What is the Messianic Kingdom?
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Ok Elin. One big point i hear made is that God has to give the land
back or He is a liar. Even tho its forgotten somehow they havnt had it
for 2000 yrs and still dont for the most part. Aside from that, the view
of the land being a separate covenant is the foundation for some they
lay the whole premil view on.
So if you have more to say on that. That would be neato
back or He is a liar. Even tho its forgotten somehow they havnt had it
for 2000 yrs and still dont for the most part. Aside from that, the view
of the land being a separate covenant is the foundation for some they
lay the whole premil view on.
So if you have more to say on that. That would be neato
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Ok Elin. One big point i hear made is that God has to give the land
back or He is a liar. Even tho its forgotten somehow they havnt had it
for 2000 yrs and still dont for the most part. Aside from that, the view
of the land being a separate covenant is the foundation for some they
lay the whole premil view on.
So if you have more to say on that. That would be neato
back or He is a liar. Even tho its forgotten somehow they havnt had it
for 2000 yrs and still dont for the most part. Aside from that, the view
of the land being a separate covenant is the foundation for some they
lay the whole premil view on.
So if you have more to say on that. That would be neato
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No, it had nothing to do with Christ. Where does this belief come from. I ask, because I have never seen this before.
second. the land promise was not conditional. If we study the traditions of the Day in Abraham's region. A covenant was made between two people, they both walked down inbetween the carcasses. it meant the covenant was binding as long as both sides met their agreement, If one side broke the agreement, then the whole agreement was cancelled. (theother side did nt have to continue (this is a conditional covenant)
When God made this covenant, he put abraham in a deep sleep. and he himself walked in between the carcases.
In other words, it is a "I WILL" covenant based on God alone,., or unconditional covenant.
The mosaic law brought in the condition by which they were allowed to LIVE in THERE land, or be removed, but the land is still theres.. Lev 26 tells them what they have to do to be returned to their land..
second. the land promise was not conditional. If we study the traditions of the Day in Abraham's region. A covenant was made between two people, they both walked down inbetween the carcasses. it meant the covenant was binding as long as both sides met their agreement, If one side broke the agreement, then the whole agreement was cancelled. (theother side did nt have to continue (this is a conditional covenant)
When God made this covenant, he put abraham in a deep sleep. and he himself walked in between the carcases.
In other words, it is a "I WILL" covenant based on God alone,., or unconditional covenant.
The mosaic law brought in the condition by which they were allowed to LIVE in THERE land, or be removed, but the land is still theres.. Lev 26 tells them what they have to do to be returned to their land..
Yep. . .because the Roman kingdom was also a type of Satan's kingdom.
The literal prophecy of the fall of Rome was fulfilled.
It's symbolic fulfillment is in Christ's kingdom overthrowing Satan's kingdom.
No problem exists with the time frame in this prophecy.
That's a nice revision and minimization of the NT record of Israel's unbelief.
Your chronology is a little confused.
Where in the gospels did Jesus tell the Jewish nation they were to give the gospel to the Gentiles?
The Mosaic laws of defilement separated the Jews from the Gentiles.
Those defilement laws were not set aside (Heb 7:18-19) until Jesus' Jewish enemies had him killed by the Romans.
God's judgment on Israel's unbelief was not because it kept them from giving the gospel to the Gentiles.
God judgment on unbelieving Israel was about rejecting his Messiah,
which is the reason why they are still under God's judgment of blindness today.
The literal prophecy of the fall of Rome was fulfilled.
It's symbolic fulfillment is in Christ's kingdom overthrowing Satan's kingdom.
No problem exists with the time frame in this prophecy.
That's a nice revision and minimization of the NT record of Israel's unbelief.
Your chronology is a little confused.
Where in the gospels did Jesus tell the Jewish nation they were to give the gospel to the Gentiles?
The Mosaic laws of defilement separated the Jews from the Gentiles.
Those defilement laws were not set aside (Heb 7:18-19) until Jesus' Jewish enemies had him killed by the Romans.
God's judgment on Israel's unbelief was not because it kept them from giving the gospel to the Gentiles.
God judgment on unbelieving Israel was about rejecting his Messiah,
which is the reason why they are still under God's judgment of blindness today.
