Dual Covenant Theology
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here we go again.. Do you like hashing the same ole lies over and over? Are you ever going to admit you have no clue what I believe?
1. Jew die in unbelief. there is no more land for him to get.. thus your argument is off base and has no merit.
2. Unbelieving jew will NEVER be returned to her land and receive ALL That God said they would get if they obey him and listen to him and him alone (even when it comes to Christ). Which I have been trying to show you, but you refuse to listen to it. You heard 1 comment, took it out of context., twisted it into your own false truth, and claimed you will never be my friend again..
Yep this is how christians should act.
So anyway! I have no clue what your babbling about.. You continue to say things which go contrary to my belief, and claim I believe them, Your wrong. You don't know what I believe, so do us all a favor, and stop telling everyone you know. because if you knew what I believed, you would make arguments based on actual things I believe.
when you figure out what I believe, come talk to me,, then MAYBE we can discuss things.. Until then, your false accusations against me are just that, False accusations.
1. Jew die in unbelief. there is no more land for him to get.. thus your argument is off base and has no merit.
2. Unbelieving jew will NEVER be returned to her land and receive ALL That God said they would get if they obey him and listen to him and him alone (even when it comes to Christ). Which I have been trying to show you, but you refuse to listen to it. You heard 1 comment, took it out of context., twisted it into your own false truth, and claimed you will never be my friend again..
Yep this is how christians should act.
So anyway! I have no clue what your babbling about.. You continue to say things which go contrary to my belief, and claim I believe them, Your wrong. You don't know what I believe, so do us all a favor, and stop telling everyone you know. because if you knew what I believed, you would make arguments based on actual things I believe.
when you figure out what I believe, come talk to me,, then MAYBE we can discuss things.. Until then, your false accusations against me are just that, False accusations.
if i had a nickel for every time you used this cop-out i'd be rich.
i know what you believe.
you believe SATAN (or some other demonic figure) confirms the Covenant in Daniel 9.
applying the work of Jesus Christ for His people to the devil.
because you gotta get some LAND deal in there.
and you have no idea how you came to adopt such a belief that allows for what goes on today.
i know what you believe.
so does everyone else.
i know what you believe.
you believe SATAN (or some other demonic figure) confirms the Covenant in Daniel 9.
applying the work of Jesus Christ for His people to the devil.
because you gotta get some LAND deal in there.
and you have no idea how you came to adopt such a belief that allows for what goes on today.
i know what you believe.
so does everyone else.
this is my thread, it's about Two Covenants and Two Peoples.
you're on my thread.
you explained what you believe a thousand times.
you believe there are Two people and Two Covenants (but yours is Land and nothing to do with salvation,,,ya that makes sense), you believe the same junk ellis believes, with a twist - you bail when the heat's on.
jews who believe get what everyone else gets! - eternal life with The Lord.
what Land Rubbish?
oh no.....we'll vote this way and that way and send money guns and horses because we got suckered by Scofield.
but we'll say we didn't...we tweaked it so we don't have to admit it.
and jews will be killed and gentiles will be killed AND CHRISTIANS will be killed because we think this is the GOSPEL.
and i'm supposedly the antisemite.
when you utter ethnic cleansing of any kind and claim the Name of Jesus i am against you.
you're on my thread.
you explained what you believe a thousand times.
you believe there are Two people and Two Covenants (but yours is Land and nothing to do with salvation,,,ya that makes sense), you believe the same junk ellis believes, with a twist - you bail when the heat's on.
jews who believe get what everyone else gets! - eternal life with The Lord.
what Land Rubbish?
oh no.....we'll vote this way and that way and send money guns and horses because we got suckered by Scofield.
but we'll say we didn't...we tweaked it so we don't have to admit it.
and jews will be killed and gentiles will be killed AND CHRISTIANS will be killed because we think this is the GOSPEL.
and i'm supposedly the antisemite.
when you utter ethnic cleansing of any kind and claim the Name of Jesus i am against you.
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ok.. You finally got one thing right.. He does. For 1 week.. Why you think God confirmed a covenant for only 7 years. then commits the abomination of desolation himself is beyond me.. But that is not what we are talking about here is it?
work for his people? wow,, since when is comiting an abomination and breaking his own covenant the work of God..
