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cfultz3
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I yet gave words of encouragement to the one speaking Truth. And they spoke Truth to all.
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Abiding
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No you just deflected again. I made any apologies necessary to have peace and respect
one for another and you didnt respond.
And no, "they" didnt speak truth to all...in fact where you came out with your jab.
A man just got done saying....God himself audibly taught him that He didnt know
everything and provided a paper explaining how it was the truth biblically.
But i did consider my manners, and will work on them more, prayerfully.
John 5:44
How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
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GreenNnice
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How naive will you choose to be, squirrel?
I pointed out ONE bitter thing you said, be thankful cee is not doing it. So, he said it, the Truth hurts. So does this truth.
Over simple things DiscipleDan said, you chose to be antisocially acting. What's that, green? Coming off as saying something nice but really not saying anything nice AT ALL.
I can provide numerous examples of DD's posts, lol, he wasn't even talking to you and YOU took offense. He told you, that FACT TOO. Cee don't believe your OSAS/Calvinism (T.U.L.I.P) doctrine so, in regards of not liking your posts...Of course not 'like', you don't speak same 'language' cee speaks. So....again, be nice, in spite of not liking each others beliefs we will honor God by speaking in Love, and, saying your says convincingly WITH Truth, with little to none 'outside' language needing be present. Fair enough?
God bless ya, squirrel
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How naive will you choose to be, squirrel?
I pointed out ONE bitter thing you said, be thankful cee is not doing it. So, he said it, the Truth hurts. So does this truth.
Over simple things DiscipleDan said, you chose to be antisocially acting. What's that, green? Coming off as saying something nice but really not saying anything nice AT ALL.
I can provide numerous examples of DD's posts, lol, he wasn't even talking to you and YOU took offense. He told you, that FACT TOO. Cee don't believe your OSAS/Calvinism (T.U.L.I.P) doctrine so, in regards of not liking your posts...Of course not 'like', you don't speak same 'language' cee speaks. So....again, be nice, in spite of not liking each others beliefs we will honor God by speaking in Love, and, saying your says convincingly WITH Truth, with little to none 'outside' language needing be present. Fair enough?
God bless ya, squirrel
If i apologised to Dan immediately after we talked and you and cee jump in later
how am i naive? Im not an osas/calvinist (tulip) etc. Is this how you want it?
disagree at all with any in your group and all jump in? Fine. Your their agent? Ok.
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GreenNnice
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Forgive my classification of you, squirrel, just saying to live in Love. His
Now, that does not mean you can't brilliantly argue with your wisdom, which , OK, isn't calvinism, isn't OSAS (Lordship Salvation?), doesn't matter, point is your theology.is not cee's, so, he likely won't like many your posts, certainly, not the 'Trust in Jesus' only needed malarkey for letting Spirit lead. Salvation was work for Adam and Eve, and, though, yes, the Cross, blessedly changed things, eternally, we still ARE to work, Gid didn't die so we could just ABUSE His free gift and say, 'God can't be unfaithful, I believe, I'm saved' malarkey. There is MORE to that grace , and, isn't that a 'bondage' way of viewing God's grace? that DOES fully justify you for Heaven. Making sense, cee has diversely different view than you, doesn't he? You're not naive, you read cee's posts and outspoken theology response for His threads ?
Common sense understanding now for you for why cee not 'like' clicking your posts, common sense even for a squirrel
Anyway, nuthoarder, the Lord leads, but cee would say same things I just said, wouldn't't you, cee , minus the typos, and 'green' extraneous thought?
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GreenNnice;821252 [/b said:cee would say same things I just said, wouldn't't you, cee , minus the typos, [CODE text= strink out] and 'green' extraneous thought?[/code]
......could not resist
Yes brother, exactely. Birds of the same feather flocks together.
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Abiding
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Forgive my classification of you, squirrel, just saying to live in Love. His
Now, that does not mean you can't brilliantly argue with your wisdom, which , OK, isn't calvinism, isn't OSAS (Lordship Salvation?), doesn't matter, point is your theology.is not cee's, so, he likely won't like many your posts, certainly, not the 'Trust in Jesus' only needed malarkey for letting Spirit lead. Salvation was work for Adam and Eve, and, though, yes, the Cross, blessedly changed things, eternally, we still ARE to work, Gid didn't die so we could just ABUSE His free gift and say, 'God can't be unfaithful, I believe, I'm saved' malarkey. There is MORE to that grace , and, isn't that a 'bondage' way of viewing God's grace? that DOES fully justify you for Heaven. Making sense, cee has diversely different view than you, doesn't he? You're not naive, you read cee's posts and outspoken theology response for His threads ?
