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mark54

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Elin said:
Like you are doing now?


Therein is your problem.

You think exegesis is based on opinion.
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A l.ot of people come onto these kind of websites. They think they know much of the Spiritual. They can be leading lights to others. They can do sound/in depth exegesis of the scripures, yet they are not ministers, that says much

You cannot even answer one simple question
Does Christ dwell now in Heaven in a body of flesh and blood
Yet you believe you are doing sound exegesis on this subject, yet you have no plain scripture to back up your beliefs, I however do have plain scripture to back up my beliefs
Sorry, but it seems to me this all started because I said that I believed ECCL had answered well in relation to how Father and Son were one. Maybe it upset you that I said that, I can only wonder why
 
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Elin said:
Give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God.
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You will not find the words Jesus is God because it is not written specifically like this. People learn this from the teachings of the church just like we learn the Trinity. I have no problem with the teachings of my church.
 
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Elin

You cannot even answer one simple question
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Looking forward to your answer to one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
 
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Looking forward to your answer to one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
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Whereas I could easily answer that question, it just shows you are being forced to deflect from the subject being discussed.
You have no scripture with which to bring forth in supprt of your views, whereas I have. All you have is what you consider sound exegesis.
Your continued deflection proves the fallibility of what you write
 
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mark54 said:
I could easily answer that question
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Looking forward to your answer

to the one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
 
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mark54

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Elin said:
Looking forward to your answer

to the one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
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LOL

You cannnot stick to the subject at hand can you for you cannot defend
your position, or answer the simple question that started this debate

Do you believe Christ dwells now in a body of flesh and blood in Heaven?

As you cannot answer that simple question, why try and continue this by simply deflecting from the issue at hand?
Not good
 
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Looking forward to your answer

to the one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
 
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mark54 said:
It seems that you, as well as Elin cannot answer a very simple question

Does Christ dwell now in Heaven in a body of flesh and blood? you do not know the answer/have no opinion either way, how can you discuss this subject?

Also, as with Ellen my post to her has been totally ignored.
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He defintely has a glorified body. There is nothing n Scripture that would deny what normally comprises a body..namely flesh and blood albeit glorified. After all what is a body without flesh and blood? A phantom? A gnostic creation?
 
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He defintely has a glorified body. There is nothing n Scripture that would deny what normally comprises a body..namely flesh and blood albeit glorified. After all what is a body without flesh and blood? A phantom? A gnostic creation?
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So you believe(I take it) that Christ, who reigns now in Heaven and on earth for all things have been put under his feet, does so, in a body of flesh and blood, though the angels are spirit messengers.
Interesting
And you believe this though Paul states clearly that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of Heaven
 
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Elin said:
Looking forward to your answer

to the one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
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Deflect, deflect, deflect, for you have nothing else left to do.
And you have no answer to the simple question
Does Christ dwell now in Heaven in a body of flesh and blood?
 
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mark54 said:
Deflect, deflect, deflect, for you have nothing else left to do.
And you have no answer to the simple question
Does Christ dwell now in Heaven in a body of flesh and blood?
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Mark you are in two different threads repeating the same song!

"You are deflecting my questions"

They are answered, if you do not like this answers then stop spamming the threads and show us your truth.
 
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Rock022 said:
Mark you are in two different threads repeating the same song!

"You are deflecting my questions"

They are answered, if you do not like this answers then stop spamming the threads and show us your truth.
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Your response is to a post not addressed to you. If you find it uncomfortable that questions I ask are not responded to, do not say I am spamming

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The questions have definately not been answered
 
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Your response is to a post not addressed to you. If you find it uncomfortable that questions I ask are not responded to, do not say I am spamming

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The questions have definately not been answered
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From Post #73 to post #112 You have instigated 16 times in this very thread. That leaves 23 posts in between of answers, you do not like. And there os another thread where you are doing the exact same thing. That is also spamming!