Nope I do not have to get some land deal. Dan 9 is nothing about a land deal, it is about the people of Isreal repenting of her sin, just like daniel prayed for.
lol. My belief does not allow what goes on today, Your perverted form of what I believe does.
Your belief killed jews for hundreds of years. i guess that is ok?? My belief does not kill anyone!
You have no idea what I believe, and you prove it everytime you claim to know it and I have to correct you on what you think I believe,,
and everyone knows it!
work for his people? wow,, since when is comiting an abomination and breaking his own covenant the work of God..
Nope I do not have to get some land deal. Dan 9 is nothing about a land deal, it is about the people of Isreal repenting of her sin, just like daniel prayed for.
lol. My belief does not allow what goes on today, Your perverted form of what I believe does.
Your belief killed jews for hundreds of years. i guess that is ok?? My belief does not kill anyone!
You have no idea what I believe, and you prove it everytime you claim to know it and I have to correct you on what you think I believe,,
and everyone knows it!
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Yes I am,, And I voted No, I have said over and over I do not believe it, I supported you in what you said about this dual covenant of lies.. and you in turn attacked me and made false accusations against me.. So you tell me,, whose fault is it we are doing this now?
and you still don't get it.. sad!
lol.. I believe what God said,, if you don;t like it, talk to God.. God said his GIFTS are irrevocable. not me.. thats all on you!
I believe in one covenant. one salvation. one way to heaven. always has been, always will be. there is no other covenant under heaven where which ALL men from adam to the last man alive MUST BE SAVED!
Yet God made many covenants with people whihc had nothing to do with salvation. you try to combine them all and make them one, ALL dealing with salvation..
Your as bad as the jews who think they get an automatic in, because THEY TO MISREPRESENT the covenant.
yep. and I never stated otherwise.
lol.. here you go with false accusations again.. Maybe I should report you for making false claims?
Your people KILLED jews in the name of God.. This we know to be fact. Does this mean I should call you a murderer?? No. because I know (hope) you do not believe we should.
any more than you should know by now I DO NOT SUPPORT THE CRAP YOU SAY I DO!
We do? where? God said he would punish all evil. not me.. Why do you deny God will kill all evil?? Are you afraid?? of what? you should not be afraid. your supposed to be saved, this would not affect you. Although with your attitide the last few days, I am begining to wonder.
If you had an open mind and read your postings, you would think you were too..
well when I utter ethnic cleaning of any kind,, you have a valid argument, But since I have never uttered such a thing. again you have no basis of fact, only the fiction of your mind.
God will destroy evil. Not ethnic cultures. Anyone not saved at that time will be taken care of. Only HE WHO ENDURES TO THE END WILL BE SAVED (those saved by the blood of Christ) NO MATTER WHAT ETHNIC BACKGROUND THEY BELONG TO.. Jews, Gentiles Americans, Palestinians, Germans, Brits.. you name it, if they are saved, they will be saved, if they are not. they will suffer the wrath of God (at that time)
You don't like it, yell at God, but leave me out of it!
and you still don't get it.. sad!
lol.. I believe what God said,, if you don;t like it, talk to God.. God said his GIFTS are irrevocable. not me.. thats all on you!
I believe in one covenant. one salvation. one way to heaven. always has been, always will be. there is no other covenant under heaven where which ALL men from adam to the last man alive MUST BE SAVED!
Yet God made many covenants with people whihc had nothing to do with salvation. you try to combine them all and make them one, ALL dealing with salvation..
Your as bad as the jews who think they get an automatic in, because THEY TO MISREPRESENT the covenant.
yep. and I never stated otherwise.
lol.. here you go with false accusations again.. Maybe I should report you for making false claims?
Your people KILLED jews in the name of God.. This we know to be fact. Does this mean I should call you a murderer?? No. because I know (hope) you do not believe we should.
any more than you should know by now I DO NOT SUPPORT THE CRAP YOU SAY I DO!
We do? where? God said he would punish all evil. not me.. Why do you deny God will kill all evil?? Are you afraid?? of what? you should not be afraid. your supposed to be saved, this would not affect you. Although with your attitide the last few days, I am begining to wonder.
If you had an open mind and read your postings, you would think you were too..
well when I utter ethnic cleaning of any kind,, you have a valid argument, But since I have never uttered such a thing. again you have no basis of fact, only the fiction of your mind.