Common sense understanding now for you for why cee not 'like' clicking your posts, common sense even for a squirrel
Anyway, nuthoarder, the Lord leads, but cee would say same things I just said, wouldn't't you, cee , minus the typos, and 'green' extraneous thought?
No you only prefer to say i disagree with you, which i dont. Ive never said grace is all we need,
nor have i said that there isnt more than just getting saved. Ive contended with some scripture
interpretations. And thats the rub i spose.
And ive contended with claims to always be led by the spirit, justifying all that is said.
Do i disagree with the sentiment that says we cant get saved and then just do nothing, like
following the Lord. abiding in Him and obeying Him? No i agree with that...So in essence ive agreed
with nearly all youve said. But that isnt enough. You surely know me more than i do. Youd think
i would know if was a calvinist or that i believe in OSAS. Wouldnt ya...well surprise surprise.
Green it would help me if you didnt insert things into what people say...for instance if someone
says trust in Christ.....and you say thats not good enuf...what you mean is that there is obedience
and such...while to me that IS trusting in Christ. Without obedience there is no trust.
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Forgive me, squirrel, you've agreed with tribrts, agreed with eg, what am Ibsupposevto think?
I can think, can't I?
Anyway, I've got to go, you are a wise squirrel, I pray then you come to FULLY understand all that grace is. It is such a great word given us by God, but don't forget the righteousness of faith and the justication of salvation regarding it for us to experience that joy, that rest on earth, not just Heaven.
The Lord leads, again, squirrel, And, yes, I know, I can be quite rough on your little fur feathers and others but we I pray , in my deep-down thoughts He gives me, that we can be going the same place though se skillfully, seemingly disagree on many points. Again, it is He who 'skills' me if anything I ever say is skill full, Ttyl, squirrelfrirnd
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And, regarding 'obeying Christ,' I pretty sure that what you mainly said in 'My rest' thread....
brilliant thought !
Just add 'His presence' and what you say becomes even more so light. Blinding even
Give all glory to God, our shining Saviour !
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i think it would probably be best not to say such things like that, it is not conducive to a positive response from those who hear it, it is a statement that causes strife, which a Christian is not to do. Statements like OSAS haters, only causes people to get defensive when they feel they are being accused of that. Your teaching and understanding is better relayed to somone who is open to you, but if they are on the defensive with you, they will not be open to you. Just a suggestion try to stay away from things that cause people to get upset or puts them on the defensive, but in love, try to be kind to others, gentle, able to teach. It is almost impossible to teach one who is being defensive.
Then i do indeed owe you an apology, i have been teaching OSAS is not Scriptural and i was under the impression you adamantly disagreed with that. i am sorry that i misunderstood you. If then you do not agree with OSAS then we are on the same page and understand the same Truth. i also believe in Eternal life. Right now if i were to be killed, i know without a doubt that i am Heaven bound. i 100% know that if Christ were to come back right this second that i would be taken up with Him. What i don't know is, if God decided to test me like He allowed satan to test Job, that i would handle it the same way that Job did. i would like to think i would handle it just as Job did, but until it happens to me for real, i know not how i will respond. i know from past experience though, that when i got a boil on my butt, i was praying to God "Why me Lord?" how i will respond if i had boils all over my body lost all my family, and became homeless, well i just don't know what i would think.
The question is, why do so many people think you are are OSAS? if it were just one person who made that mistake, that's understandable, but if many people are making that mistake, then it stands to reason that you are saying things in your posts that would lead a person to believe that you do believe OSAS. There is nothing wrong with taking issue with what you believe is incorrect or correct. That is what these message boards are for, not to mention what a True Christian is suppose to do. America is in the condition that it is in, partly because Christians say nothing at all, when they should have spoke up when they disagreed. i commend you for speaking up when you disagree with what is written, even to disagree with what i myself write. It is written several times in the Word of God to be of one mind to think the same things. The very first step in order for all to come to an agreement, is to realize there is a disagreement. There are over 120 different denomination, all of which came about because people disagreed on a particular subject, instead of dividing (which satan loves to do) they should have talked about their disagreements, look to the Scriptures for answers, prayed about it, until which time they would all come to an agreement on a particular issue, so that they will continue to abide in Jesus by having one mind, and not be divided.
