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he was in the world and the world was made by him.the same God that created at first came back in the world to restore that which was lost. everything was done over in the spiritual.he is also the second and last adam.1cor.15:45-50.at first adam was place in a deep sleep and a rib was taken he also was in a deep sleep on the cross and his side was blood and water came out.
 
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bahamas said:
he was in the world and the world was made by him.the same God that created at first came back in the world to restore that which was lost. everything was done over in the spiritual.he is also the second and last adam.1cor.15:45-50.at first adam was place in a deep sleep and a rib was taken he also was in a deep sleep on the cross and his side was blood and water came out.
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But we can all quote scripture:


Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. [SUP]25[/SUP]For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. [SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy to be destroyed is death. [SUP]27 [/SUP]For he “has put everything under his feet.”[SUP][c][/SUP] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
1Cor15:24-28
 
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God is one person.jesus christ is God.3 separate manifestation.just like us we r body soul and spirit but one man.
 
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bahamas said:
he was in the world and the world was made by him.the same God that created at first came back in the world to restore that which was lost. everything was done over in the spiritual.he is also the second and last adam.1cor.15:45-50.at first adam was place in a deep sleep and a rib was taken he also was in a deep sleep on the cross and his side was blood and water came out.
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As we can all quote scripture, my only concern here is what a person must believe to inherit eternal life
A scripture quoting contest that goes on endlessly is not productive
 
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bahamas said:
God is one person.jesus christ is God.3 separate manifestation.just like us we r body soul and spirit but one man.
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You see the thing is, I know the presence of the Father is fully in the son

The disagreement is not as to the nature of Christ but his title

And as I know what title we must believe SCRIPTURALLY Christ to have to inheirt eternal life, I am quite safe with my belief as to who Christ is-unless
I will be condemned for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth
I do not believe I will be
 
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as i said one God three manifestation.hand over the kingdom means he will go back to what he was even before the beginging on time .in the begingin was the word the word was with God and the word was God.john1:1-5.
 
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i see what you r saying but jesus christ is not a separate person from God the father if thats what you r saying.the word put on flesh and came among men.he was 100pecent man and 100percent God.
 
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i see what you r saying but jesus christ is not a separate person from God the father if thats what you r saying.the word put on flesh and came among men.he was 100pecent man and 100percent God.
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OK
When did CHRIST become 100% God and man on earth?
At birth, or later?
 
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one person siting in heaven as God not two.he sities on the right hand of power untill his enemies becomes is foot stool
 
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one person siting in heaven as God not two.he sities on the right hand of power untill his enemies becomes is foot stool
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Thev prescence of the Father fully dwells in the Son

Tell me, does a person have to have a theological degree to become a Christian?
 
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he was always God put on flesh at birth.manifest him self as son
 
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You know you are far more read than I am Zone, so I am suprised you have still not answered the question I asked of you and others. How about answering that before asking me questions.
BTW
Your questioin is easy to answer, but there is a principal involved here
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eh...been here done all this. not interested in the you answer mine thingee.
i don't even remember what the question is.

you can believe Jesus was just a man; or a created entity to be worshipped; or any other thing you want:)

just let it be then why not?
cuz clearly, if Jesus is not God, that makes we who believe He is, idolators. and i don't think you'll be wanting to fellowship with idolators...would you?

unless you're a polytheist (and we may worship more than one God), which you claim to not be - yet it's the very thing you're forced to be.

k. nite.
 
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he was always God put on flesh at birth.manifest him self as son
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So why did the Holy Spirit descend on Christ in BODILY SHAPE/FORM at His Baptism, what was the need?
 
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any person can become a christian.and u dnt even need a degree to become a minister.peter neva had one.he was a fisher man
 
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eh...been here done all this. not interested in the you answer mine thingee.
i don't even remember what the question is.

you can believe Jesus was just a man; or a created entity to be worshipped; or any other thing you want:)

just let it be then why not?
cuz clearly, if Jesus is not God, that makes we who believe He is, idolators. and i don't think you'll be wanting to fellowship with idolators...would you?

unless you're a polytheist (and we may worship more than one God), which you claim to not be - yet it's the very thing you're forced to be.

k. nite.
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Someone said that we worship the divinity of the Father in the Son, I quite liked that myself, but there are a variety of ways I guess you could approach it. I would say we worship the Father as the one true God, and Christ as our Lord and Saviour. But, we could not worship Christ as our Lord and Saviour, UNLESS he was possessed of the Father.
Don't know if that makes sense!
Hope it does.


The above was my reply to an earlier question

Thing is Zone, you don't answer questions, only ask them, that is not fair debate
And as you are far more read than I am of scholars and theologians I cannot understand why you expect me to answer your questions while you ignore mine. That is not proper deabte and extremely unfair. If you wanna ask me questions, please answer mine
 
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Someone said that we worship the divinity of the Father in the Son, I quite liked that myself, but there are a variety of ways I guess you could approach it. I would say we worship the Father as the one true God, and Christ as our Lord and Saviour. But, we could not worship Christ as our Lord and Saviour, UNLESS he was possessed of the Father.
Don't know if that makes sense!
Hope it does.
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no it doesn't make sense.
and you know it doesn't:)
you're winging it for some reason that's beyond me.

anyways....you could repose the question whatever it is, maybe i'll see it tomorrow.

like: "possessed of the Father" ? huh?
just kinda like a shell the Father directs here and there?
as in possession?

or owned by?

no.....not understanding. your explanations of the Godhead (God) are silly.
why not just READ it.
 
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thats the three manifestation right there.like us body soul and spirit,but a man only separate when he dies body back to the ground spirit back to GOD who gave it.but God separates and remains alive because he is God.but its one god.the flesh son,holy spirit active force r spirit of God but one God
 
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no it doesn't make sense.
and you know it doesn't:)
you're winging it for some reason that's beyond me.

anyways....you could repose the question whatever it is, maybe i'll see it tomorrow.

like: "possessed of the Father." ? huh?
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Oh I luv it i really do. You refuse to answer any of my questions then say you do not like my answers. All you can do is sit there and refuse to answer questions put to you

The fulness of the Godhead bodily dwells in the Son
Our disagreement is not concerning the nature of Christ but his title.

Now obviously you just wanna sit there, answer no questions yourself but pick holes in the answers I give you. Anyone can do that Zone, heck that's easy. Tell me when you are prepared to answer a question of mine will ya
 
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Oh I luv it i really do. You refuse to answer any of my questions then say you do not like my answers. All you can do is sit there and refuse to answer questions put to you

The fulness of the Godhead bodily dwells in the Son
Our disagreement is not concerning the nature of Christ but his title.

Now obviously you just wanna sit there, answer no questions yourself but pick holes in the answers I give you. Anyone can do that Zone, heck that's easy. Tell me when you are prepared to answer a question of mine will ya
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okay.


"The fulness of the Godhead bodily dwells in the Son.

Our disagreement is not concerning the nature of Christ but his title."


frame your proposition around this part please.
explain clearly what you believe (don't worry about what i believe).
just your idea.
k?

possibly back in the a.m.
 
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okay.


"The fulness of the Godhead bodily dwells in the Son.

Our disagreement is not concerning the nature of Christ but his title."


frame your proposition around this part please.
explain clearly what you believe (don't worry about what i believe).
just your idea.
k?

possibly back in the a.m.
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When you answer a question of mine i will be happy to Zone. What's the problem?
Can't you answer any questions that are put to you?
All of that reading up of scholars and theologians, and yet, when it comes to answering my questions you constantly refuse, you only wanna ask 'em

Tell me when you are prepared to answer a question for a change, then we will continue
 
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