God will destroy evil. Not ethnic cultures. Anyone not saved at that time will be taken care of. Only HE WHO ENDURES TO THE END WILL BE SAVED (those saved by the blood of Christ) NO MATTER WHAT ETHNIC BACKGROUND THEY BELONG TO.. Jews, Gentiles Americans, Palestinians, Germans, Brits.. you name it, if they are saved, they will be saved, if they are not. they will suffer the wrath of God (at that time)
You don't like it, yell at God, but leave me out of it!
forget it.
you wear that stuff.
your system has everything to do with salvation.
the loss of it for so many.
only God knows how many people you've taught this to.
but you will not listen...at all.
so it's on you.
Jesus died for all sins, i'd repent of all that false teaching if i was you.
and that's all i have to say about that.
you wear that stuff.
your system has everything to do with salvation.
the loss of it for so many.
only God knows how many people you've taught this to.
but you will not listen...at all.
so it's on you.
Jesus died for all sins, i'd repent of all that false teaching if i was you.
and that's all i have to say about that.
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In that day“I will restore David’s fallen shelter—
I will repair its broken walls
and restore its ruins—
and will rebuild it as it used to be,
[SUP]12 [/SUP]so that they may possess the remnant of Edom
and all the nations that bear my name,[SUP][e][/SUP]”
declares the Lord, who will do these things.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman
and the planter by the one treading grapes.
New wine will drip from the mountains
and flow from all the hills,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] and I will bring my people Israel back from exile.[SUP][f][/SUP]
“They will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I will plant Israel in their own land,
Never again to be uprooted
From the land I have given them
says the Lord
Israel will be brought back from exile, God will plant them
in their own land, Which land? When did this happen?
What's the problem, its written as clear as day.
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them,”
I will repair its broken walls
and restore its ruins—
and will rebuild it as it used to be,
[SUP]12 [/SUP]so that they may possess the remnant of Edom
and all the nations that bear my name,[SUP][e][/SUP]”
declares the Lord, who will do these things.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman
and the planter by the one treading grapes.
New wine will drip from the mountains
and flow from all the hills,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] and I will bring my people Israel back from exile.[SUP][f][/SUP]
“They will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I will plant Israel in their own land,
Never again to be uprooted
From the land I have given them
says the Lord
Israel will be brought back from exile, God will plant them
in their own land, Which land? When did this happen?
What's the problem, its written as clear as day.
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them,”
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Hold on: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
"He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"
From Jesus baptism to the stoning of Peter, while only the gospel went out to the Jews
(which in fact is what and who the vision was for, its explained in v. [SUP]4 [/SUP]And I prayed unto the Lord my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments
was one week. Then the Gentiles came in.
First of all did Jesus have a covenant to confirm? Yes he did and the New Testament records it
Hebrews 8:10-13
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Romans 15:8
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises(covenant) made unto the fathers:
2 cor 1:[SUP]20 [/SUP]For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
Someone show me where satan has any kind of covenant to "confirm" Establish, complete?
Show me anywhere in v.27 satan is mentioned.
Where anywhere in the bible does it talk of satan making a covenant?
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News flash Jesus came already and is sitting on Davids throne:
Acts 15
12The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the miraculous signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13When they finished, James spoke up: “Brothers, listen to me. 14Simon[SUP]a[/SUP] has described to us how God at first showed his concern by taking from the Gentiles a people for himself.
15The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:16“‘After this I will returnand rebuild David’s fallen tent.Its ruins I will rebuild,and I will restore it,17that the remnant of men may seek the Lord,and all the Gentiles who bear my name,says the Lord, who does these things’[SUP]b[/SUP]18that have been known for ages.[SUP]c
Fulfilled OK?[/SUP]
Then I will purify the lips of the peoples,
that all of them may call on the name of the Lord
and serve him shoulder to shoulder.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]From beyond the rivers of Cush[SUP][d][/SUP]
my worshipers, my scattered people,
will bring me offerings.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]On that day you, Jerusalem, will not be put to shame
for all the wrongs you have done to me,
because I will remove from you
your arrogant boasters.
Never again will you be haughty
on my holy hill.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But I will leave within you
the meek and humble.
The remnant of Israel
will trust in the name of the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]They will do no wrong;
they will tell no lies.