To say it in a more nice way, you might have said "To look at the side ive seen lately from those who believe the OSAS doctrine." This would not put those who actually believed in the OSAS doctrine on the defensive stance. Truly when you say OSAS doctrine haters, you are attacking them, accusing them of being haters. i thought you said above that you won't do that again, that is say OSAS haters?
Then we are in agreement, praise the Lord Jesus Christ. division is not of God, What you say is absolutely True.
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Under the Old Covenant, they did not believe that Jesus was the Son of God, Jesus was not yet born to be a sacrifice for their sins. Under the Old Testament a person was Saved by obedience to the Laws of Moses. If they committed sin, they did not ask the Father in Heaven for forgiveness, they merely sacrificed a particular animal for particular sins, that is how they were forgiven of their sins prior to Jesus Christ. Now, under a New Covenant, we are Saved through belief in Jesus Christ, believe that He is the Son of God, that He died for us and was resurrected back to life. Jesus Christ is what Saves us. David did not know Jesus Christ. David was not Saved though Jesus Christ. David was Saved because obeyed the Law, all of them. He did all things to please God. David hated his enemies, yes? Under the New Covenant we are not to hate our enemies even as David did. David hating his enemies and desiring that God destroys them, was not evil nor wicked under the Old Covenant. Jesus made it wicked in the New Covenant.
Old Testament Salvation came by obedience to the Laws of Moses
New Testament Salvation comes by believing and abiding in Jesus Christ.
Two different Salvation, because it is two different covenants.
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GreenNnice
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A very well said post, Christ peeps, the Lord leads, let Him teach you ALL Truth, bring everything in prayer for Him, be led by Him. But, yes, DD speaks from Him, great powerful words, said unmistakably in Love, spoken Truth.
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Abiding
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I already told you. Ive said before i wont take a stand on OSAS. Ive said it in a few threads.
Why? because noone will define it. Its defined as a reason to sin and other stuff and it gets
to be a mess.
The reason folks have put me in that slot. Is because i take issue with their proof texts.
For instance the parables are used literally which isnt good to do with parables. Theres little
understanding of the book of Hebrews. And 1 John is taken out of context...etc..etc.
With you i admit i was jumpy. But thankfully you set me back to some manners.
But the issue that was in my head the most was your claim to be talked to by God
and what He told you was incorrect. So thats that.
I hope all will understand that its hard for anyone to look at the bible and not
read into it. If anyone denies that, they are in trouble. So it may happen with any
doctrine people disagree on. But it doesnt hurt for both sides to make their case and
each side can possibly learn. Both sides usually cant be right.
But with this particular issue. Things have flown to fast....scriptures has been lightly passed over
with alot of emotions and personal back and forth..ive seen people corrected and know and admit they
were and the next day forget and reuse the old arguement.
Im sure there wont be an agreement on this issue.....Im in it to watch the scriptural
interpreting the most. I enjoy that. And yes there is a hate for OSAS and there has been
alot of emotion over it. I myself dont think there will be any lost souls over it.
If a person wants to be disobedient they will find some excuse...the word makes that clear.
If i said the knowledge came from me, then it would be a lie. i have to give credit to whom gave it to me. He tells me something, then i tell you what He said. If then you think what He has told me is incorrect then please inform me exactly what was said that you think is incorrect. If i know not what you disagree with that He told me, then i can not show you Scriptures that back up what He has told me. For nothing He has ever told me has contradicted any verse in Scriptures. However many things He has told me contradicted what i use to believe to be the truth. Many of the false doctrines that is being taught today i use to 100% believe, until He told me otherwise, and Scriptures back up what He has told me.
There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with what i have said, but if i know not what it was that i said that you disagree with, how can i show you relevant Scriptures that support what i have said? Tell me therefore, what it was that i said that you disagree with, that i may be able respond. For of a Truth, if what He is telling me is wrong, or not correct, then it is an evil spirit telling me these things. So it is important to test the spirits to see if they are good or evil. So tell me what it is that i said that you disagree with so we can see if Scriptures supports what i said or does not support what i said. Thank you and look forward to your response.
