What is the Messianic Kingdom?

[eternally-gratefull]

That understanding of separation in God's one people (one olive tree) is taken from uncertain private interpretation of prophetic riddles.

It is not found in the teaching of the apostles, which is Jesus revelation (Heb 10:1-2) given through them, and is in fact contrary to the unity of all God's people henceforth which the NT reveals.

get off your private interpretation crap will ya? God gave us all the HS and we ALl have the ability to interpret scripture. God did not leave it to the POPE

Romans 11 is all the proof we need.

Isreal is our enemy until the age of the gentile is complete.
But beloeved because of the promises.

why? when the age of the gentile is complete. ALL isreal will be saved.

Your private interpretation does not fit!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

whatchu think British-Israelism is for
and turned into

oh well....sunny and mild

wow.. I better go.. This crap is for the birds.. And you call yourself a christian?? I will be honest with you sis.. When you say crap like this. I wonder!

One time I made a comment believe your faith came from anti-semetism (your belief system not your yourself) and you got pissed and went off the deep end..

yet you continually make snide remarks like this.. Your a hypocrite!

 

[Elin]

but, what happens when it gets to 1000+1?

If they're all by Abiding, I'll be happy!

 

[zone]

wow.. I better go.. This crap is for the birds.. And you call yourself a christian?? I will be honest with you sis.. When you say crap like this. I wonder!

One time I made a comment believe your faith came from anti-semetism (your belief system not your yourself) and you got pissed and went off the deep end..

yet you continually make snide remarks like this.. Your a hypocrite!

whatever are you on about?
you're not British-Israelism, so what's your issue?
are you?

why so defensive?
you can hold to millennialism if you want to.
believe ancient Israel exists today if you want to.
all that Land stuff too.

its' your life.

and i couldn't care less anymore about the antisemitic thing.
it's all from the same source.

~

sunny and mild, no chance of showers today

get mad if you want EG.
it's not me you're mad at.
even if it is, what should i do?

 

[Abiding]

WHAT? did you not read what I posted.

funny you go off on a bunch of other passages, but do not respond to the very passages I posted.. why is this?? I try to do this for you guys, but for someone reason, I never get the same courtesy.. Just snide remarks. a long page of which has nothing to do with what was posted.. why is this?

lets try again..or is this too hard??

What does scripture say about the davidic covenant? and davids throne?

2 Sam 7: 10 I will also appoint a place for My people Israel and will plant them, that they may live in their own place and not be disturbed again, nor will the wicked afflict them any more as formerly,
11 even from the day that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel; and I will give you rest from all your enemies. The Lord also declares to you that the Lord will make a house for you. 12 When your days are complete and you lie down with your fathers, I will raise up your [c]descendant after you, who will come forth from [d]you, and I will establish his kingdom.

Ez 37: 24 “My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd; and they will walk in My ordinances and keep My statutes and observe them. 25 They will live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant, in which your fathers lived; and they will live on it, they, and their sons and their sons’ sons, forever; and David My servant will be their prince forever. 26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will [h]place them and multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in their midst forever. 27 My dwelling place also will be with them; and I will be their God, and they will be My people. 28 And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.”’”

Look at ez 37. can it be eternity he is talking about ( a new heaven and new earth?) no.. why?? he said he will multilply them. There will be no more childbirth in heaven,, He said all the nations will know he is God.. in eternity, everyone already knew he was god. that is what got them there in the first place. those who never figure this out, are in hell at that time.. so it has to be a temporal thing on earth.

What did God say would happen?

1 Samuel, David is promised Isreal will be given their land back. Will live in peace. Will no longer fear their enemy.
2. In ez (the prophetic fulfilment shown) They will no longer live in rebellion against God (Isreal) They will live in the land God gave Jacob (not heaven, but the land of canaan) You know. the SAME LAND THEIR FATHERS LIVE IN?? He will place them and multiply them. And the nations (gentiles) will know Jesus is the Lord over all.

Land is not in the Hebrew. Most say dwelling(eze 27:35). EG i cant answer to every script you post.

Im not saying those are referring to the eternal state only. Remember 1000 is not eternal. this is
talking about both the church age and eternity.

Ez 37 But I will save them from all the backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

Texts that show the progression of Ez 37 above and completed in Christ.
Genesis 17:1-8 Exodus 6:1-8 Exodus 29:42-46 Leviticus 26:40-45
Ruth 1:15-16 II Samuel 7:4-16 Jeremiah 7:21-26 Jeremiah 11:1-5 Jeremiah 24:1-7
Jeremiah 30:8-22 Jeremiah 31:1-3 Jeremiah 31:31-34 Jeremiah 32:36-42
Ezekiel 11:14-21 Ezekiel 14:1-11 Ezekiel 34:11-30 Ezekiel 36:22-32
Ezekiel 37:11-28 Hosea 1:6-11 Hosea 2:16-23 Zechariah 8:1-8 ​Zechariah 13:7-9

Romans 9:19-26—“You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can
resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say
to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to
make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?
What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with
much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches
of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory—even us
whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? As indeed he says
in Hosea, “Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’ and her who was not
beloved I will call ‘beloved.’ And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not
my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.”


