What divides the Book of Daniel into 2

[zone]

Abd el Malik ibn Marwan began clearing the temple platform in 685AD. Constuction of the Islamic Dome of the Rock on the Temple mount of God most holy began in 688AD. The al Aksa mosque was completed in 705AD. That is a 20 year window for Islamic construction on the Temple Mount, any year of which would fit the prophecy. However, the 1290 days of Daniel 12:11 pins us to 688AD..

ellis.
your reverse engineering is awful. like i said.

there's no magically stretching GAP week, ellis.

you can make the DOTR the AOD if you want to.
the rabbis like your ideas alot....tons of carnal assistance in this "War on Terror" that isnt a war on terror.

its a war on CHRIST and Christians. just like scripture says it is.

JESUS IS THE TEMPLE, JESUS IS THE MOST HOLY, New Jerusalem is Our Mother.

just in case you missed it, Holy Spirit made sure none of this stuff you are saying would deceive the elect.

why you playin' S.o.S.?

oh well...to each his own.
bubye....

Galatains 4
Sons and Heirs
1I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave,a though he is the owner of everything, 2but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principlesb of the world. 4But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.

Paul’s Concern for the Galatians
8Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. 9But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? 10You observe days and months and seasons and years! 11I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain.

12Brothers,c I entreat you, become as I am, for I also have become as you are. You did me no wrong. 13You know it was because of a bodily ailment that I preached the gospel to you at first, 14and though my condition was a trial to you, you did not scorn or despise me, but received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus. 15What then has become of the blessing you felt? For I testify to you that, if possible, you would have gouged out your eyes and given them to me. 16Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?d 17They make much of you, but for no good purpose. They want to shut you out, that you may make much of them. 18It is always good to be made much of for a good purpose, and not only when I am present with you, 19my little children, for whom I am again in the anguish of childbirth until Christ is formed in you! 20I wish I could be present with you now and change my tone, for I am perplexed about you.

Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”

28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.

 

[zone]

We are not to hate the Muslims for whom Christ died, but we should absolutely hate Isalam, the false religion that has caused the deaths of so many of our Christian brethren.

how should we feel about Talmudic Judaism?

we supposed to think it's just old Moses sans Jesus?
you and i both know better.

Matthew 23:35
And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

Revelation 16:6
for they have shed the blood of your saints and prophets, and you have given them blood to drink as they deserve."

Revelation 17:6
I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus. When I saw her, I was greatly astonished.

i'm not too concerned about Islam, or the DOTR. no more than i am about any other false religion.
there's one i'm concerned about though, above the others...because it's masquerading as something it isn't. and some Xtians love it.

i asked you before: what do you think God is enraged about more...the DOTR...or what's UNDER the temple mount? you gonna talk about THAT?

 

[zone]

ellis:
do you know what these guys run from behind the scenes?

do you know what Wahhabism is, and where it came from?

who was Mustafa Kemal Atatürk?

 

[zone]

sorry for the derailment, Bookends.

*exit*

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I thought you liked hermeneutics. All what things? All things in this prophecy and it can now be proven with certainty that Daniel 10:1 to Daniel 10:7 was fulfilled by June 6, 1967. It is an assumption that this is an end-time prophecy. Amd when you quote Scripture to me, please quote it a little more accurately. Here is a literal translation . . .

Daniel 12:11 "And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was on the waters of the river, when he held up his right and his left hand to the heavens and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and a half. And when they have made an end of scattering the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished."

The power of the holy people was no longer scattered or shattered by June 6th, 1967 when Jeruisalem was freed of Gentile control for the first time in 2573 years.

Thats interesting. considering Gentiled do still control jerusalem. Jerusalem can be under control of Isreal or there would be no dome of the rock, there would be a temple there.

Also of major note. there are still more jews in the United states than their is in Palestine=ne.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No they don't, both the above are fine, but you cannot come to a knowledge of the truth ftom the others. But I am working on a post to explain Rev 11:9 now so I'll get to this later.

lol. They are not? they ALL say 3 1/2 years. and they ALL say all the events will be completed. Has jesus returned yet? thus they are not all completed. Is Gentile still in power? YES. thus they have not all been completed..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Abd el Malik ibn Marwan began clearing the temple platform in 685AD. Constuction of the Islamic Dome of the Rock on the Temple mount of God most holy began in 688AD. The al Aksa mosque was completed in 705AD. That is a 20 year window for Islamic construction on the Temple Mount, any year of which would fit the prophecy. However, the 1290 days of Daniel 12:11 pins us to 688AD.