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This is not true. God did not tell abraham as long as you (or your peopple) do this. I will do that. He said I GIVE this land to you..
They kept going into captivity and were judged based on the mosaic covenant., Which God said this land is yours. as long as you do this, I will let you live there. If not.. i will remove you from YOUR LAND. but if you repent, i will let you back in.
Lev 26:
[SUP]40 [/SUP]‘If they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their forefathers, in their unfaithfulness which they committed against Me, and also in their acting with hostility against Me— [SUP]41 [/SUP]I also was acting with hostility against them, to bring them into the land of their enemies—or if their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled so that they then make amends for their iniquity, [SUP]42 [/SUP]then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and I will remember also My covenant with Isaac, and My covenant with Abraham as well, and I WILL REMEMBER THE LAND!
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Yet in spite of this, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them, nor will I so abhor them as to destroy them, BREAKING MY COVENANT WITH THEM; for I am the Lord their God. [SUP]45 [/SUP]But I WILL REMEMBER FOR THEM the COVENANT WITH THEIR ANCESTORS, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God. I am the Lord.’”
I think you miss the point here/ Again your trying to make a symbol of something scripture does not say was a symbol.
God said, I GIVE YOU AND YOUR DESCENDANTS AFTER YOU THIS LAND as an ETERNAL INHERITANCE.
It was not heavenly land, he even spelled it out where and what it was.. If God breaks this promise. What is to keep God from breaking his promise to us?
It does not mean God must give them the land back if they do not repent, Lev 26 shows what they must do to get it back.. And you want to sit here and tell me if All Isreal gets saved, by repenting and recieveing Christ. God will not remember his covenant with Abraham Isaac and Jacob and return them to THERE land??
sorry, i can not buy this.
They kept going into captivity and were judged based on the mosaic covenant., Which God said this land is yours. as long as you do this, I will let you live there. If not.. i will remove you from YOUR LAND. but if you repent, i will let you back in.
Lev 26:
[SUP]40 [/SUP]‘If they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their forefathers, in their unfaithfulness which they committed against Me, and also in their acting with hostility against Me— [SUP]41 [/SUP]I also was acting with hostility against them, to bring them into the land of their enemies—or if their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled so that they then make amends for their iniquity, [SUP]42 [/SUP]then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and I will remember also My covenant with Isaac, and My covenant with Abraham as well, and I WILL REMEMBER THE LAND!
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Yet in spite of this, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them, nor will I so abhor them as to destroy them, BREAKING MY COVENANT WITH THEM; for I am the Lord their God. [SUP]45 [/SUP]But I WILL REMEMBER FOR THEM the COVENANT WITH THEIR ANCESTORS, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God. I am the Lord.’”
I think you miss the point here/ Again your trying to make a symbol of something scripture does not say was a symbol.
God said, I GIVE YOU AND YOUR DESCENDANTS AFTER YOU THIS LAND as an ETERNAL INHERITANCE.
It was not heavenly land, he even spelled it out where and what it was.. If God breaks this promise. What is to keep God from breaking his promise to us?
It does not mean God must give them the land back if they do not repent, Lev 26 shows what they must do to get it back.. And you want to sit here and tell me if All Isreal gets saved, by repenting and recieveing Christ. God will not remember his covenant with Abraham Isaac and Jacob and return them to THERE land??
sorry, i can not buy this.
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You missed my whole point.
IF all of the covenant of abraham, As ZONE DEMANDS, speaks of salvation and is salvic in nature. Then ALL Isreal is saved, no matter if they recieve Christ or not.
IF however, it was just a land covenant, and promises of blessings HERE ON EARTH to them, then it is not salvic in nature, and zones defense and arguments fall on their face.
IF all of the covenant of abraham, As ZONE DEMANDS, speaks of salvation and is salvic in nature. Then ALL Isreal is saved, no matter if they recieve Christ or not.
IF however, it was just a land covenant, and promises of blessings HERE ON EARTH to them, then it is not salvic in nature, and zones defense and arguments fall on their face.
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I disagree. Because the future mellenial kingdom according to Scripture has Isreal being repentant. Returned to her land, and king david sitting on his throne in Jerusalem ruling the world.. and the whole world coming and worshiping him.
This is the basis of the future millenium. People do not want to believe it, because they do not want to believe God will forgive Isreal when they repent, or that they will even repent. which is something I can not fathom people would believe!
