IS LIVING TOGETHER A SIN?

[damombomb]

1Timothy 4
1 Timothy 4

New International Version (NIV)

4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer
People don't want to marry because of money, disability, food stamps other benefits

 

[BarlyGurl]

none of those things are holding me back.... <smile>
they are are worldy focus too

 

[damombomb]

Me either, God is to be feared and is our provider............

 

[Tommy4Christ]

I have read many threads by men and women who are having issues with their boyfriend/girlfriend. Every time I read them, I find within the paragraphs that they have been living together. As they post their problem, they seem oblivious to the fact that they themselves are living in sin. Because of that, they also seem oblivious to the fact that they only see half the problem. They themselves are the other half.

Galatians 6:7-8 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Why is it most of these people are posting threads about cheating? Because those who commit adultery will reap adultery. When a person confesses to be a "Christian" constantly walks in rebellion and disobedience, what should they expect?

With all the posts by people who are shacking up, another sin has arisen. Hold onto your seats, for this one might shock you. The other sin is done by others in the thread that refuses to help that person by revealing their true problem. What good is it to pray for them, when we refuse to tell them about their sin? Isn't that like saying, "be warmed and filled", without giving them what they need?

Galatians 6:1-2 1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Praying for a couple who has been shacked up that they get back together is not the will of God. God's will is that all men come to repentance. God's will is that Christ will become first in their lives. God's will is that they will be spiritually restored/get saved. Physical and emotional problems should never supersede the needs of the soul. Yet this is what I see more often than not.

Amen, I totally agree, the church is a sin fest in many cases, and it just blows my mind to see that those who profess Christ have no problem shacking up with each other, but I tell you this is normal behavior as well as many other sins that will disqualify many from the kingdom, but remember, its not too late:

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slow concerning His promise, as some count slowness, but is long-suffering toward us, not purposing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.​

As long as mankind has breath repentance can be found, yes I mean found, it usually doesn’t come until the sinning soul breaks down, yielding to the holy word of God, through the conviction of the Holy Spirit, who is convicting the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment!
Joh 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Joh 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Joh 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
Joh 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Now many will say repentance comes after the conversion, or somewhere down the road since stopping any sin is impossible, since mankind is depraved and unable.
But God is not mocked, God is still waiting patiently for His wayward creation to repent, forsake their sins, which mean they stop first, and then seek His mercy, broken as a wild horse, now useful to His master. He gave them free will and ability to choose to repent or not.
Rom 2:4 Or do you despise the riches of His kindness, and the forbearance and long-suffering, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
If your life is a mess, and you are living the lie, that tells your conscience you can sin and live of the world and still be saved, and in bondage to your flesh, giving into temptation whenever it comes knocking at your door, just remember it’s not God condoning your bad conduct, but your conscience becoming seared to the point that real repentance and faith will not be found, it will be too late, His great mercy and kindness will not last for long!
So it’s not too late for those who still have breath, and are ready to stop playing Russian roulette with the patients and mercy of God, this is not a game, this is life or death, for all eternity, repent before it’s too late and God says time is up.
Tommy 12-27-12
The Biblical Characteristics of True Repentance: (as taught by early church and Apostles) 2Cor7:10-11 “For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. For observe this very thing that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter.”
For True Repentance to have Taken Place the following MUST have Occurred:
1) Season of Deep felt Godly Sorrow for sin. (Invoked by Spirit of Truth working, Jh16:8)
2) A Crisis of Conviction that Cuts to the heart! (Sin already being forsaken!)
3) A Zeal to CLEAR oneself of all Wrong Doing against God. (make restitution if necessary)
4) Indignation and Fear that leads to Vehement Desire to STOP Sinning!
5) Vindication and Finally PURITY of heart!
Every incident of Repentance in Scripture Follows this PROCESS. (DON’T Let anyone tell you it Doesn’t, and they will MOST certainly Try!) The Sin STOPS HERE, The Old Man DIES here, The Flesh is Crucified HERE! NOT Afterwards. The Desires and Conduct are CHANGED here. (Or never will be!)
OBEDIENCE to God follows in NEWNESS of Life and All things New! (Rom6:4-6, 2Cor5:17) If you have NOT Experienced this and have NO IDEA what it means, you are NOT BORN of the SPIRIT!!!
You may indeed have ‘RECEIVED’ Christ, and ‘Believed’ on His Name (repeated some words) BUT the Devils ALSO Believe! (James2:19) If a Person is SAVED by What he DOES and NOT by Faith Alone! (as James affirms, JS 2:24) The What he DOES PART, STARTS with This REPENTANCE!
I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds! Acts26:20
Courtesy standingthegap.org

 

[Tommy4Christ]

Pray for the couple to repent, come broken before the mercy of God,forsaking thier flesh, even if you remain alone, better to be alone and pure than shacked up and on the road to perdition!