A deceitful tongue
will not be found in their mouths.
They will eat and lie down
and no one will make them afraid.” [SUP]14 [/SUP]Sing, Daughter Zion;
shout aloud, Israel!
Be glad and rejoice with all your heart,
Daughter Jerusalem!
[SUP]15 [/SUP]The Lord has taken away your punishment,
he has turned back your enemy.
The Lord, the King of Israel, is with you;
never again will you fear any harm.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]On that day
they will say to Jerusalem,
“Do not fear, Zion;
do not let your hands hang limp.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]The Lord your God is with you,
the Mighty Warrior who saves.
He will take great delight in you;
in his love he will no longer rebuke you,
but will rejoice over you with singing.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“I will remove from you
all who mourn over the loss of your appointed festivals,
which is a burden and reproach for you.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]At that time I will deal
with all who oppressed you.
I will rescue the lame;
I will gather the exiles.
I will give them praise and honor
in every land where they have suffered shame.
[SUP]20[/SUP]At that time I will gather you;
at that time I will bring you home.
I will give you honor and praise
among all the peoples of the earth
when I restore your fortunes[SUP][e][/SUP]
before your very eyes,”
says the Lord.
Was the above 766 BC as well?
that all of them may call on the name of the Lord
and serve him shoulder to shoulder.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]From beyond the rivers of Cush[SUP][d][/SUP]
my worshipers, my scattered people,
will bring me offerings.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]On that day you, Jerusalem, will not be put to shame
for all the wrongs you have done to me,
because I will remove from you
your arrogant boasters.
Never again will you be haughty
on my holy hill.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But I will leave within you
the meek and humble.
The remnant of Israel
will trust in the name of the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]They will do no wrong;
they will tell no lies.
A deceitful tongue
will not be found in their mouths.
They will eat and lie down
and no one will make them afraid.” [SUP]14 [/SUP]Sing, Daughter Zion;
shout aloud, Israel!
Be glad and rejoice with all your heart,
Daughter Jerusalem!
[SUP]15 [/SUP]The Lord has taken away your punishment,
he has turned back your enemy.
The Lord, the King of Israel, is with you;
never again will you fear any harm.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]On that day
they will say to Jerusalem,
“Do not fear, Zion;
do not let your hands hang limp.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]The Lord your God is with you,
the Mighty Warrior who saves.
He will take great delight in you;
in his love he will no longer rebuke you,
but will rejoice over you with singing.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“I will remove from you
all who mourn over the loss of your appointed festivals,
which is a burden and reproach for you.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]At that time I will deal
with all who oppressed you.
I will rescue the lame;
I will gather the exiles.
I will give them praise and honor
in every land where they have suffered shame.
[SUP]20[/SUP]At that time I will gather you;
at that time I will bring you home.
I will give you honor and praise
among all the peoples of the earth
when I restore your fortunes[SUP][e][/SUP]
before your very eyes,”
says the Lord.
Was the above 766 BC as well?
I will strengthen Judah
and save the tribes of Joseph.
I will restore them
because I have compassion on them.
They will be as though
I had not rejected them,
for I am the Lord their God
and I will answer them.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The Ephraimites will become like warriors,
and their hearts will be glad as with wine.
Their children will see it and be joyful;
their hearts will rejoice in the Lord.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]I will signal for them
and gather them in.
Surely I will redeem them;
they will be as numerous as before.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Though I scatter them among the peoples,
yet in distant lands they will remember me.
They and their children will survive,
and they will return.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]I will bring them back from Egypt
and gather them from Assyria.
I will bring them to Gilead and Lebanon,
and there will not be room enough for them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]They will pass through the sea of trouble;
the surging sea will be subdued
and all the depths of the Nile will dry up.
Assyria’s pride will be brought down
and Egypt’s scepter will pass away.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]I will strengthen them in the Lord
and in his name they will live securely,”
declares the Lord.
And this 766 BC?
and save the tribes of Joseph.
I will restore them
because I have compassion on them.
They will be as though
I had not rejected them,
for I am the Lord their God
and I will answer them.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The Ephraimites will become like warriors,
and their hearts will be glad as with wine.
Their children will see it and be joyful;
their hearts will rejoice in the Lord.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]I will signal for them
and gather them in.
