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Abiding

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#103
twofeet said:
I will try my best to explain in terms that are understandable.

Firstly, Jesus IS the word in its fullest. When Jesus quoted those scriptures at Satan He wasnt just pulling words out of a book, He had FULL understanding of the depth and power of each of those words. In Jeremiah 33 v 3 it says " Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know. The bible itself is the starting point of understanding of who God is and what our relationship with Him is about but when you combine that with Jesus, who is the Word, in a personal day by day relationship it becomes a lot deeper.

As for explaining being close to the Lord.......its prayer, seeking Him, till you know He is with you, talking with you. That comes from submission, a hunger for righteousness, allowing Him to daily search you, convict you, and a willing obedient heart to do what it takes to stay connected to Him without the world getting in the way.
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Ok now i get it. You learn the word. Then pray seeking Him. And talk to Him throughout the day.
And do what it takes to not let anything get between you and the Lord(submitting)
And then you will know inside you what is wrong doing this...i see. thanks for explaining :)
 
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gotime

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Here is a verse of scripture that I use when I feel like I am getting frustrated for whatever reason. I just repeat it in my head:

Isa 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.
Isa 26:4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:

I find it draws my mind to the power and strength of Jesus. Thus my faith in him rises and perfect peace comes.
 
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Abiding

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#105
#105
gotime said:
Here is a verse of scripture that I use when I feel like I am getting frustrated for whatever reason. I just repeat it in my head:

Isa 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.
Isa 26:4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:

I find it draws my mind to the power and strength of Jesus. Thus my faith in him rises and perfect peace comes.
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Isa 26:3 was my first memory verse...it surely works :)
Memorizing verses really helped me
 
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twofeet

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Abiding said:
Ok now i get it. You learn the word. Then pray seeking Him. And talk to Him throughout the day.
And do what it takes to not let anything get between you and the Lord(submitting)
And then you will know inside you what is wrong doing this...i see. thanks for explaining :)
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mmmm.......nearly.....you missed the bit where the Lord talks to you....2 way conversation :)
 
Jon4TheCross

Jon4TheCross

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Abiding said:
SIN


Any testimonies of how people deal with sin to
not be casual about it?

Theres been enuf talk about how Christians dont sin
But since that isnt true. What seems to work so that
your just not saying your sorry and go on willy nilly?
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I didn't have enough time to read all of the pages, but I know that holy flesh is possible, even for us, and only through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The way I see it, there is two of each of us until we are completely perfected. There is the holy spirit by measure (new creature), and there is the evil spirit by measure (old creature). One will never die, and the other will never live. The holy spirit by measure does not sin, and everything else is dead or dying, right? So we just need to live according to the Spirit. To really do this a person must have the faith of a child (an hour is 83.333333 years), and realize we are not male nor female, and realize that we don't have our own family (except in the flesh perspective). The more we talk, live, etc, with the understanding that we are spirits, then the more this stuff and nonsense loses importance. The more we are after the Spirit, the more people get help.

I love you all.

1Jn 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
 
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BarlyGurl

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#109
Abiding said:
Isnt it sweet Gramps? He only expects us to succeed with Him.
Paul said in his flesh dwelleth no good thing...Jesus said without
Him we can do nothing.

Nope i found out too there is no residual..each day we are dependants
and If He doesnt give it to us we wont have it. Thats why your sooo
right about prayer...and thats why i think Jesus freaked and kicked rears
and said "this is a house of prayer" gives His opinion on the importance of prayer.
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Umm... I thought he freaked because capitalists were taking advantage of people of faith and doing commerce in a place of worship????? :confused:
 
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Jordache

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#110
Well, I'll start by saying sin sucks. Actually sin is fun or else we wouldn't do it, but the consequences suck!
I will share a story to illustrate how I've dealt with sin. I am a leader at my church and this am subject to church discipline. While some of the details only apply to a person in leadership, the overall process should be the same.
I found myself in a situation that became something other than why I expected it to be. While I knew I was sinning, it took very little of this sin for me to throw in the towel so to speak. Shame overwhelmed me from the very beginning, and shame also made it worse. I knew all the while that this was not who i wanted to be. I knew that I wanted to be righteous and honor God, but early on I felt like it didn't really market war happened from that point on. The next day I texted my leader and told him. I was utterly humiliating. First, I didn't want to be talking to any man about it. Second, it was like talking to my father and I couldn't stand the disappointment I caused. I then had to tell the senior pastor. The fun part was I had to tell him in person and his first response was that he was disappointed. I knew I was wrong. No one needed to tell me. I knew there were things that I needed to work on. So the first thing I did was think logically about how I fell into that particular sin. Then I had to determine wht particularly I needed to work on and create myself a map. I determined the specifics and considered a person it would be good to work with.
A few days later I met with my pastors. I could have hid in the corner or thrown up. We talked about what I needed to do for my own healing, and determined a plan. Then my punishment was doled out. God was very merciful. I immediately drew the boundaries suggested by my pastors, and sought out what they requested of me. On my own I have processing through a few books and in personal prayer with my accountability partner.
I am not proud of what I did. But I am proud of how I handled it. I knew that I wanted to be righteous before God. I knew I was called as a leader and I didn't want to be on stage having not confessed. I knew that above all I wanted to honor God in my repentance even if I had not honored Him in my sin.
1. I chose to honor God and deal righteously with my sin.
2. I confessed it to my authority even when it was terrifying. I chose to believe God would work through it.
3. I determined why I had sinned and way exactly I needed to work on.
4. I made a plan for healing.
5. I humbly accepted the consequences (from my leaders) for my sin.
6. I have accepted all of other consquences also. -Loss of friendship -people wondering/question/assuming why I'm not on stage
7. I have followed through with all that was asked of me by my leaders
 