We are not to hate the Muslims for whom Christ died, but we should absolutely hate Isalam, the false religion that has caused the deaths of so many of our Christian brethren.

So who comfirmed a one week covenant in that time, then caused sacrifice to stop and set up an abomination sitting in the holy place? And where is the great tribulation whihc was supposed to occure after the abomination? which would last for 42 months, or times time and half a time (3 1/2 years) which would be culminated by Christ? did that happen 3 1/2 years after the dome was built?

this has nothing to do with the dome. where do you get this?

 

[zone]

The power of the holy people was no longer scattered or shattered by June 6th, 1967 when Jeruisalem was freed of Gentile control for the first time in 2573 years.

serious?

Matthew 24:9
"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

Luke 21:17
All men will hate you because of me.

John 15:18
"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.

John 15:19
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

John 15:21
They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me.

John 8
I Am the Light of the World
12Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” 13So the Pharisees said to him, “You are bearing witness about yourself; your testimony is not true.” 14Jesus answered, “Even if I do bear witness about myself, my testimony is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going, but you do not know where I come from or where I am going. 15You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. 16Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone who judge, but I and the Father who sent me. 17In your Law it is written that the testimony of two people is true. 18I am the one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me.” 19 They said to him therefore, “Where is your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.” 20These words he spoke in the treasury, as he taught in the temple; but no one arrested him, because his hour had not yet come.

21So he said to them again, “I am going away, and you will seek me, and you will die in your sin. Where I am going, you cannot come.” 22So the Jews said, “Will he kill himself, since he says, ‘Where I am going, you cannot come’?” 23He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” 25So they said to him, “Who are you?” Jesus said to them, “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning. 26I have much to say about you and much to judge, but he who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from him.” 27They did not understand that he had been speaking to them about the Father. 28So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me. 29And he who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to him.” 30 As he was saying these things, many believed in him.

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ADNAN OKTAR:... They are trying to halt the rebuilding of the Masjid with all their might. Insha’Allah we will rebuild this Masjid with all its beauty and all its glory and we will also turn that place into an extraordinarily beautiful place just like it was during the times of Prophet Solomon (as). We will turn Jerusalem into a magnificent and admirable place abounding in cultivated fields and gardens insha’Allah.

They are trying to give out a message like this: If you do not make war, if you do not spill blood, you will become the army of the anti-Christ; however if you do so, you will be sound men. That is an atrocious satanic plot, no one will ever be deceived by this. There will be peace in the beginning and peace in the end; not even a single drop of blood will ever be shed in any stage of the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as) insha’Allah. Messiah mentioned in the Torah is the same person as the Mahdi according to our belief insha’Allah. Not even a single drop of blood will ever be shed during his times insha’Allah and all the world will live as brothers in peace, joy and happiness insha’Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: You know that the Prophet Isaac, he says that “All the nations will come to the Temple Mount and will look to go in the footsteps of God.” And in chapter sixty he says that “the foreigners and the gentiles will build the walls of God” and so too the Prophet Zacharia in chapter six, he says that “people from far away will come to build the Sanctuary of Lord.” I’m sure he is talking also about people from Turkey, also about people from the Philippines and from the United States together to build God’s House. Because God said “My House will be a House of Prayer for all the nations” and He is referring also to leadersŠkings of the gentiles who support the Jewish roots and support the Jewish freedom of worship on the Temple Mount and the Jewish freedom of independence in Israel.

ADNAN OKTAR:
The subject matter of Hazrat Mahdi (as) is also explained in the Torah in great details. For instance;

“The spirit of the fear of Lord shall rest upon him… his delight shall be in the fear of Lord…” (Isaiah, 11:2-3) That means he will fear from God very much.

“It [the Messianic age] will be ruled by the Messiah (the Mahdi)Š[who is] close to God.” (Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, Sanhedrin 10:1) That means it will be ruled by the Messiah, the Mahdi (as).

