thing than you have.
Show me a scripture where it says ill blot you out of the Lambs book of life.

i see and understand, when the Scriptures says a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life, you don't believe that is the lambs book of life, you have to interpret those verses to mean another book right? Because if it was referring to the actual Book of Life where the names of the saints are written in, then you would have to change what you believe, and you do not want to do that.

As i said before, i am not called to try to convince you of the Truth, i told you the Truth, and i gave credit to the one who gave it to me. God told me these things, if you do not believe it, then don't believe it, i am not going to try to convince you of it, that is not my calling, i have done what Jesus requires of me, i have told you the Truth, what you do with it is up to you. i love you, i really do, but it is not my responsibility to MAKE you see the Truth, i have told you what God has told me, i have done what He wanted me to do. i can tell just talking with you, that there is no convincing you otherwise concerning this false doctrine, i bet hundreds of others God has sent to you also to try to get you to see the Truth, so it will not be God's fault when you plead to Him on Judgment Day " I didn't know Lord" When you did know, just you refused to hear the Truth. Those who know the Truth, hear the Truth, they know the Truth when they hear, because it is the same Spirit of Truth that reveals the same Truths to all who will hear it. Those who do not have the Spirit of Truth will not hear the Truth. AGAIN, i am not referring to you or saying anything about you specifically, but that is a general statement which is a True statement.

You have Free will, choose what you want to believe. i will believe the Word of God, which plainly says and teaches a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life. You have to ADD your interpretation to the Book of Life as to not change what you believe, i understand this, again believe what you want, it is not my calling to try to change what you believe, it is my calling to reveal to you the Truth, this i have done. Love you, and may the Lord Jesus Bless you and your family.

^i^

 

[feedm3]

Good questions. I thought they should be answered with scripture, seeing there are so many who seem to be deceived.

Lots of passages here. The majority of them are written directly to Christians, warning them, of what so many refuse to see and attempt to exaplain them away.

Simple questions:

Can a Saved person who hates someone enter into the Kingdom of God?

No - Matt 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire

Can a Saved person who can't forgive another person of something enter into the Kingdom of God?

No - Matt 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses

Can a Saved person who lives in fornication enter into the Kingdom of God?

No -Notice these passages were almost all written to Christians:

I Cor 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind

I Cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are

I Thess 4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. 2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication

Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven

Can a Saved person who lives in sin enter into the Kingdom of God?

No -
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses 'law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace

Can a Saved person who continually without ceasing to knowingly and willingly obey satan (Jesus enemy) enter into the Kingdom of God?

No -

Matt 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him

 

[cfultz3]

i see and understand, when the Scriptures says a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life, you don't believe that is the lambs book of life, you have to interpret those verses to mean another book right? Because if it was referring to the actual Book of Life where the names of the saints are written in, then you would have to change what you believe, and you do not want to do that.

As i said before, i am not called to try to convince you of the Truth, i told you the Truth, and i gave credit to the one who gave it to me. God told me these things, if you do not believe it, then don't believe it, i am not going to try to convince you of it, that is not my calling, i have done what Jesus requires of me, i have told you the Truth, what you do with it is up to you. i love you, i really do, but it is not my responsibility to MAKE you see the Truth, i have told you what God has told me, i have done what He wanted me to do. i can tell just talking with you, that there is no convincing you otherwise concerning this false doctrine, i bet hundreds of others God has sent to you also to try to get you to see the Truth, so it will not be God's fault when you plead to Him on Judgment Day " I didn't know Lord" When you did know, just you refused to hear the Truth. Those who know the Truth, hear the Truth, they know the Truth when they hear, because it is the same Spirit of Truth that reveals the same Truths to all who will hear it. Those who do not have the Spirit of Truth will not hear the Truth. AGAIN, i am not referring to you or saying anything about you specifically, but that is a general statement which is a True statement.

You have Free will, choose what you want to believe. i will believe the Word of God, which plainly says and teaches a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life. You have to ADD your interpretation to the Book of Life as to not change what you believe, i understand this, again believe what you want, it is not my calling to try to change what you believe, it is my calling to reveal to you the Truth, this i have done. Love you, and may the Lord Jesus Bless you and your family.