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Abiding

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#111
BarlyGurl said:
Umm... I thought he freaked because capitalists were taking advantage of people of faith and doing commerce in a place of worship????? :confused:
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that was a test to see if anyone was paying attention...and you won
way to go you did it again. Prize:
 
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cfultz3

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#113
Abiding said:
that was a test to see if anyone was paying attention...and you won
way to go you did it again. Prize:
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For real!!!!! Now that would be something I would like to have. Perhaps, it could be shared? Licking lips
 
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Abiding

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#114
#114
Jordache said:
Well, I'll start by saying sin sucks. Actually sin is fun or else we wouldn't do it, but the consequences suck!
I will share a story to illustrate how I've dealt with sin. I am a leader at my church and this am subject to church discipline. While some of the details only apply to a person in leadership, the overall process should be the same.
I found myself in a situation that became something other than why I expected it to be. While I knew I was sinning, it took very little of this sin for me to throw in the towel so to speak. Shame overwhelmed me from the very beginning, and shame also made it worse. I knew all the while that this was not who i wanted to be. I knew that I wanted to be righteous and honor God, but early on I felt like it didn't really market war happened from that point on. The next day I texted my leader and told him. I was utterly humiliating. First, I didn't want to be talking to any man about it. Second, it was like talking to my father and I couldn't stand the disappointment I caused. I then had to tell the senior pastor. The fun part was I had to tell him in person and his first response was that he was disappointed. I knew I was wrong. No one needed to tell me. I knew there were things that I needed to work on. So the first thing I did was think logically about how I fell into that particular sin. Then I had to determine wht particularly I needed to work on and create myself a map. I determined the specifics and considered a person it would be good to work with.
A few days later I met with my pastors. I could have hid in the corner or thrown up. We talked about what I needed to do for my own healing, and determined a plan. Then my punishment was doled out. God was very merciful. I immediately drew the boundaries suggested by my pastors, and sought out what they requested of me. On my own I have processing through a few books and in personal prayer with my accountability partner.
I am not proud of what I did. But I am proud of how I handled it. I knew that I wanted to be righteous before God. I knew I was called as a leader and I didn't want to be on stage having not confessed. I knew that above all I wanted to honor God in my repentance even if I had not honored Him in my sin.
1. I chose to honor God and deal righteously with my sin.
2. I confessed it to my authority even when it was terrifying. I chose to believe God would work through it.
3. I determined why I had sinned and way exactly I needed to work on.
4. I made a plan for healing.
5. I humbly accepted the consequences (from my leaders) for my sin.
6. I have accepted all of other consquences also. -Loss of friendship -people wondering/question/assuming why I'm not on stage
7. I have followed through with all that was asked of me by my leaders
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Wow ty for sharing that. That was truly the best system ive heard lately
to put sin down and move past it. :)
 
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unclefester

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Jordache;[SIZE=2 said:
I knew that above all I wanted to honor God in my repentance even if I had not honored Him in my sin. [/size]
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I like this Jordache. I recall reading a piece years ago when I was first feeling convicted. It was a tale of a man that wanted God's forgiveness but he was instructed that he must first lay himself publicly in the town square pigpen where all could see. Naturally, the thought and humiliation wasn't very appealing and so he refused. Weeks later, the man could no longer bear the weight of guilt for his transgressions and he finally came to God and said : I am ready to do as you say Lord. I will lay myself down amongst the slop. As he walked towards his task, the Lord stopped him and said : My son ... I do not require you to lay amongst the slop. It was only required of you that you would be willing. God exalts the humble ....and God forgives us when our hearts are sincere :)

PSALM 51:17
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.
 