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We can start here:
Originally Posted by DiscipleDave
i disagree with this statement, if it were true then there would be no need for a Judgement Day to determine where everyone is going, He would already know this. Read the story of Abraham sacrificing his son, God did it TO SEE WHAT HE WOULD DO, it was a test, God tested Him because He did not know the outcome of it, He gives us free choice, that is why God is either pleased with our choices or displeased. If He already knows what our choices would be, then He would not be displeased if we did what He already knew we were going to do. i explain this much better in my article "Does God Know Everything" ironically it was God who revealed this to me.
before i am bombarded by responses to this particular post please first read Does God Know Everything before responding, because all the Scriptural references are in the article.
If i come into a room where a vase is broke and ask the grandchild hey little feller who broke that vase.
Does this mean i dont know? anthropomorphisms are used in the bible. There is no way God can learn.
There are too many scriptures that tell us He planned the world before it began. Even the saved were written
in a book before creation. Did God tell you this...or was it your own understanding.
As far a asos im not too motivated to deal with that. Although i disagreed with much of your logic in that paper
since it had some incomplete scenarios and presumptions from scripture references. The brief statements you claim
came from Gods voice to you i have no objection to. Its more the way you dealt with it.
Originally Posted by DiscipleDave
i disagree with this statement, if it were true then there would be no need for a Judgement Day to determine where everyone is going, He would already know this. Read the story of Abraham sacrificing his son, God did it TO SEE WHAT HE WOULD DO, it was a test, God tested Him because He did not know the outcome of it, He gives us free choice, that is why God is either pleased with our choices or displeased. If He already knows what our choices would be, then He would not be displeased if we did what He already knew we were going to do. i explain this much better in my article "Does God Know Everything" ironically it was God who revealed this to me.
before i am bombarded by responses to this particular post please first read Does God Know Everything before responding, because all the Scriptural references are in the article.
If i come into a room where a vase is broke and ask the grandchild hey little feller who broke that vase.
Does this mean i dont know? anthropomorphisms are used in the bible. There is no way God can learn.
There are too many scriptures that tell us He planned the world before it began. Even the saved were written
in a book before creation. Did God tell you this...or was it your own understanding.
As far a asos im not too motivated to deal with that. Although i disagreed with much of your logic in that paper
since it had some incomplete scenarios and presumptions from scripture references. The brief statements you claim
came from Gods voice to you i have no objection to. Its more the way you dealt with it.
what i have told you, is what God has told me. Let me die a horrible painful long suffering death if i am lying, and not only that let my mother suffer the same fate if i am lying. What i have told you, He told me, you can either believe it or not believe it, the choice is yours to make. But in discussing anthropomorphisms consider yourself if this is one in the Scriptures.
Genesis22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for NOW I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
Do you believe the Word of God, when God said "NOW i know" or do you believe something contrary to sound doctrine? For me, i will believe what God told me, and Scriptures back it up. God also wanted to destroy all the people for worshiping the calf that they made, but Moses talked Him out of it. God repents several times in the Word of God. Should i then believe man and what they teach or believe what God teaches? i choose to believe what God has told me, and His Word supports what He told me.
You have the right to believe as you will. But can you take a little advise? if you are going to accuse someone of making incomplete scenarios and presumptions would it not be a Godly thing to list those incomplete scenarios and presumptions if you are going to accuse someone of it? i would like to very much correct any incomplete scenarios and presumptions in the articles, but how can i fix them or correct them if you merely accuse me of doing this, without telling me what they are. i am asking you then to tell me what those incomplete scenarios and presumptions are so that i may correct them OK?
Again, tell me how i dealt with it that you disagreed with, so that i may deal with it another way that you will approve of. i have no problem with changing how i deal with something, but if i know not what it is that i am doing wrong in your eyes, how can i correct it? Tell me then how did i deal with it that you disapproved of?
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DiscipleDave, id love to talk this over with you.
First id like to say again im sorry for my manners i guess youd call them
Because it seems again already ive managed to make this bigger than
just a discussion....how can i remedy that and make pleasant exchanges?
Also i heard a few days ago that people can have a private forum.
I can keep it in here...but it seems now to me that i have personally
hmmm what to call it. Not sure but it seems ive nearly(but not really) slandered you
by accident and do not want to continue that in public. Or have you think
im against you personally. How to proceed?
First id like to say again im sorry for my manners i guess youd call them
Because it seems again already ive managed to make this bigger than
just a discussion....how can i remedy that and make pleasant exchanges?
Also i heard a few days ago that people can have a private forum.
I can keep it in here...but it seems now to me that i have personally
hmmm what to call it. Not sure but it seems ive nearly(but not really) slandered you
by accident and do not want to continue that in public. Or have you think
im against you personally. How to proceed?