....I mean eventually all three religions will be at ease, they will live together as brothers very happily by Allah’s leave, insha’Allah. Insha’Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: We are hoping that it won’t be in the future. We want it to be in the present. And all the nations should call in the Name of God, His Name will be One, His Royalty will be One, He is One. And therefore it is so important that you are here and telling people about the freedom of worship on the Temple Mount. And it is so important condemning people who are using the name of Islam for promoting violence and therefore it is so important the call of unity that is coming from your mouth.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: Since I believe that there are so many people in the world who truly agree to what you say here. About the need to unite all those who are faithful in GodŠInsha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Insha’Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: La ilahe illa Allah (There is no god only Allah).

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha’Allah. There is no other god besides Allah. Alhamdulillah, Masha’Allah.

etc etc

Adnan Oktar and Rabbi Yehuda Glick From the Temple Institute | Joel's Trumpet << click

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we have just GOT to get that 3rd Temple built
and we'll do anything to accomplish it.

 

[Therapon]

serious?

.

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ADNAN OKTAR: &#8220;It [the Messianic age] will be ruled by the Messiah (the Mahdi)&#352;[who is] close to God.&#8221; (Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, Sanhedrin 10:1) That means it will be ruled by the Messiah, the Mahdi (as).

ADNAN OKTAR: Insha&#8217;Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: La ilahe illa Allah (There is no god only Allah).

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha&#8217;Allah. There is no other god besides Allah. Alhamdulillah, Masha&#8217;Allah.

we have just GOT to get that 3rd Temple built
and we'll do anything to accomplish it.

LOL, Reduced to quoting Muslim authorities, are we? The length of your posts and your quotes of the opinions of man does not make true the position you are trying to defend. You keep kicking against the verses I quoted from God's Word, so your argument is really not with me, but with the Bible.

Allah says, God has no son. The Bible says, "He that hath not the Son hath not the Father."

I will state catigorically, the 3rd temple will not be built and you, Zone, will be looking in the face of Jesus, shortly. The only reason I am responding to you at all is for the sake of the young Christians on this fiorum whom you might lead astray.

 

[Bookends]

sorry for the derailment, Bookends.

*exit*

It's ok, I made my point...keep up the good fight...

God bless

 

[Therapon]

So who comfirmed a one week covenant in that time, then caused sacrifice to stop and set up an abomination sitting in the holy place? And where is the great tribulation whihc was supposed to occure after the abomination? which would last for 42 months, or times time and half a time (3 1/2 years) which would be culminated by Christ? did that happen 3 1/2 years after the dome was built?

this has nothing to do with the dome. where do you get this?

Before we go further, we need to find solid scriptural support for a Seven-Year-Great-Tribulation. There isn't any, the concept was built on the seminal work of Fr. Ribera, a Jesuit, in 1591 then on the amplification of another Jesuit, Fr. Manuel de Lacunza y Diaz in 1812, who thought there would be a 45 day tribulation. Lacunza's views were then published in England by the known cultist, Edward Irving, 1835, further amplified by John N. Darby of Plymouth Brethren fame . . .

"Darby, founder of the Plymouth Brethren, goes to Irvingite meetings where he learns Ribera-Lacunza-McDonald-Irving end-time views. Darby doesn&#8217;t seem to believe Lacunza&#8217;s forty-five day mini-tribulation is long enough for God&#8217;s wrath to do a proper job of terrorizing the world&#8217;s final generation of sinners. So Darby adds a new wrinkle to their rather dubious eschatology by theorizing that Daniel&#8217;s 70th week is actually going to be an absolutely horrendous &#8220;Seven-Year Great Tribulation&#8221; to take place at the end of the Christian era!"​

Wow! And thus Darby invents the now world-famous &#8220;Seven-Year-Great-Tribulation!&#8221;​

Then to make that doubtful concept fit reality, Darby theorizes a &#8220;2000 year gap&#8221; between the 69th and 70th weeks. Guess what? Both ideas are suppositional theology with absolutely no biblical support whatsoever, but knowing Irvingites to be cultish, the Plymouth Brethren hide the origin of the view, claiming it to be their own.​

And that&#8217;s how all the doctrinal pieces came together, but how is the enemy going to spread this fabrication throughout the Western Church?​

Well, armed with these new Irvingite &#8220;insights,&#8221; Darby travels to the United States where he meets . . . The Distinguished Dr. Cyrus I. Scofield.​