II Corinthians 6:14-7:1—“Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what
partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with
darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with
an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple
of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among
them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their
midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will
welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
says the Lord Almighty.” Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves

Hebrews 8:6-13—“But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more
excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better
promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion
to look for a second. For he finds fault with them when he says: Behold, the days are
coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers
on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they
did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares
the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be
their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall not teach, each one his neighbor
and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest. For I will be merciful toward their iniquities,
and I will remember their sins no more.”In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first
one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.”



Revelation 21:1-7—“Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and
the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new
Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her
husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of
God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself
will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death
shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the
former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I
am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are
trustworthy and true.” And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the
beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without
payment. The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will
be my son.”

Im lazy and know its not good to make long posts. But im amazed how many things Jesus
said and the book of Hebrews interpreted them to mean that are not seen.
Example: come unto me and i will give you rest.....labor to enter into that rest...etc

 

[Abiding]

Excuse me, It has never been about salvation. Unless you believe the jews, who were NATURAL descendants of Abraham were not only given the land, but eternal life at the same time.

Why go to gen 3: 15? that has nothing to do with the promise given to abraham, Issac and Jacob.!!

gen 3: 15 is the promise which saved many people before the abrahamic covenant was even given.. Your correct. that is about salvation. Most of the covenant made with abraham was not.

We are saved by believing genesis 3: 15. we are not saved by believing "in you shall all th enations of the world be blessed (which is salvic in nature as to who it applies to Christ) and t you and your descendants after you I give th eland of canaan as an ETERNAL PROMISE between me, you and your seed.

Nothing salvic there./. why do you make it salvic??

I went to genesis to get a starting point. EG i may stop posting to you. Your spinning out
and getting angry

 

[Abiding]

whatever are you on about?
you're not British-Israelism, so what's your issue?
are you?

why so defensive?
you can hold to millennialism if you want to.
believe ancient Israel exists today if you want to.
all that Land stuff too.

its' your life.

and i couldn't care less anymore about the antisemitic thing.
it's all from the same source.

~

sunny and mild, no chance of showers today

get mad if you want EG.
it's not me you're mad at.
even if it is, what should i do?

the fruit of the Spirit is self control...ok but Lord i so want to put up just one "Lutheran satire" vid

 

[Elin]

get off your private interpretation crap will ya?
God gave us all the HS and we ALl have the ability to interpret scripture.

Well, since the Holy Spirit is the author of Scripture, he will not interpret it contrary to Scripture.

A future earthly temporal Messianic kingdom is contrary to apostolic teaching, and is derived from uncertain private interpretation of prophetic riddles.

God did not leave it to the POPE.

How did the Pope get into this?

Don't blame it on him.

At least the Pope interprets prophecy in the light of apostolic teaching.

Romans 11 is all the proof we need.

Isreal is our enemy until the age of the gentile is complete.
But beloeved because of the promises.

Unbelieving Israel is not the people of God.

No one who rejects Christ is part of the people of God.

There is only one people of God, the believing Jews and believing Gentiles together.

why? when the age of the gentile is complete. ALL isreal will be saved.

"IF they do not persist in unbelief." (Ro 11:23)

Your private interpretation does not fit!

Apostolic teaching is not private interpretation, that's the domain of prophetic riddles.

And I do not subsribe to uncertain interpretation of prophetic riddles.

 

[Abiding]

Ones "uncertain interpretation of prophetic riddles" is anothers "gobledegoop"

 

[Pilgrimer]

yes, the truth is knowable.. but it does not mean everyone knows it.

scripture says there will be a time when everyone knows it.. I look for that day, you state it will not happen.. Thats to bad.

eternally-grateful, I think you need a major shift in your perspective. Many of the conditions you are talking about, a world where everyone will know God and be obedient to Him and there will be no more sin and rebellion, those conditions will not come until the new heavens and new earth, after the final judgment when all the wicked are cast into the lake of fire. That's when the whole world will know and serve God and there will be no more sin. But only those who are saved in this present world will enter that new world and enjoy the blissful conditions you are trying to force into this old sick, sin-weary world.

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

 

[zone]

the fruit of the Spirit is self control...ok but Lord i so want to put up just one "Lutheran satire" vid

pm it to me.
i can handle it

plus - ireland is quite lovely.
all green and stuff.

 

[Pilgrimer]

Why thank you for proving the jews are still blind to the gospel because of their unbelief.