# 73 Do you believe Christ now lives in Heaven in a body of flesh and blood?
Thank you


# 81 Can I ask you once more


# 84 So you cannot answer the question


# 87 No it is not easy to understand, you are grasping at straws in reality


# 88 A crystal clear answer?


Obviously you see through a baised lens


# 90 I am not responding to your specific point, but the issue in general of accepting simple teaching. [then proceeded to ask many questions]


# 93 Give me plain scripture ...


# 94 What you mean is, your natural reasoninig that contradicts the plain words of scripture


# 97 It seems that you, as well as Elin cannot answer a very simple question


# 99 Once again, all you can do is divert from the question often asked.


# 101 You cannot even answer one simple question


# 104 Your continued deflection proves the fallibility of what you write


# 106 You cannnot stick to the subject at hand can you for you cannot defend your position, or answer the simple question that started this debate


# 109 So you believe(I take it)...
# 110 Deflect, deflect, deflect, for you have nothing else left to do.
And you have no answer to the simple question


# 112 Your response is to a post not addressed to you. If you find it uncomfortable that questions I ask are not responded to, do not say I am spamming


BTW
The questions have definately not been answered
 
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Rock022 said:

From Post #73 to post #112 You have instigated 16 times in this very thread. That leaves 23 posts in between of answers, you do not like. And there os another thread where you are doing the exact same thing. That is also spamming!


# 73 Do you believe Christ now lives in Heaven in a body of flesh and blood?
Thank you


# 81 Can I ask you once more


# 84 So you cannot answer the question


# 87 No it is not easy to understand, you are grasping at straws in reality


# 88 A crystal clear answer?


Obviously you see through a baised lens


# 90 I am not responding to your specific point, but the issue in general of accepting simple teaching. [then proceeded to ask many questions]


# 93 Give me plain scripture ...


# 94 What you mean is, your natural reasoninig that contradicts the plain words of scripture


# 97 It seems that you, as well as Elin cannot answer a very simple question


# 99 Once again, all you can do is divert from the question often asked.


# 101 You cannot even answer one simple question


# 104 Your continued deflection proves the fallibility of what you write


# 106 You cannnot stick to the subject at hand can you for you cannot defend your position, or answer the simple question that started this debate


# 109 So you believe(I take it)...
# 110 Deflect, deflect, deflect, for you have nothing else left to do.
And you have no answer to the simple question


# 112 Your response is to a post not addressed to you. If you find it uncomfortable that questions I ask are not responded to, do not say I am spamming


BTW
The questions have definately not been answered
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Absolutedly

If people refuse to answer the plain question relating to a discussion, I do repeatedly remind them of that when they try to constantly deflect from answering(as you have sidetracked away from ansewring questions also, which probably accounts for your above post)
 
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Elin

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mark54 said:
And you have no answer to the simple question
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Looking forward to your answer

to the one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
 
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Elin said:
Looking forward to your answer

to the one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
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So this is what your argument has been reduced to. You cannot defend scripturally your position, nor are you able to state if you believe Jesus dwells in Heaven in a body of flesh and blood. So you have no choice but to deflect from what you cannot address as you are doing.
As you obviously do not know if Christ in Heaven dwells in a body of flesh and blood or not, I don't feel you should be criticising others who state they do not believe he does. If you have no firm opinion/knowledge of a subject, how are you able to criticise others for theirs?
 
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Looking forward to your answer

to the one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
 
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mark54

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Elin said:
Looking forward to your answer

to the one simple question:

Can you give me a plain Scripture that states Jesus is God?
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Have you come to any conclusion yet as to whether Christ dwells in a body of flesh and blood in Heaven? If you have not, I would suggest you refrain from ctiticising others who do voice their opinions on the subject
 
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mark54 said:
So you believe(I take. t) that Christ, who reigns now in Heaven and on earth for all things have been put under his feet, does so, in a body of flesh and blood, though the awith his poels are spirit messengers.
Interesting
And you believe this though Paul states clearly that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of Heaven
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'Flesh and blood' is a Hebraism for fallen man. Jesus being also God is not limited to his humanity as there is a communication of both natures, that is why I asked you those questions dealing with His post resurrection appearances which you haven't answered.
 
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'Flesh and blood' is a Hebraism for fallen man. Jesus being also God is not limited to his humanity as there is a communication of both natures, that is why I asked you those questions dealing with His post resurrection appearances which you haven't answered.
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All you are giving me is man made rationalisation and thinking.
I repeat. Do you believe that, Christ, who reigns now in Heaven and on earth dwells in a body made of flesh and blood?
Very simple question.
 
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