Though three members of his revision committee resign because they recognize Ribera-Lacunza-Irving-McDonald-Darby cannot be biblically supported, Dr. C.I. Scofield accepts their &#8220;Seven Year Tribulation&#8221; hypothesis and includes it in his 1909 &#8211; and all
subsequent editions &#8211; of the Scofield annotated Bible.​

Scofield&#8217;s group knows the true origin of the &#8220;seven-year&#8221; and &#8220;pre-tribulation&#8221; rapture views, but since Irvingites were known to be cultish, hides the knowledge from the public. The view supported anyway because of its great fund-raising capability and​

because it increased the sales of the Scofield annotated Bible.

Once we recognize the truth of the above, we can get on to looking at rhe prophetic days in a different way.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Before we go further, we need to find solid scriptural support for a Seven-Year-Great-Tribulation. There isn't any, the concept was built on the seminal work of Fr. Ribera, a Jesuit, in 1591 then on the amplification of another Jesuit, Fr. Manuel de Lacunza y Diaz in 1812, who thought there would be a 45 day tribulation. Lacunza's views were then published in England by the known cultist, Edward Irving, 1835, further amplified by John N. Darby of Plymouth Brethren fame . . .

"Darby, founder of the Plymouth Brethren, goes to Irvingite meetings where he learns Ribera-Lacunza-McDonald-Irving end-time views. Darby doesn’t seem to believe Lacunza’s forty-five day mini-tribulation is long enough for God’s wrath to do a proper job of terrorizing the world’s final generation of sinners. So Darby adds a new wrinkle to their rather dubious eschatology by theorizing that Daniel’s 70th week is actually going to be an absolutely horrendous “Seven-Year Great Tribulation” to take place at the end of the Christian era!"​

Wow! And thus Darby invents the now world-famous “Seven-Year-Great-Tribulation!”​

Then to make that doubtful concept fit reality, Darby theorizes a “2000 year gap” between the 69th and 70th weeks. Guess what? Both ideas are suppositional theology with absolutely no biblical support whatsoever, but knowing Irvingites to be cultish, the Plymouth Brethren hide the origin of the view, claiming it to be their own.​

And that’s how all the doctrinal pieces came together, but how is the enemy going to spread this fabrication throughout the Western Church?​

Well, armed with these new Irvingite “insights,” Darby travels to the United States where he meets . . . The Distinguished Dr. Cyrus I. Scofield.​

Though three members of his revision committee resign because they recognize Ribera-Lacunza-Irving-McDonald-Darby cannot be biblically supported, Dr. C.I. Scofield accepts their “Seven Year Tribulation” hypothesis and includes it in his 1909 – and all
subsequent editions – of the Scofield annotated Bible.​

Scofield’s group knows the true origin of the “seven-year” and “pre-tribulation” rapture views, but since Irvingites were known to be cultish, hides the knowledge from the public. The view supported anyway because of its great fund-raising capability and​

because it increased the sales of the Scofield annotated Bible.

Once we recognize the truth of the above, we can get on to looking at rhe prophetic days in a different way.

there is no 7 year great tribulation. it is 3 1/2 year. if you can;t get that straight. we can not come together.

daniel says the little horn will reign for 3/1 years. Revelation says he will have power for 3 1/2 years. Jesus said that after the abomination. there will be great tribulation. there is all kinds of biblical support. there is no biblical support for what you are trying to show.

 

[Therapon]

there is no 7 year great tribulation. it is 3 1/2 year. if you can;t get that straight. we can not come together.

daniel says the little horn will reign for 3/1 years. Revelation says he will have power for 3 1/2 years. Jesus said that after the abomination. there will be great tribulation. there is all kinds of biblical support. there is no biblical support for what you are trying to show.

OK, <smile> so then I have to ask, where is your support for a 3.5 year tribulation?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

OK, <smile> so then I have to ask, where is your support for a 3.5 year tribulation?

you do not think the little horn of daniel, or the beast out of the water in rev who will rule for 3 1/2 years is the tribulation?

Scripture says the beast will rule for 3 1/2 years

it says he will commit the abomination of desolation

Jesus said after the abomination, there will be great tribulation, such as never has been seen before or after. I hope you do not think it has happened yet? what greater tribulation has the world seen which was greater than ww1 and ww2 combined? which was worldwide in scope even those two were not worldwide in scope)

 

[zone]

LOL, Reduced to quoting Muslim authorities, are we?