Surely I will redeem them;
they will be as numerous as before.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Though I scatter them among the peoples,
yet in distant lands they will remember me.
They and their children will survive,
and they will return.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]I will bring them back from Egypt
and gather them from Assyria.
I will bring them to Gilead and Lebanon,
and there will not be room enough for them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]They will pass through the sea of trouble;
the surging sea will be subdued
and all the depths of the Nile will dry up.
Assyria’s pride will be brought down
and Egypt’s scepter will pass away.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]I will strengthen them in the Lord
and in his name they will live securely,”
declares the Lord.
And this 766 BC?
In those days and at that time,
when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]I will gather all nations
and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.[SUP][b][/SUP]
There I will put them on trial
for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel,
because they scattered my people among the nations
and divided up my land.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]They cast lots for my people
and traded boys for prostitutes;
they sold girls for wine to drink. [SUP]4 [/SUP]“Now what have you against me, Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples.[SUP][c][/SUP] [SUP]6 [/SUP]You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, that you might send them far from their homeland.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]“See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. [SUP]8 [/SUP]I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away.” The Lord has spoken.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Proclaim this among the nations:
Prepare for war!
Rouse the warriors!
Let all the fighting men draw near and attack.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Beat your plowshares into swords
and your pruning hooks into spears.
Let the weakling say,
“I am strong!”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Come quickly, all you nations from every side,
and assemble there.
Bring down your warriors, Lord!
[SUP]12 [/SUP]“Let the nations be roused;
let them advance into the Valley of Jehoshaphat,
for there I will sit
to judge all the nations on every side.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Swing the sickle,
for the harvest is ripe.
Come, trample the grapes,
for the winepress is full
and the vats overflow—
so great is their wickedness!”
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Multitudes, multitudes
in the valley of decision!
For the day of the Lord is near
in the valley of decision.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]The sun and moon will be darkened,
and the stars no longer shine.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]The Lord will roar from Zion
and thunder from Jerusalem;
the earth and the heavens will tremble.
But the Lord will be a refuge for his people,
a stronghold for the people of Israel.
[h=3]Blessings for God’s People[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]“Then you will know that I, the Lord your God,
dwell in Zion, my holy hill.
Jerusalem will be holy;
never again will foreigners invade her.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“In that day the mountains will drip new wine,
and the hills will flow with milk;
all the ravines of Judah will run with water.
A fountain will flow out of the Lord’s house
and will water the valley of acacias.[SUP][d][/SUP]
[SUP]19 [/SUP]But Egypt will be desolate,
Edom a desert waste,
because of violence done to the people of Judah,
in whose land they shed innocent blood.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Judah will be inhabited forever
and Jerusalem through all generations.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Shall I leave their innocent blood unavenged?
No, I will not.”
The Lord dwells in Zion!
And did the above happen in 766 BC also?
when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]I will gather all nations
and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.[SUP][b][/SUP]
There I will put them on trial
for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel,
because they scattered my people among the nations
and divided up my land.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]They cast lots for my people
and traded boys for prostitutes;
they sold girls for wine to drink. [SUP]4 [/SUP]“Now what have you against me, Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples.[SUP][c][/SUP] [SUP]6 [/SUP]You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, that you might send them far from their homeland.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]“See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. [SUP]8 [/SUP]I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away.” The Lord has spoken.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Proclaim this among the nations:
Prepare for war!
Rouse the warriors!
Let all the fighting men draw near and attack.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Beat your plowshares into swords
and your pruning hooks into spears.
Let the weakling say,
“I am strong!”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Come quickly, all you nations from every side,
and assemble there.
Bring down your warriors, Lord!
[SUP]12 [/SUP]“Let the nations be roused;
let them advance into the Valley of Jehoshaphat,
for there I will sit
to judge all the nations on every side.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Swing the sickle,
for the harvest is ripe.
Come, trample the grapes,
for the winepress is full
and the vats overflow—
so great is their wickedness!”
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Multitudes, multitudes
in the valley of decision!
For the day of the Lord is near
in the valley of decision.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]The sun and moon will be darkened,
and the stars no longer shine.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]The Lord will roar from Zion
and thunder from Jerusalem;
the earth and the heavens will tremble.
But the Lord will be a refuge for his people,
a stronghold for the people of Israel.