I have always thought it most strange that dispensationalists are so quick to condemn the Jews for their blind loyalty to an earthly messianic king and kingdom of their own vain imagination while at the same time those same dispensationalists believe in the very same thing.

Then again, Paul said this would happen, until the age of the gentile has been completed.. So you are not showing us anything new, in fact your proving Paul is correct.

Now lets look forward to that day when ALL Isreal will be saved as their blindness is removed. and the whole world (jew and gentil alike) see and know the Lord Jesus in all his glory.

Then again, you say this day is not coming. What little hope this world has if you are right!

Of course I cannot speak for zone, but no one is saying that a "day is not coming" when the whole world will see and know the Lord Jesus in all his glory ... we just believe that blessed day will not be one that the wicked and those who hate Jesus will live to see and enjoy in some messianic kingdom of men's imagination. That day will not come until the Lord returns and the wicked are cast into the lake of fire and there is a new heaven and a new earth. THEN those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life will live to see Jesus in all His Glory ... face to face.

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

 

[Pilgrimer]

But scripture says some things on this earth and in history are relegated to jew, and some to gentile.. this is the aspect you all are ignoring.

The only thing "relegated" to the Jews was that they were chosen by God to be the people through whom God would bring to pass His Plan of Salvation. That Plan has come to pass, their purpose has been served, and now they stand before God on equal footing with gentiles ... sinners in need of salvation.

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

 

[Abiding]

​So where is the Land? Where is Canaan?

‘So I declared on oath in My anger, they shall not enter My rest'(Psalm 95:11).

Hebrews 4:1-11: “Therefore, since the promise of entering His rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. For we also have had the gospel preached to us (Christians), just as they(Israel); but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith.. Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,

“And yet H​is work has been finished since the creation of he world. For somewhere He has spoken about the seventh day in these words: `And on the seventh day God rested from all His work'

‘Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.'
40 years they wondered in the desert. Jesus gave them 40 years from His preaching and Jerusalem was destroyed.
‘So I declared on oath in My anger, they shall not enter My rest'(Psalm 95:11).
For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains then, a rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from His. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest so that no one will fall by following their example of disobedience.”

‘Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.'o the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Wheres canaan?

[SUP]8 [/SUP]By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]For our God is a consuming fire.


[SUP]16 [/SUP]But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

 

[Pilgrimer]

The problem with the jews in Christ day, and even today is they do not see it, that is why they are blind, they think they got an automatic in by their laws. and heritage..

Actually, that's not what the Scripture teaches. What has blinded the Jews to the Gospel is precisely what zone posted, their blind loyalty to a messiah and a missianic kingdom of their own vain interpretation of prophecy, a hyper-literal interpretation that does not allow for a heavenly king or a heavenly kingdom but like Esau of old, who was willing to sell his birthright in heaven for a mess of pottage.

It is the letter of the Law that has blinded the Jews ...

"the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

 

[Abiding]

Gentiles who dont believe are also blind also and theres no difference!

[SUP]Rom 11:21 [/SUP]For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

2 thess 2 [SUP]11 [/SUP]And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[SUP]12 [/SUP]That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


"This, then, is the judgment: The light has come into the world, and people loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil. For everyone who practices wicked things hates the light and avoids it, so that his deeds may not be exposed. But anyone who lives by the truth comes to the light, so that his works may be shown to be accomplished by God." Joh 3:19-21

I hope this can take the spin off. No respecter of persons, but of faith.

 

[Abiding]

but, what happens when it gets to 1000+1?

gog/magog?

 

[nathan3]

Just so you know.. Revelations showed they are still 3. 5 years..So I have no clue what your talking about.

Rev 13: 5
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue[SUP][a][/SUP] for forty-two months.

Did you bother to read them ? ?? (Revelation 9:5; Matthew 24:22 ). It is nothing I said, its what these verses say..

I know it says 42 months. But Christ said He shorted that time in Matthew 24:22. Rev. 9:5 shows to what it was shorted to. thats all im saying. Im repeating verbatim what the verses say. So i adjust that time based on Christ own teaching. Not mine.

 

[Elin]

It is both. . .the Roman empire, and a type of Satan's kingdom opposed to the kingdom of God.

babylon was a literal kingdom. Media perisa was a literal kingdom. Greece and alexander were literal kingdoms and kings. Rom was an actual kingdom... So why do you want to go to a "typology" interpretation?

Because so much of prophecy is bi-level, with a literal fulfillment, and then a fulfillment of the symbolism in the literal fulfillment.

Mt 24 would be an example of bi-level prophecy.

Daniel's dream of 7:1-14 is interpreted in 7:17 to refer to four earthly kingdoms, in contrast to the kingdom of God in 2:44.

In contrast? the kingdom of God in 2: 44 destroys those "5" kingdoms, and sets up his own.,

where do you get the compair contrast thing?