^i^

God bless you Dave. Not only in this post but so many more. Welcome.

 

[Abiding]

i do appoligize that you think i am putting you on the spot, i am unaware that you and i were even having a conversation at all. i do not recall ever replying to you or addressing you at all. i do appoligize if you feel that i have in some way put YOU on the spot, that is not, nor ever was my intentions. i merely asked those questions in the event by answering them those who believe OSAS will come to the light and understand that it is not the Truth. Are you saying then that you are one of those people? if so please show me Scriptures that support what you believe, is that a lot to ask for? Seriously would you please answer the questions that i presented to you such as Can a Saved person hate someone and still enter into the Kingdom of God? i mean if once you are Saved, you will always be saved, then it stands to reason that you can also hate someone and still think you are Heaven bound because you believe the OSAS doctrine, yet Scriptures plainly teach those who hate others will not enter into the Kingdom of God, So how can both be True?

Also your comment above OSAS haters. i hope you don't think i am such, i hate nobody at all, but love even as Jesus loved. i will willing die for a person who believes the false doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved just as well as i would die for a person who did not believe that false doctrine. Does it make it easier for you to cope with this Truth, by thinking i am a hater of it? just wandering. i know homosexuals do exactly that, when you try to address the sinfulness of it, they likewise accuse them as being haters. Is this then that same thing?

i meant you no wrong, if you do not believe it then so be it, if you do, then so be it. i love you and mean you no harm, if you want to believe OSAS who am i to try to convince you otherwise? it is not my calling to convince anyone of anything at all. But it is my calling to reveal those things that God has told me to reveal, this i have done. What is it to me if you believe OSAS or what is it to me if you don't believe OSAS. What is important to me, is that i teach what He tells me to teach, and this i have done. i did not mean to offend you in any way, i love you. and until this post i didn't even know what you believed.

Again, sorry if i have offended you in some way, it was not my intentions.

^i^

Oh my...now that you wrote all that. Im sorry for saying OSAS haters...wont do that again.
No im not offended. And I dont stand for OSAS. I do stand for eternal life and know the promises of
God are true. But all Gods promises are conditional.

I also make comments in several threads taking issue with what i believe incorrect when
i believe it is. But when its correct as far as i see i comment on that too. So since ive been
accused of OSAS so often i jumped to conclusions with you. My mistake.

Ill let God deal with the rape victim God may show mercy in these cases. Often people do forgive
but the pain comes back. So they think they hate them when its a matter with coping with the pain
much different than hating without a cause. But thats above my paygrade. I do see your point.

To look at the side ive seen lately of the OSAS doctrine haters. I mean what the sentiment is behind
their issue. Id have to say i agree with them about 80%. If they dropped alot of their proof texts
I may agree 100%.

Anyway sorry it got so long...i cant teach OSAS. But i can teach eternal life is eternal and that
it is also conditional. Our redemption comes from Christs finish work. But its an already not yet thing.
And i believe that a person can go apostate. I also believe God is looking at the heart and wants to save.
Hes not up there waiting for me to blow it so He can send me to hell.

And as far as David? No i think even in the Old Testament salvation was still and always has been
the same.

 

[GreenNnice]

Oh my...now that you wrote all that. Im sorry for saying OSAS haters...wont do that again.
No im not offended. And I dont stand for OSAS. I do stand for eternal life and know the promises of
God are true. But all Gods promises are conditional.

I also make comments in several threads taking issue with what i believe incorrect when
i believe it is. But when its correct as far as i see i comment on that too. So since ive been
accused of OSAS so often i jumped to conclusions with you. My mistake.

Ill let God deal with the rape victim God may show mercy in these cases. Often people do forgive
but the pain comes back. So they think they hate them when its a matter with coping with the pain
much different than hating without a cause. But thats above my paygrade. I do see your point.