No, it is a whole world following God, Isreal in her land, Gentiles in their land, Peace on earth.. Who said it is two peoples. Salvation has never been two poeples. it has always been one family.
Which I have said over and over.. but that was not the only aspect of the covenant, It was just the only salvic aspect (had to deal with our salvation)
forgive me, But they make it salvic. They state the future kingdom will not come, because salvation is the future kingdom..
It is them, not me, who makes it a salvation issue,, They both even laughed at me and mocked when when i stated it was not salvic in nature. so
The messianic kingdom is the fifth kingdom of Da 2:44, which endures forever.
It was set up during the time of the fourth king, the Roman empire which conquered the Greek empire (2:39; 8:31), at Christ's first coming.
The kingdom Christ set up during the Roman empire endures forever.
There is not another future earthly Messianic kingdom to come,
nor is one found in apostolic teaching.
It was set up during the time of the fourth king, the Roman empire which conquered the Greek empire (2:39; 8:31), at Christ's first coming.
The kingdom Christ set up during the Roman empire endures forever.
There is not another future earthly Messianic kingdom to come,
nor is one found in apostolic teaching.
please EG
don't misrepresent what i'm saying.
just have some room to grow into other possibilities, is my suggestion.
after 70AD certain ppl didn't want to admit that what they had was gone.
so an alternate system was devised.
just consider it. everything in the world might make more sense
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Jesus is King NOW.
The Land is the world (this age) and the eternal Kingdom (the age to come).
Paul changed land to world ya know
anyways, is this true, in Joshua? (and they possessed it again under David and Solomon).
"Not one word of all the good promises that the LORD had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass."
Joshua 21
Cities and Pasturelands Allotted to Levi
1Then the heads of the fathers’ houses of the Levites came to Eleazar the priest and to Joshua the son of Nun and to the heads of the fathers’ houses of the tribes of the people of Israel. 2And they said to them at Shiloh in the land of Canaan, “The LORD commanded through Moses that we be given cities to dwell in, along with their pasturelands for our livestock.” 3So by command of the LORD the people of Israel gave to the Levites the following cities and pasturelands out of their inheritance.
4The lot came out for the clans of the Kohathites. So those Levites who were descendants of Aaron the priest received by lot from the tribes of Judah, Simeon, and Benjamin, thirteen cities.
5And the rest of the Kohathites received by lot from the clans of the tribe of Ephraim, from the tribe of Dan and the half-tribe of Manasseh, ten cities.
6The Gershonites received by lot from the clans of the tribe of Issachar, from the tribe of Asher, from the tribe of Naphtali, and from the half-tribe of Manasseh in Bashan, thirteen cities.
7The Merarites according to their clans received from the tribe of Reuben, the tribe of Gad, and the tribe of Zebulun, twelve cities.
8These cities and their pasturelands the people of Israel gave by lot to the Levites, as the LORD had commanded through Moses.
9Out of the tribe of the people of Judah and the tribe of the people of Simeon they gave the following cities mentioned by name, 10which went to the descendants of Aaron, one of the clans of the Kohathites who belonged to the people of Levi; since the lot fell to them first. 11They gave them Kiriath-arba (Arba being the father of Anak), that is Hebron, in the hill country of Judah, along with the pasturelands around it. 12But the fields of the city and its villages had been given to Caleb the son of Jephunneh as his possession.
13And to the descendants of Aaron the priest they gave Hebron, the city of refuge for the manslayer, with its pasturelands, Libnah with its pasturelands, 14Jattir with its pasturelands, Eshtemoa with its pasturelands, 15Holon with its pasturelands, Debir with its pasturelands, 16Ain with its pasturelands, Juttah with its pasturelands, Beth-shemesh with its pasturelands—nine cities out of these two tribes; 17then out of the tribe of Benjamin, Gibeon with its pasturelands, Geba with its pasturelands, 18Anathoth with its pasturelands, and Almon with its pasturelands—four cities. 19The cities of the descendants of Aaron, the priests, were in all thirteen cities with their pasturelands.