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. And these are contrary to one another; lest whatever you may will, these things you do.
Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are clearly revealed, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lustfulness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, fightings, jealousies, angers, rivalries, divisions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envyings, murders, drunkennesses, revelings, and things like these; of which I tell you before, as I also said before, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Tommy4Christ]

Its sad today in Christian circles, just how many do not believe the word of God, have no fear of Him, and His judgement for the children of disobedience, I blame most of this on the liberal church, who teach a license to sin telling the sinner to believe and your in, way to the cross!


No repentance, no obedient faith, and no heart purity!

 

[damombomb]

1cor7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

 

[HealingHeart]

If your asking you already know the answer why try to keep compromising with the word of the bible??? Fornication is real.Sex before marriage cant be justified just because you cant control temptation or lust ,Or the guy needs to test drive.Reality is if its real love then it will be worth the wait,and not just sex.

 

[Stephen63]

If your asking you already know the answer why try to keep compromising with the word of the bible??? Fornication is real.Sex before marriage cant be justified just because you cant control temptation or lust ,Or the guy needs to test drive.Reality is if its real love then it will be worth the wait,and not just sex.

As you can see, it's important to walk the talk.... just sayin'

 

[Shaije]

When does marriage (in God's eyes) occur?

Do you have the answer to your question? *Serious, curious.......

 

[kenisyes]

Do you have the answer to your question? *Serious, curious.......

When the two people have decided that each other is the person God has chosen for them, and agree together to act on that realization. The moment of marriage occurs at the time of communication to each other, to the effect of "I have decided that God has chosen us for each other, and I will be your husband (wife)".

There's a wide variation in how people communicate (and a wider variation on how people say "God told me..."), so there is a wide variation in what you see. Normally, you see some kind of exchange of vows between the two, and then actions such as moving in together.

And of course, you have to adjust the definition for people who "do not know God". That can be as tricky as deciding exactly who is/is not going to heaven. The first part of the Book of Romans is good for that.

 

[chuinchoy]

Living together not as a married couple IS NOT A SIN while living together as a couple and not married IS A SIN.

 

[Stephen63]

Living together not as a married couple IS NOT A SIN while living together as a couple and not married IS A SIN.

The subject is about shacking up, not roommates..... just sayin'

 

[BananaPie]

Are you suggesting that if two unmarried people flirt or kiss, they are married? If not, where do you draw the line?

Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

It's not flirting and kissing which makes a marriage because a flirt and kisses are not binding. What IS binding is the marriage covenant (or marriage license in today's society), which grants you the right to flirt with and kiss the person you are married to.

In terms of honor, it's ridiculous wrong to wear the jeans before purchasing them.

 

[Jenjoy]

somehow I feel like I'm watching an episode of threes company.

 

[Stephen63]

somehow I feel like I'm watching an episode of threes company.

That show only CONFIRMS how wrong it is, LOL!

 

[Jenjoy]

lol, right.

 

[Kefa52]

Living together wouldn't be a sin if you were just living together. Like two bedrooms, no sex...etc. People will precieve you are sleeping together so it isn't a good idea.
Just like drinking 1 beer in front of a young brother or sister. It can cause problems.

 

[Colours]

I think the marriage begins when the INTENT of being together begins. It takes two.

Like, for instance, two people meet. One isn't so sure, the other is keen. Three months later one thinks 'I love this man', and the man 'I love this woman.

'We want to be together'.

The whole 'sex before marriage thing', I believe, is a deterrant to having sex before two people are properly commited to each other, whatever the signal of that commitment may be. Because we all know, sex complicates things.

It is a powerful tool. A very powerful tool.

And I think it's important that two people love and respect each other enough before they engage in it.

i don't think it's a case of 'get a piece of paper before you have sex'.

it was customary in Jewish days for the couple to live together for a period of time, usually one year, before having sex and therefore being 'Married together' ie. Becoming one flesh.

It is about getting to know the person.

 

[Colours]

In today's society we also have contraception, so sex doesn't always end in children. But it's still a powerful bonding act. And I think the problem that the bible tries to avoid, is that the relationship becomes more about me, me , me, and about the sex, rather than about companionship and caring.

In today's 'I want the best' society, it really pays to develop a deep emotional bond with a person before taking that step.