To look at the side ive seen lately of the OSAS doctrine haters. I mean what the sentiment is behind
their issue. Id have to say i agree with them about 80%. If they dropped alot of their proof texts
I may agree 100%.

Anyway sorry it got so long...i cant teach OSAS. But i can teach eternal life is eternal and that
it is also conditional. Our redemption comes from Christs finish work. But its an already not yet thing.
And i believe that a person can go apostate. I also believe God is looking at the heart and wants to save.
Hes not up there waiting for me to blow it so He can send me to hell.

And as far as David? No i think even in the Old Testament salvation was still and always has been
the same.

We are justified by grace - unconditional. God gave us His Son, squirrel, this is what kind of Love?

We are justified by faith - again this is unconditional Love, for if had not given us faith to believe, what would happen to us. Our destiny would ALL be in death.

 

[Abiding]

David did all things to please God, except in the case Uriah the Hittite.

I King 15: 5 Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

i can't imagine that, because it is not True. You have to try to understand, Christ is not going to sit on the throne of David until which point He comes back to the Earth to reign over it. The Throne of David is on the Earth, not in Heaven. Jesus right now is in Heaven, in the Temple of God interceding on our behalf and when he is not doing that He is sitting on the right hand of God, sitting on THE Throne of God in Heaven. He is not here on Earth to sit on the Throne of David. He will sit on the Throne of David when He becomes King of Kings here on Earth. This has not yet happened.

Hope this has helped your understanding of the Throne of David, which currently resides in England.

^i^

No..i think thats coming from your eschatological view.

Acts 2:22-36

22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[a] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. 25 David said about him:

“‘I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will rest in hope,
27 because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,
you will not let your holy one see decay.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.’
29 “Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. 32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,

“‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
35 until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”’[c]
36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”

The Kingdom started on the day of Pentecost.

What are you talking about....England?

 

[Abiding]

i see and understand, when the Scriptures says a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life, you don't believe that is the lambs book of life, you have to interpret those verses to mean another book right? Because if it was referring to the actual Book of Life where the names of the saints are written in, then you would have to change what you believe, and you do not want to do that.

As i said before, i am not called to try to convince you of the Truth, i told you the Truth, and i gave credit to the one who gave it to me. God told me these things, if you do not believe it, then don't believe it, i am not going to try to convince you of it, that is not my calling, i have done what Jesus requires of me, i have told you the Truth, what you do with it is up to you. i love you, i really do, but it is not my responsibility to MAKE you see the Truth, i have told you what God has told me, i have done what He wanted me to do. i can tell just talking with you, that there is no convincing you otherwise concerning this false doctrine, i bet hundreds of others God has sent to you also to try to get you to see the Truth, so it will not be God's fault when you plead to Him on Judgment Day " I didn't know Lord" When you did know, just you refused to hear the Truth. Those who know the Truth, hear the Truth, they know the Truth when they hear, because it is the same Spirit of Truth that reveals the same Truths to all who will hear it. Those who do not have the Spirit of Truth will not hear the Truth. AGAIN, i am not referring to you or saying anything about you specifically, but that is a general statement which is a True statement.

You have Free will, choose what you want to believe. i will believe the Word of God, which plainly says and teaches a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life. You have to ADD your interpretation to the Book of Life as to not change what you believe, i understand this, again believe what you want, it is not my calling to try to change what you believe, it is my calling to reveal to you the Truth, this i have done. Love you, and may the Lord Jesus Bless you and your family.

^i^

Wow settle down...Your right you wont convince me of nothing.
But i always hear people out and consider what they say.
But since ive never claimed to believing in OSAS i rekon
theres not much work for you to do on me.

 

[cfultz3]

Love is patient and non-critical, not full of bitterness.

 

[Abiding]

By the way if Christ isnt siting on Davids throne Hes not the Messiah
You may have to go back 2 Sam 7 to see where Peter took that.
Remember Jesus said His kingdom was not of this world.

 

[Abiding]

Love is patient and non-critical, not full of bitterness.

Was that presuming im impatient critical and bitter?
Surely that wasnt just a random declaration.