20As to the rest of the Kohathites belonging to the Kohathite clans of the Levites, the cities allotted to them were out of the tribe of Ephraim. 21To them were given Shechem, the city of refuge for the manslayer, with its pasturelands in the hill country of Ephraim, Gezer with its pasturelands, 22Kibzaim with its pasturelands, Beth-horon with its pasturelands—four cities; 23and out of the tribe of Dan, Elteke with its pasturelands, Gibbethon with its pasturelands, 24Aijalon with its pasturelands, Gath-rimmon with its pasturelands—four cities; 25and out of the half-tribe of Manasseh, Taanach with its pasturelands, and Gath-rimmon with its pasturelands—two cities. 26The cities of the clans of the rest of the Kohathites were ten in all with their pasturelands.
27And to the Gershonites, one of the clans of the Levites, were given out of the half-tribe of Manasseh, Golan in Bashan with its pasturelands, the city of refuge for the manslayer, and Beeshterah with its pasturelands—two cities; 28and out of the tribe of Issachar, Kishion with its pasturelands, Daberath with its pasturelands, 29Jarmuth with its pasturelands, En-gannim with its pasturelands—four cities; 30and out of the tribe of Asher, Mishal with its pasturelands, Abdon with its pasturelands, 31Helkath with its pasturelands, and Rehob with its pasturelands—four cities; 32and out of the tribe of Naphtali, Kedesh in Galilee with its pasturelands, the city of refuge for the manslayer, Hammoth-dor with its pasturelands, and Kartan with its pasturelands—three cities. 33The cities of the several clans of the Gershonites were in all thirteen cities with their pasturelands.
34And to the rest of the Levites, the Merarite clans, were given out of the tribe of Zebulun, Jokneam with its pasturelands, Kartah with its pasturelands, 35Dimnah with its pasturelands, Nahalal with its pasturelands—four cities; 36and out of the tribe of Reuben, Bezer with its pasturelands, Jahaz with its pasturelands, 37Kedemoth with its pasturelands, and Mephaath with its pasturelands—four cities; 38and out of the tribe of Gad, Ramoth in Gilead with its pasturelands, the city of refuge for the manslayer, Mahanaim with its pasturelands, 39Heshbon with its pasturelands, Jazer with its pasturelands—four cities in all. 40As for the cities of the several Merarite clans, that is, the remainder of the clans of the Levites, those allotted to them were in all twelve cities.
41The cities of the Levites in the midst of the possession of the people of Israel were in all forty-eight cities with their pasturelands. 42These cities each had its pasturelands around it. So it was with all these cities.
43Thus the LORD gave to Israel all the land that he swore to give to their fathers. And they took possession of it, and they settled there. 44And the LORD gave them rest on every side just as he had sworn to their fathers. Not one of all their enemies had withstood them, for the LORD had given all their enemies into their hands. 45Not one word of all the good promises that the LORD had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass.
okay? so temporal land promise was a TYPE.
it was real, they did possess it, just like God said they would.
but is that really the ETERNAL Promise?
how can a Land Promise be eternal when this world is going to be folded/burned up?
it can't be.
so what did Abraham believe about the LAND? we ought to believe what our Father Abraham believed - on all counts.
like, it's just super-clear here:
Hebrews 11
8By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9By faith he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise. 10For he was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God. 11By faith Sarah herself received power to conceive, even when she was past the age, since she considered him faithful who had promised. 12Therefore from one man, and him as good as dead, were born descendants as many as the stars of heaven and as many as the innumerable grains of sand by the seashore.
13These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14For people who speak thus make it clear that they are seeking a homeland. 15If they had been thinking of that land from which they had gone out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.
that's why it's here....for the Hebrews to understand the LAND is temporary.
this whole world is.
how could it say Abraham received the land, but then it says he didn't receive the things promised?
why does it say lived in the land of promise but wasn't really considering that his inheritance or home?
"they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one."
if ppl today claim Abraham for their father ought they not to be desiring what he did?
don't misrepresent what i'm saying.
just have some room to grow into other possibilities, is my suggestion.
after 70AD certain ppl didn't want to admit that what they had was gone.
so an alternate system was devised.
just consider it. everything in the world might make more sense
~
Jesus is King NOW.
The Land is the world (this age) and the eternal Kingdom (the age to come).
Paul changed land to world ya know
anyways, is this true, in Joshua? (and they possessed it again under David and Solomon).