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK?
Muslim authority?

whatchu talkin bout ellis?
he's on your side.

why not quote muslims? you're quoting rabbis.

The length of your posts

should they be longer or shorter?

and your quotes of the opinions of man

kinda like your magic 7th week gap opinion?
which is just dispy heresy of another stripe.

do you read and write Hebrew ellis?
sorry if you answered...i haven't seen it. i'll try to watch for your answer here.
i'm asking for a reason, kinda cuz when i researched your stuff last year i found something curious.

does not make true the position you are trying to defend.

what position am i trying to defend?

i'm actually laughing at your DOTR theory.
its ridiculous. plus you cheated.

GAP theorists abound.

You keep kicking against the verses I quoted from God's Word, so your argument is really not with me, but with the Bible.

no, you're twisting what it says.
you said the jews are in covenant with God outside Christ.

that's called H-E-R-E-S-Y

Allah says, God has no son. The Bible says, "He that hath not the Son hath not the Father."

then why is Rabbi Glick kickin' it with Allah?

and why are you kickin' it with Rabbis who don't believe Jesus is God's Son?

I will state catigorically, the 3rd temple will not be built and you, Zone, will be looking in the face of Jesus, shortly.

ya i know.
you already predicted His coming once before and were wrong.

The only reason I am responding to you at all is for the sake of the young Christians on this fiorum whom you might lead astray.

mkay.
ditto ellis.

 

[zone]

Wow!

Darby theorizes a &#8220;2000 year gap&#8221; between the 69th and 70th weeks.

how long is your GAP ellis?
(technically you don't have gap??....your 70th week is just suuuuuuuuuuuper-long??)

haha....oh man
i need a nap or something. it's like a B movie.
zzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Therapon]

you do not think the little horn of daniel, or the beast out of the water in rev who will rule for 3 1/2 years is the tribulation?

Scripture says the beast will rule for 3 1/2 years

it says he will commit the abomination of desolation

Jesus said after the abomination, there will be great tribulation, such as never has been seen before or after. I hope you do not think it has happened yet? what greater tribulation has the world seen which was greater than ww1 and ww2 combined? which was worldwide in scope even those two were not worldwide in scope)

I'm still asking, where does Scripture say a 3 1/2 years tribulation? I can't find it anywhere.

 

[peterT]

I'm still asking, where does Scripture say a 3 1/2 years tribulation? I can't find it anywhere.

Jesus said

Matt24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
21 For then shall be great tribulation,

Now go to Daniel and see what Jesus was talking about.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

A week is seven years

In the middle of that 7 year covenant or agreement that’s when the great tribulation will begin

Gen29:28And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
29And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.
30And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years.

All this is conformed in the book of revelation, as it all talks about a 3 ½ time line or 1260 days or 42 months or time, times, and half time.

It’s a 7 year agreement or covenant, and in the middle of the 7 years then shall be great tribulation

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I'm still asking, where does Scripture say a 3 1/2 years tribulation? I can't find it anywhere.

of course not. because your not looking. I showed you. if you can'e see it, then no one can help you

1 Scripture states the little horn will blaspheme God and his temple (the abomination of desolation)

2. Scripture states he will conquer and rule for 3 1/2 years

3. Jesus himself states, this time immediately following will be a time of great tribulation. which will be stopped only by his return.

If tribulation is started at abomination, And the Little horn is the one who abominates. And his time is said to be for only 3.5 years, which will be ended by Christ himself. then it is 3.5 years..

if you still can;t see it. I can;t help you!

 

[Therapon]

Jesus said

Matt24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
21 For then shall be great tribulation,

Now go to Daniel and see what Jesus was talking about.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 9:27 was written in 536 BC and Jesus spoke Mat 24:14-21 in 32 AD. This prophecy has to be future to when Jesus gave it, but not neceassarily future to us. So how do you know "the abomination that maketh desolate" isn't the Islamic Dome of the Rock that is now trespassing on God's temple mount?

And since millions of both Christians and Jews have been murdered during the Christian era, how do you know the tribulation hasn't been ongoing since Steven was stoned?