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Dave I read your article on ...does God know everything! God does not know everything, God does not know when we will sin, and HE DOES NOT KNOW SINNERS. Matthew 7. Go away, I HAVE NEVER KNOWN YOU.
But God KNOWS HI CHILDREN AND THEIR DOINGS... About righteousness and the righteous people GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING!
Let me explain how this works.... God's children is perfect, and ALL PERFECT people does EXACTLY AS GOD WOULD HAVE IF HE WAS THAT PERSON... Jesus was the first to show us how we would act, and what we would be. And sinners, does God know what they do? Yes, that is why the Holy Spirit reprove them of what they had DONE! God had no input, on what they did! But His Spirit will reprove them of sin. Once they KNOW their wrong ways AND HEAR GOD, they might change their minds. This is the beginning of LISTENING TO THE HOLY SPIRIT... Repentance will be the advice from the Spirit. Then the Spirit reprove them of righteousness,,, To show them what God wants them to do, and once they know this, the Spirit will reprove them of JUDGMENT!
The peoplethat knows how to JUDGE is the once that God knows, and they know God, and they are righteouss, and ONLY DO RIGHTEOUSS... Thesea are once that CANNOT be tested, CANNOT be tempted, CANNOT sin, CANNOT stumble, and they CANNOT JUDGE WRONGFULLY, They are PERFECT! And they WILL ALWAYS BE PRFECT AND PLEASING TO GOD... Jesus says He present them a perfect church, without spot or blemish. NOPE! They are truly Holy as GOD is holy.
Can this person FALL away? Can God fall away from Himself? Could Jesus FALL away? Who will FALL AWAY...From what? Jesus said before He comes there will be...
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
I beleive the FALSE CHRISTIANS, will FALL AWAY from there fake holiness, and the man of sin, the son of perdition, the FALSE CHURCH that has always been seeing themselves greater than God, filling all the pulpits, that was meant for holy preachers but filled with sinning preachers, and they will be revealed....
This son of perdtion, the false church, is not the KNOWN SON, the TRUE CHURCH. God knows NOTHING about the false church, not even the members, but the TRUE CHURCH HE LOVES AND KEEPS PERFECTLY! And the two has NO COMMON GROUND! The one is known by God, the other by SATAN. The one will end up with God, the other with SATAN.
One is white, one is black. God does not know BLACK, He does not have too! If God would enter the darkness, there will be no darkness... He is light, and the light CASTETH out the darkness.
The people that walketh in the light WALK AS HE WALK. and the DARKNESS people HATETH THE light. Because God BEAR this evil for a time, just shows how much chances God gives the darkness to come to the light, and have the darkness removed.
God has NOTHING to do with evil, He set a process in lace to COMPLETELY destroy evil for those that wants it destroyd... Even while they are here on earth, they might wirness evil, but they will have NO PART with it. This is the verse that says it all....
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
The predestined are known of God even before the earth was made, and the lost, God knoweth not, because they KNOWETH NOT HIM! They chose not to know Him.
But God KNOWS HI CHILDREN AND THEIR DOINGS... About righteousness and the righteous people GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING!
Let me explain how this works.... God's children is perfect, and ALL PERFECT people does EXACTLY AS GOD WOULD HAVE IF HE WAS THAT PERSON... Jesus was the first to show us how we would act, and what we would be. And sinners, does God know what they do? Yes, that is why the Holy Spirit reprove them of what they had DONE! God had no input, on what they did! But His Spirit will reprove them of sin. Once they KNOW their wrong ways AND HEAR GOD, they might change their minds. This is the beginning of LISTENING TO THE HOLY SPIRIT... Repentance will be the advice from the Spirit. Then the Spirit reprove them of righteousness,,, To show them what God wants them to do, and once they know this, the Spirit will reprove them of JUDGMENT!
The peoplethat knows how to JUDGE is the once that God knows, and they know God, and they are righteouss, and ONLY DO RIGHTEOUSS... Thesea are once that CANNOT be tested, CANNOT be tempted, CANNOT sin, CANNOT stumble, and they CANNOT JUDGE WRONGFULLY, They are PERFECT! And they WILL ALWAYS BE PRFECT AND PLEASING TO GOD... Jesus says He present them a perfect church, without spot or blemish. NOPE! They are truly Holy as GOD is holy.