"Not one word of all the good promises that the LORD had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass."
Joshua 21
Cities and Pasturelands Allotted to Levi
1Then the heads of the fathers’ houses of the Levites came to Eleazar the priest and to Joshua the son of Nun and to the heads of the fathers’ houses of the tribes of the people of Israel. 2And they said to them at Shiloh in the land of Canaan, “The LORD commanded through Moses that we be given cities to dwell in, along with their pasturelands for our livestock.” 3So by command of the LORD the people of Israel gave to the Levites the following cities and pasturelands out of their inheritance.
4The lot came out for the clans of the Kohathites. So those Levites who were descendants of Aaron the priest received by lot from the tribes of Judah, Simeon, and Benjamin, thirteen cities.
5And the rest of the Kohathites received by lot from the clans of the tribe of Ephraim, from the tribe of Dan and the half-tribe of Manasseh, ten cities.
6The Gershonites received by lot from the clans of the tribe of Issachar, from the tribe of Asher, from the tribe of Naphtali, and from the half-tribe of Manasseh in Bashan, thirteen cities.
7The Merarites according to their clans received from the tribe of Reuben, the tribe of Gad, and the tribe of Zebulun, twelve cities.
8These cities and their pasturelands the people of Israel gave by lot to the Levites, as the LORD had commanded through Moses.
9Out of the tribe of the people of Judah and the tribe of the people of Simeon they gave the following cities mentioned by name, 10which went to the descendants of Aaron, one of the clans of the Kohathites who belonged to the people of Levi; since the lot fell to them first. 11They gave them Kiriath-arba (Arba being the father of Anak), that is Hebron, in the hill country of Judah, along with the pasturelands around it. 12But the fields of the city and its villages had been given to Caleb the son of Jephunneh as his possession.
13And to the descendants of Aaron the priest they gave Hebron, the city of refuge for the manslayer, with its pasturelands, Libnah with its pasturelands, 14Jattir with its pasturelands, Eshtemoa with its pasturelands, 15Holon with its pasturelands, Debir with its pasturelands, 16Ain with its pasturelands, Juttah with its pasturelands, Beth-shemesh with its pasturelands—nine cities out of these two tribes; 17then out of the tribe of Benjamin, Gibeon with its pasturelands, Geba with its pasturelands, 18Anathoth with its pasturelands, and Almon with its pasturelands—four cities. 19The cities of the descendants of Aaron, the priests, were in all thirteen cities with their pasturelands.
20As to the rest of the Kohathites belonging to the Kohathite clans of the Levites, the cities allotted to them were out of the tribe of Ephraim. 21To them were given Shechem, the city of refuge for the manslayer, with its pasturelands in the hill country of Ephraim, Gezer with its pasturelands, 22Kibzaim with its pasturelands, Beth-horon with its pasturelands—four cities; 23and out of the tribe of Dan, Elteke with its pasturelands, Gibbethon with its pasturelands, 24Aijalon with its pasturelands, Gath-rimmon with its pasturelands—four cities; 25and out of the half-tribe of Manasseh, Taanach with its pasturelands, and Gath-rimmon with its pasturelands—two cities. 26The cities of the clans of the rest of the Kohathites were ten in all with their pasturelands.
27And to the Gershonites, one of the clans of the Levites, were given out of the half-tribe of Manasseh, Golan in Bashan with its pasturelands, the city of refuge for the manslayer, and Beeshterah with its pasturelands—two cities; 28and out of the tribe of Issachar, Kishion with its pasturelands, Daberath with its pasturelands, 29Jarmuth with its pasturelands, En-gannim with its pasturelands—four cities; 30and out of the tribe of Asher, Mishal with its pasturelands, Abdon with its pasturelands, 31Helkath with its pasturelands, and Rehob with its pasturelands—four cities; 32and out of the tribe of Naphtali, Kedesh in Galilee with its pasturelands, the city of refuge for the manslayer, Hammoth-dor with its pasturelands, and Kartan with its pasturelands—three cities. 33The cities of the several clans of the Gershonites were in all thirteen cities with their pasturelands.
