The Trinity

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Wow, what maturity
Tell you what. If I do answer it, do you promise in front of people on this thread to then FORTHRIGHTLY WITHOUT DEFLECTION answer a question of mine?

You told us back in post #448 that you were putting me on 'ignore'....yeah, right.

Still waiting for you to come clean and stop hiding behind your favorite line....'You didn't answer my question'.

I lost count as to how many people you have parroted this to...

 
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I have a couple general bible questions about the Trinity.

Does God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost appear to any ONE profit within the bible simultaneously?
If so, how many times OR can I get an example of just one time, please?
No.

The Trinity is a title given to God.

Like water really.

Water has three forms it appears in:

Vapor - gaseous form
Ice - solid form
Water - liquid form

No matter what form water takes in it's realistic instances, it is still water. Same with God; The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit are all God's titles. But God is still God - not three separate entities, just three different forms.

Like Water which takes on different forms according to circumstance, God took on these three forms for various circumstances, mostly to first introduce God as the true God ( The Father was known as Jahova in the Old Testament and showed his authority here and there to demonstrate that amongst the false gods of that time, he was indeed the true one.) The Son was the form God took in order to come in the flesh as Jesus Christ, who behaved like a son of God to give an example for God's people / children and too partake in the great sacrifice to fulfill the Old Covenant and establish the New Covenant so we may gain eternal life in our times.

Lastly is the Holy Spirit which is the " depth " of God if you will, sent down in our generation times to bring enlighten his children with wisdom and understanding of his holy word so they may know the way to salvation.

This is the final step in the trinity, and the Holy Spirit is the one today's Christians should be paying attention to, because he will be our savior in the last days, hence Jesus's proclamation about 2nd coming Christ.

If you don't know the name of the Holy Spirit, you cannot recognize your savior in this age. Jahova was the Father, Jesus was the Son...the Holy Spirit has a physical name on the earth only those who are asking for will know.

Seek and you will find.

God Bless.
 
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Abiding

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Interesting that when I produce plain scripture of Christ's words concerning this subject, you weant to do a theological examination of them so they end up saying something completely different from what was plainly state

But it seems you want me to accept your scriptures as written

Sigh Sigh

If I have time later I will respond to the
'Great God and Saviour quote'

But it seems I am expected to have discourse with half a dozen people at once.
I ain't that sharp ya know!
Oh! quit your posturing. Your here for the limelight and attention so quit with the false pressured bit.
 
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One of the simplest ways to understand the trinity is. Its God in three places at the same time, not three gods. God existing as the Father, Jesus, and Holy Spirit all at the same time. Thats where we get the word persons, its God existing at 3 different places with different tasks all at the same time. Holy Spirit fills the believer, Jesus is God in flesh, and the Father who created the heavens and earth. Is not God able to do anything and everything? So why debate that God cant be in three different places as three different people all at the same time? Three in One my friends...
 
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Oh! quit your posturing. Your here for the limelight and attention so quit with the false pressured bit.
You are getting upset Abiding. It has already resulted in you making untruthful claims as to what I have written on this website. And you are now constantly attacking me personally
If you are frustrated by the fact you cannot respond to my oft repeated question and any thing else I write, I would suggest you ignore this thread.
 
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Abiding

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Like I say, please produce the post,
I dont have to. Im not the one on display. Youve put yourself on display.
And i already gave who Jesus claimed Himself to be from revelation.
So if you deny that your denying the Son is God therefore you have a different Jesus.
 
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I dont have to. Im not the one on display. Youve put yourself on display.
And i already gave who Jesus claimed Himself to be from revelation.
So if you deny that your denying the Son is God therefore you have a different Jesus.
Your statements are becoming even more desperate it seems to me. I would urge you to withdraw completely from this thread. Clearly you have become greatly troubled by it
 
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You told us back in post #448 that you were putting me on 'ignore'....yeah, right.

Still waiting for you to come clean and stop hiding behind your favorite line....'You didn't answer my question'.

I lost count as to how many people you have parroted this to...