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BarlyGurl

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#116
Abiding said:
that was a test to see if anyone was paying attention...and you won
way to go you did it again. Prize:
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I like winning!!!! But yer spose ta be my friend... can I trade in the plate full of calories for a bucket of cash????:D
 
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plussizedstickbug

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#117
What happens when I sin.
Regret it.
Apologize to the Lord.
Wish I have nit done it and if I can make right what I said or did.
Apologize to the person if it was something I should not have done to them.
Ask the Lord what it is that I am not understanding of what it is in the hidden underlying nature in me that is wrong the way I need to change.
I ask this when I keep repeating the same thing over and over.
I ask what causes me to feel or act like this the core stemming reason.
Some times it helps just to know what emotion the action stems from so I can see its outlet it come from.
This way I can be on guard for those things that trigger my bad response to them.
The natural senses of emotions even mistaking paranoia for fear which is it definitely not but suspicion instead with no facts to base it only conceived imaginations or judgments with out evidence to ground it.
I have come to find out in my own self that the old nature and natural person is not seen nor understood by us in any godly understanding.
I have had to come to over time make sure I understand this natural body I live in and how it actually reacts and works.
I ask in prayer for help to see my self and know it for what it is.
Then I search for its reprovement to define it in the scriptures.
I find a lot of help to now why people do the things they do by the examples of them and their lives mistakes and good things in the scriptures.
I can see where they made mistakes before they fell in them and what reason in them that caused them to fall.

I do not have to problem with the real obvious outward things like drugs drinking sexual things mine are more hidden and deeper in mind perception and heart emotions.
I have come to find out that the heart is ever deceiving it can make us feel like it is right and we have the right to handle a situation or person a certain way.
I had a problem and still do with the diversity of individuality and separate lives lived understanding why others feel the way they do.
What was causing them to react the way they did or do.
All I was seeing was the actions not the reason the cause of it.

There is no way in a body that continually goes through life changing events and environments changing. To even age shifts like child to adolescent adult to elderly that we can finished in our beginning.
By finished I mean completely fully equipped with all we need to understand and have that with perfect skill of practicing to perfection.

I know this is not about condemnation but about growing and coming to see things and understand them for our selves and others.
If we can understand our selves then we can have that understanding for others and see ourselves as them like us as our own self.

Sometimes I have seen in a person that the family struggled with for over 20 years to cope with in the end it was nothing more than their fear.
They feared being alone being abandoned and we would have never thought they would have ever thought such as that.
Because we would have never done that to them.
Yet that was a deep seated fear of them and I never felt so sorry for some one as I did them to see that how that had tormented them with worry and fear.

The whole time they were being so possessive and mentally abusing of others that came around it was over the fear of not having us there.
No matter what we did or how long we were there it remained until the end then we saw it for what it was.

I have seen it in me having something like that there and not seeing it in my own self.

That is why we need to Lord to help guide us give us insight through his words and show us patience and long suffer with us and then show us how much he loves others.
How he makes sure there is a way and a means to be there for us all.

I think learning about sin is nice to know and have that understanding it helps us so we see it for what it really is and how we get deceived by it.
So we can have some good in us to show understanding to others in the same boat we were in.
Seems like the sting being gone of the fear of condemnation and loss of salvation over a sin we mess up and say of do, gives us the chance to learn from it our mistakes with out utter despair and hopelessness.

I got off on the wrong foot early in life in a holiness pentecostal church that really put all on emotions and outward wearing of holiness.
Which distracts from our inward man that needs this more than our cutting of our hair or wearing pants.

This is life so long as we live experience and every day has a new one awaiting it.
The Lord is forgiving and understanding and he is our help guide and counsel and great comfort he is.
We are so very fortunate to have him I am so glad he wanted us even made us it has been a privilege I do not think I fully comprehend.
But I sure hope to comprehend it in it fullest some day over there crystal clear by my own eyes face to face.
 
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Abiding

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BarlyGurl said:
I like winning!!!! But yer spose ta be my friend... can I trade in the plate full of calories for a bucket of cash????:D
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Those are negative calorie brownies one of my new recipes im putting
in my new cookbook soon to come out called "Eat your way to Paradise"

About the bucket of cash thingy. Id recommend you get a copy of
my book(in reprint now) called "Get away from me you ..i have not buckets of cash"
The new edition was able to get the entire title on the front page quite nicely.





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BarlyGurl

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#119
Abiding said:
Those are negative calorie brownies one of my new recipes im putting
in my new cookbook soon to come out called "Eat your way to Paradise"
About the bucket of cash thingy. Id recommend you get a copy of
my book(in reprint now) called "Get away from me you ..i have not buckets of cash"
The new edition was able to get the entire title on the front page quite nicely.


I like baking I don't have buckets either, I'd give it away if I did, I gotta little pocket change to share...
need some? Thanks for the brownies :)
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