34And to the rest of the Levites, the Merarite clans, were given out of the tribe of Zebulun, Jokneam with its pasturelands, Kartah with its pasturelands, 35Dimnah with its pasturelands, Nahalal with its pasturelands—four cities; 36and out of the tribe of Reuben, Bezer with its pasturelands, Jahaz with its pasturelands, 37Kedemoth with its pasturelands, and Mephaath with its pasturelands—four cities; 38and out of the tribe of Gad, Ramoth in Gilead with its pasturelands, the city of refuge for the manslayer, Mahanaim with its pasturelands, 39Heshbon with its pasturelands, Jazer with its pasturelands—four cities in all. 40As for the cities of the several Merarite clans, that is, the remainder of the clans of the Levites, those allotted to them were in all twelve cities.
41The cities of the Levites in the midst of the possession of the people of Israel were in all forty-eight cities with their pasturelands. 42These cities each had its pasturelands around it. So it was with all these cities.
43Thus the LORD gave to Israel all the land that he swore to give to their fathers. And they took possession of it, and they settled there. 44And the LORD gave them rest on every side just as he had sworn to their fathers. Not one of all their enemies had withstood them, for the LORD had given all their enemies into their hands. 45Not one word of all the good promises that the LORD had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass.
okay? so temporal land promise was a TYPE.
it was real, they did possess it, just like God said they would.
but is that really the ETERNAL Promise?
how can a Land Promise be eternal when this world is going to be folded/burned up?
it can't be.
so what did Abraham believe about the LAND? we ought to believe what our Father Abraham believed - on all counts.
like, it's just super-clear here:
Hebrews 11
8By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9By faith he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise. 10For he was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God. 11By faith Sarah herself received power to conceive, even when she was past the age, since she considered him faithful who had promised. 12Therefore from one man, and him as good as dead, were born descendants as many as the stars of heaven and as many as the innumerable grains of sand by the seashore.
13These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14For people who speak thus make it clear that they are seeking a homeland. 15If they had been thinking of that land from which they had gone out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.
that's why it's here....for the Hebrews to understand the LAND is temporary.
this whole world is.
how could it say Abraham received the land, but then it says he didn't receive the things promised?
why does it say lived in the land of promise but wasn't really considering that his inheritance or home?
"they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one."
if ppl today claim Abraham for their father ought they not to be desiring what he did?
And Da 2 and 7 show that the Messianic kingdom comes during the Roman empire, and it shows that this Messianic kingdom endures forever (Da 2:44).
And in Rev 7, in addition to being prophetic riddles whose private interpretation is uncertain, there is no mention of a future temporal Messianic kingdom.
Da 2 and Da 7 also show the fourth kingdom, Rome, which is also a type of Satan's kingdom, destroyed by the fifth kingdom of God set up during the Roman empire, which would be at Christ's first coming, and which fifth kingdom endures forever.
Both the literal and the typical fulfillment of Daniel's prophecies of an everlasting Messianic kingdom which endures forever were fulfilled during the Roman empire at the first coming of Christ.
Since that Messianic kingdom endures forever (Da 2:44), there will be no future temporal Messianic kingdom.
And in Rev 7, in addition to being prophetic riddles whose private interpretation is uncertain, there is no mention of a future temporal Messianic kingdom.
Da 2 and Da 7 also show the fourth kingdom, Rome, which is also a type of Satan's kingdom, destroyed by the fifth kingdom of God set up during the Roman empire, which would be at Christ's first coming, and which fifth kingdom endures forever.
Both the literal and the typical fulfillment of Daniel's prophecies of an everlasting Messianic kingdom which endures forever were fulfilled during the Roman empire at the first coming of Christ.
Since that Messianic kingdom endures forever (Da 2:44), there will be no future temporal Messianic kingdom.
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Israel in her land?
so.....is Jesus in Jerusalem?
as a gentile christian, do i have to travel the earth and pass by jews in the great city who are different from i am in the not-eternal 1,000 years Kingdom?
or will Jesus travel throughout so we all get a fair shot?
you just MADE it about two people EG.
by separating jews and gentiles again!
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Israel in her land?
so.....is Jesus in Jerusalem?
as a gentile christian, do i have to travel the earth and pass by jews in the great city who are different from i am in the not-eternal 1,000 years Kingdom?
or will Jesus travel throughout so we all get a fair shot?
you just MADE it about two people EG.
by separating jews and gentiles again!
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