Are you talking about the people that didnt answer his question with grey matter?:p
 
Feb 21, 2012
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These are Trinitarian verses that you believe in.
Really? I thought scripture was given to anyone for doctrine, reproof and correction. . . .given that we may know God the Father, and his Son Jesus Christ, and the gift given to us through the Holy Spirit.
 
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John 1:1-3 [SUP]1 [/SUP]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God. [SUP]3[/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Isaiah 9:6-7 [SUP]6 [/SUP]For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
Other people showed Scriptures as well to prove Jesus is God, yet you ignored them all. Why is that? Why is it that someone ignores absolute Scripture in context? I believe most people here know that answer.
 
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Abiding

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You are getting upset Abiding. It has already resulted in you making untruthful claims as to what I have written on this website. And you are now constantly attacking me personally
If you are frustrated by the fact you cannot respond to my oft repeated question and any thing else I write, I would suggest you ignore this thread.
Nice try mark. but im not upset, not making untruthful claims, nor am i attacking you. I do notice that
as a tactic of those experienced in debate. Just isnt true.

Ive answered your question many time.....another tactic mark. denial. and request i go away.
yawn
 
Nov 19, 2012
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Really? I thought scripture was given to anyone for doctrine, reproof and correction. . . .given that we may know God the Father, and his Son Jesus Christ, and the gift given to us through the Holy Spirit.
What you have done is taken Trinitarian scripture and accepted it as Unitarian.

You might as well be Jewish...
 
Jan 11, 2013
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Are you talking about the people that didnt answer his question with grey matter?:p
You don't getbit do you
the main difference between people on these websites(on the whole, not all) and the vast majority in churches is, that those in church who would never dream of coming on these websites don't spend most of their lives discussing head theology, and reading up hugely of the pre trib rapture, revelation, Babylon, ontological/economic trinity/osas, the noahide laws etc, because they don't make a god of head theology driven by the little grey calls

Hence, they are far closer to the most important doctrine than many on these websites.
They don't condemn people in most instances for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth

Many on these websites have been trapped by the ego of the little grey calls
 
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Mark 54, what denomination are you? I'm Pentecostal, and not ashamed of it. I'm hoping that you're not ashamed either.
 
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Mark 54, what denomination are you? I'm Pentecostal, and not ashamed of it. I'm hoping that you're not ashamed either.
I was brought up in Pentecostal churches myself and spent over twenty years in them
Never once was it stated from the pulpit(and I heard a lot of sermons) that Christ is God Himself. And the only requiremnt unto salvation that was EVER MADE was that a person believe Jesus is the son of God(in regard to who he must be believed to be)

That is the utter truth as a friend of mine who went to the same church/es confirmed to me a short time ago
 
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One God in hypostases: God the Father, God the Son (e.g. Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature".

The Athanasian Creed stated it like this, "That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal."


One of the simplest ways to understand the trinity is. Its God in three places at the same time, not three gods. God existing as the Father, Jesus, and Holy Spirit all at the same time. Thats where we get the word persons, its God existing at 3 different places with different tasks all at the same time. Holy Spirit fills the believer, Jesus is God in flesh, and the Father who created the heavens and earth. Is not God able to do anything and everything? So why debate that God cant be in three different places as three different people all at the same time? Three in One my friends...
 
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You don't getbit do you
the main difference between people on these websites(on the whole, not all) and the vast majority in churches is, that those in church who would never dream of coming on these websites don't spend most of their lives discussing head theology, and reading up hugely of the pre trib rapture, revelation, Babylon, ontological/economic trinity/osas, the noahide laws etc, because they don't make a god of head theology driven by the little grey calls

Hence, they are far closer to the most important doctrine than many on these websites.
They don't condemn people in most instances for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth

Many on these websites have been trapped by the ego of the little grey calls
Really? What are you doing here then? Trying to join the club? If you really believe what you're saying, you wouldn't be here in the first place. Unless, you be one of those........ just sayin'
 
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Nice try mark. but im not upset, not making untruthful claims, nor am i attacking you. I do notice that
as a tactic of those experienced in debate. Just isnt true.

Ive answered your question many time.....another tactic mark. denial. and request i go away.
yawn
You have let yourself down in this debate Abiding, as you have in the above post also. I am, genuinely sorry this has happened
 
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