Can this person FALL away? Can God fall away from Himself? Could Jesus FALL away? Who will FALL AWAY...From what? Jesus said before He comes there will be...
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
I beleive the FALSE CHRISTIANS, will FALL AWAY from there fake holiness, and the man of sin, the son of perdition, the FALSE CHURCH that has always been seeing themselves greater than God, filling all the pulpits, that was meant for holy preachers but filled with sinning preachers, and they will be revealed....
This son of perdtion, the false church, is not the KNOWN SON, the TRUE CHURCH. God knows NOTHING about the false church, not even the members, but the TRUE CHURCH HE LOVES AND KEEPS PERFECTLY! And the two has NO COMMON GROUND! The one is known by God, the other by SATAN. The one will end up with God, the other with SATAN.
One is white, one is black. God does not know BLACK, He does not have too! If God would enter the darkness, there will be no darkness... He is light, and the light CASTETH out the darkness.
The people that walketh in the light WALK AS HE WALK. and the DARKNESS people HATETH THE light. Because God BEAR this evil for a time, just shows how much chances God gives the darkness to come to the light, and have the darkness removed.
God has NOTHING to do with evil, He set a process in lace to COMPLETELY destroy evil for those that wants it destroyd... Even while they are here on earth, they might wirness evil, but they will have NO PART with it. This is the verse that says it all....
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
The predestined are known of God even before the earth was made, and the lost, God knoweth not, because they KNOWETH NOT HIM! They chose not to know Him.
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God hasn't "told" you anything.
If you claim the Throne of David is in England, you're in error.
And claiming God told it to you.
Which makes you a false teacher, and dangerous.
Others may approve your message, or obfuscate. I will not.
THE ORIGIN OF BRITISH ISRAELISM
*THE ORIGIN OF BRITISH ISRAELISM
To claim God is not Omniscient is another heresy.
He asked, Adam: where are you? He wanted Adam to come forward.
"Who told you you were naked? He wanted Adam to confess.
Did you eat of the tree i commanded you not to eat of? He wanted Adam to seek forgiveness, confess.
Cain where is your brother? What have you done? - Again - the teaching of CONFESSION OF SINS.
Not limited knowledge!
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You have free will you can choose to believe as you want to
i never once said God told me that the Throne of David is in England, That is something that i know is True, not something that God has told me is True, but i will be sure to ask Him when the next time He talks with me (yes i am being serious). Jesus is sitting on the Spiritual Throne of David, this is True, but the physical Throne of David is still on the Earth. For more information about the physical Throne of David being in England please click HERE.
i am not teaching anyone that the Throne of David is in England, i merely made a comment that it was. This is not what i teach, nor am i even concerned about such things. It is trivial to me, if the physical Throne of David is in England or elsewhere, what is that to me? What i do teach is what He tells me to teach, that is to LOVE ONE ANOTHER and to cease from obeying His enemy the devil. What i teach Which things He has told me, can be found on my website, and in all of the website there is not even one reference to the Throne of David being in England, because that is not what i teach to anyone at all, only something i believe and made a comment on.
as i said before you entitled to your own opinion, and may believe as you will. Those who believe what i teach, believe what Jesus has told me.
Do you believe the Word of God, i know you do:
Genesis22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
Tell me, do you agree with the above verse? Did God already KNOW that Abraham would have killed his only son, or is the Scriptures True and only when God seen that He was going to kill him, then God said "NOW I know"
Because of freewill God does not know what choice we will make, that is why He is pleased when we make the right ones, and displeased when we make the wrong ones. But God does the outcome of each choice that we make.
For example when you come to a Y in the road. satan is tempting you to go one way, while the Holy Spirit is telling you to go the other way. God does not know the choice that you will choose, that is why He tests us. Granted He knows what will happen to you if you go right, and He knows what will happen to you if you go left. But He does not know the choice that you will make, whether you will obey satan or the Spirit.
If God knew Everything, there would be no need for Him to Judge us on Judgement Day. Please read my article for more information on this.
He asked Adam Where are you? to see if Adam would come forward. IF He already knew that Adam would come forward there would be no need for Him to ask him. All these questions were to test Adam, to see how he would respond to them, if he would come forward, if he would admit his wrong, if he would confess. When God asked Cain where is your brother, God already knew where his brother was and what he had done, so why ask the question if He already knew the answer? To see if Cain would confess where he was at, to see if he would do the right thing, but he didn't do the right thing, he failed the testing of Jesus.
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