The fifth kingdom is the eternal kingdom of God (2:44) built on the ruins of the sinful empires of man.
Its authority will extend over the whole earth (v.35, "filled the whole earth"), and ultimately over a new heaven and a new earth (Rev 21:1).

And the contrast is in 7:17-18.

Those four kingdoms were fulfilled in

• the Babylonian empire ending in 539 BC,
• the Medo-Persia empire ending in 330 BC,
• the Grecian empire ending in 63 BC,
• and the Roman empire, which ruled 10 kingdoms (v.24): Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Britain, Samartia, Pannonia, Asia, Greece and Egypt.

lol.. Babylon ruled many kingdoms. Ad did Media persia. As did greece as did rome.. so
why are you trying to use this as an interpretation of the ten kings?

Because nothing is stated about ten kingdoms coming from the other beasts (v.24).

The Roman empire could also be a type of the kingdom of Satan,

• the kingdom of Satan, opposed to the kingdom of God in 2:44,
• the beast (vv. 23-24) also found in Rev 12, 13, 17,
• the little horn of Da 7:8 who was Julius Caesar, a type of the anti-Christ, and who changed the set times (v.25) by adding days to the calendar, and
• the king of Da 11:36-45.

Rome was one kingdom (iron) in the itme of Christ and AD 70.

then scripture said that would split into Iron and clay. The iron and clay FOLLOWS the iron

The head of gold was the Babylonian empire.
The chest and arms of silver were the Medo-Persian empire.
The belly and thighs of bronze (not iron) were the Grecian empire.
The legs of iron and the feet of clay were the Roman empire.

Daniel gives the meaning of the iron and clay mixture:
"And just as you saw iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay." (2:43)

That describes the 10 peoples of the Roman empire.

Actually, the text does not state 3 1/2 years, but "time, times and half a time."

3 1/2 years is simply uncertain private interpretation, and the expression can be interpreted in more than one way.
It could be a symbolic expression for the fullness of time.

In both Da (7:26) and Rev (19:19-21), as well as in 2Th 1:6-7, all referring to the second coming of Christ,
the persecution of the holy ones is terminated by the coming of Messiah.

1) Gal 4:4 and Mk 1:15 tell us the the first coming of Christ was in the fulness of time.
2) Eph 1:10 tells us that the second coming of Messiah will be in the fullnes of time.
3) And Jesus tells us in Mt 24:36, Ac 1:7 that this time is known only in the secret counsels of God (Dt 29:29).

So the expression is not necessarily a literal 3 1/2 years (as Rev 4:5 is not literal), but could be an amount of time known only to God,

• which the narrative accounts call the "fullness of time" (Mk 1:15; Gal 4:4; Eph 1:10),
• which prophecy calls "time, times and half a time" (Da 7:25, 12:7; Rev 12:14),
• and which Jesus says is unknowable (Mt 24:36; Ac 1:7).

God informed Aaron and Miriam that he gave prophecies in "dark sayings (riddles)" to all prophets but Moses, to whom he spoke clearly and not in dark sayings (riddles). (Nu 12:6-8)

"Time, times and half a time" could be a riddle for fullness of time.

(1 time X 2 times X 1/2 time = time, unknowable and the fullness of time

(1 X 2 X 1/2 = 1)

Because prophetic riddles can be understood in more than one way and, therefore, private interpretation of them is uncertain, I do not take my understanding of Scripture from prophetic riddles, but only from what is clear and certain in the word of God.

A future earthly temporal Messianic kingdom is taken from private interpretation of prophetic riddles, whose meaning is not certain, and which private interpretations contradict was is clear and certain in the word of God.

Again.

Jesus came literally when prophesied
he was killed literally as prophesied
babylon came literal. as did media and persia and greece.. Just the way God said they would to daniel in literal interpretation.
Rome did also.. so should we not interpret the rest of the prophesy literally? where do we get off allegorizing prophesy?? because it doe snot fit our belief?

Scripture itself explains the symbolism of prophecies in Da 2, 4, 7, 8; Eze 12, 15, 16, 17, 23, 24, 31, 37; Rev 12, 13, 17.

All prophecy is not literal.

And private interpretation? are you roman catholic?? who made you God?

Any interpretation not given by Scripture itself, as presented in the previous response, is private interpretation and is not certain because it can be interpreted more than one way, and we don't know which of the interpretations is correct, if any.

Unknowable future time? God tells us
3 1/2 years
1/2 of one week
42 months
time time and half a time
1260 days

all prophesies go together and give us a literal time of 3.5 jewish years.. And you say it is my private interpretaion?? wow

Yes, private uncertain interpretation because Scripture does not state that "time, times and half a time" are any of these.

That is not a certain Scriptural interpretation as are Daniel's interpretations, but is a private uncertain interpretation, as are the interpretations of a future earthly temporal Messianic kingdom.

 

[Elin]

gog/magog?

har-de har har!