[h=3]Blessings for God’s People[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]“Then you will know that I, the Lord your God,
dwell in Zion, my holy hill.
Jerusalem will be holy;
never again will foreigners invade her.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“In that day the mountains will drip new wine,
and the hills will flow with milk;
all the ravines of Judah will run with water.
A fountain will flow out of the Lord’s house
and will water the valley of acacias.[SUP][d][/SUP]
[SUP]19 [/SUP]But Egypt will be desolate,
Edom a desert waste,
because of violence done to the people of Judah,
in whose land they shed innocent blood.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Judah will be inhabited forever
and Jerusalem through all generations.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Shall I leave their innocent blood unavenged?
No, I will not.”
The Lord dwells in Zion!
And did the above happen in 766 BC also?
you folks just love to slip right by the Promise Fulfilled.
and you're going to answer for it Mark.
there's left undone but Judgement Day.
Joel 2:32
And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the LORD has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the LORD calls.
Acts 2:21
The Coming of the Holy Spirit
1When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. 2And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. 3And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and resteda on each one of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. 7And they were amazed and astonished, saying, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? 9Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, 11both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” 12And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “What does this mean?” 13But others mocking said, “They are filled with new wine.”
Peter’s Sermon at Pentecost
14But Peter, standing with the eleven, lifted up his voice and addressed them: “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and give ear to my words. 15For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.b 16But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
17 “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
18 even on my male servantsc and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
19 And I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke;
20 the sun shall be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood,
before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day.
21 And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.’
22“Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— 23this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. 24God raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it. 25For David says concerning him,
“‘I saw the Lord always before me,
for he is at my right hand that I may not be shaken;
26 therefore my heart was glad, and my tongue rejoiced;
my flesh also will dwell in hope.
27 For you will not abandon my soul to Hades,
or let your Holy One see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will make me full of gladness with your presence.’
29“Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne, 31he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. 32This Jesus God raised up, and of that we all are witnesses. 33Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing. 34For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says,
“‘The Lord said to my Lord,
Sit at my right hand,
35 until I make your enemies your footstool.’
36Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
37Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
The Fellowship of the Believers
42And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. 43And awed came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. 44And all who believed were together and had all things in common. 45And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. 46And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, 47praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.
and you're going to answer for it Mark.
there's left undone but Judgement Day.
Joel 2:32
And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the LORD has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the LORD calls.
Acts 2:21
The Coming of the Holy Spirit
1When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. 2And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. 3And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and resteda on each one of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. 7And they were amazed and astonished, saying, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? 9Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, 11both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” 12And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “What does this mean?” 13But others mocking said, “They are filled with new wine.”
Peter’s Sermon at Pentecost
14But Peter, standing with the eleven, lifted up his voice and addressed them: “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and give ear to my words. 15For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.b 16But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
17 “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
18 even on my male servantsc and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
19 And I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke;
20 the sun shall be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood,
before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day.
21 And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.’
22“Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— 23this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. 24God raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it. 25For David says concerning him,
“‘I saw the Lord always before me,
for he is at my right hand that I may not be shaken;
26 therefore my heart was glad, and my tongue rejoiced;
my flesh also will dwell in hope.
27 For you will not abandon my soul to Hades,
or let your Holy One see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will make me full of gladness with your presence.’
29“Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne, 31he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. 32This Jesus God raised up, and of that we all are witnesses. 33Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing. 34For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says,
“‘The Lord said to my Lord,
Sit at my right hand,
35 until I make your enemies your footstool.’
36Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
37Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
The Fellowship of the Believers
42And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. 43And awed came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. 44And all who believed were together and had all things in common. 45And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. 46And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, 47praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.
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where do you think your belief came from.
What I believe comes from many years of study of scripture. not words of men.. but again, you can't see this. ps. I did not buy anything, and I don;t own anything, God owns his truth.
lol. Thanks. And here I thought we believes in the same gospel. I guess not. I guess according to you ammilenialism is the true gospel, all others are going to hell. Thanks for showing us your true self.
What I believe comes from many years of study of scripture. not words of men.. but again, you can't see this. ps. I did not buy anything, and I don;t own anything, God owns his truth.
lol. Thanks. And here I thought we believes in the same gospel. I guess not. I guess according to you ammilenialism is the true gospel, all others are going to hell. Thanks for showing us your true self.