A Mormon, a Catholic, and a Jehovah Witness would say Jesus died for their sin.
It's a different jesus, different death, different grace.
I will add pelagians and arminians to that list.
A Mormon, a Catholic, and a Jehovah Witness would say Jesus died for their sin.
It's a different jesus, different death, different grace.
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HUH????
what Land Promise?
any idea what the Promise is?
jews die in unbelief but get LAND.
here we go again.. Do you like hashing the same ole lies over and over? Are you ever going to admit you have no clue what I believe?
here we go again.. Do you like hashing the same ole lies over and over? Are you ever going to admit you have no clue what I believe?
1. Jew die in unbelief. there is no more land for him to get.. thus your argument is off base and has no merit.
2. Unbelieving jew will NEVER be returned to her land and receive ALL That God said they would get if they obey him and listen to him and him alone (even when it comes to Christ). Which I have been trying to show you, but you refuse to listen to it. You heard 1 comment, took it out of context., twisted it into your own false truth, and claimed you will never be my friend again..
Yep this is how christians should act.
So anyway! I have no clue what your babbling about.. You continue to say things which go contrary to my belief, and claim I believe them, Your wrong. You don't know what I believe, so do us all a favor, and stop telling everyone you know. because if you knew what I believed, you would make arguments based on actual things I believe.
when you figure out what I believe, come talk to me,, then MAYBE we can discuss things.. Until then, your false accusations against me are just that, False accusations.
if i had a nickel for every time you used this cop-out i'd be rich.
i know what you believe.
you believe SATAN (or some other demonic figure) confirms the Covenant in Daniel 9.
applying the work of Jesus Christ for His people to the devil.
Nope I do not have to get some land deal. Dan 9 is nothing about a land deal, it is about the people of Isreal repenting of her sin, just like daniel prayed for.because you gotta get some LAND deal in there.
and you have no idea how you came to adopt such a belief that allows for what goes on today.
i know what you believe.
so does everyone else.
Your belief killed jews for hundreds of years. i guess that is ok??
this is my thread, it's about Two Covenants and Two Peoples.
you're on my thread.
you explained what you believe a thousand times.
you believe there are Two people and Two Covenants (but yours is Land and nothing to do with salvation,,,ya that makes sense), you believe the same junk ellis believes, with a twist - you bail when the heat's on.
yep. and I never stated otherwise.jews who believe get what everyone else gets! - eternal life with The Lord.
what Land Rubbish?
oh no.....we'll vote this way and that way and send money guns and horses because we got suckered by Scofield.
but we'll say we didn't...we tweaked it so we don't have to admit it.
and jews will be killed and gentiles will be killed AND CHRISTIANS will be killed because we think this is the GOSPEL.
and i'm supposedly the antisemite.
when you utter ethnic cleansing of any kind and claim the Name of Jesus i am against you.
grow up EG.
get with the program.
you've been lied to and duped.
go study history.
or something.
I did. The church and the belief you claim to be from God killed jews, and muslims for years, and called it a holy war.
you think what the muslims are doing to day is new?? we got no one to blame but ourselves. because we did the same thing to them!
I believe in one covenant. one salvation. one way to heaven. always has been, always will be. there is no other covenant under heaven where which ALL men from adam to the last man alive MUST BE SAVED!
Yet ......God made many covenants with people whihc had nothing to do with salvation. you try to combine them all and make them one, ALL dealing with salvation..
Your as bad as the jews who think they get an automatic in, because THEY TO MISREPRESENT the covenant.
In that day“I will restore David’s fallen shelter—
I will repair its broken walls
and restore its ruins—
and will rebuild it as it used to be,
[SUP]12 [/SUP]so that they may possess the remnant of Edom
and all the nations that bear my name,[SUP][e][/SUP]”
declares the Lord, who will do these things.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman
and the planter by the one treading grapes.
New wine will drip from the mountains
and flow from all the hills,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] and I will bring my people Israel back from exile.[SUP][f][/SUP]
“They will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I will plant Israel in their own land,
Never again to be uprooted
From the land I have given them
says the Lord
Israel will be brought back from exile, God will plant them
in their own land, Which land? When did this happen?
What's the problem, its written as clear as day.
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them,”
ok.. You finally got one thing right.. He does. For 1 week.. Why you think God confirmed a covenant for only 7 years. then commits the abomination of desolation himself is beyond me.. But that is not what we are talking about here is it?
work for his people? wow,, since when is comiting an abomination and breaking his own covenant the work of God..
Nope I do not have to get some land deal. Dan 9 is nothing about a land deal, it is about the people of Isreal repenting of her sin, just like daniel prayed for.
lol. My belief does not allow what goes on today, Your perverted form of what I believe does.
Your belief killed jews for hundreds of years. i guess that is ok?? My belief does not kill anyone!
You have no idea what I believe, and you prove it everytime you claim to know it and I have to correct you on what you think I believe,,
and everyone knows it!
In that day“I will restore David’s fallen shelter—
I will repair its broken walls
and restore its ruins—
and will rebuild it as it used to be,
[SUP]12 [/SUP]so that they may possess the remnant of Edom
and all the nations that bear my name,[SUP][e][/SUP]”
declares the Lord, who will do these things.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman
and the planter by the one treading grapes.
New wine will drip from the mountains
and flow from all the hills,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] and I will bring my people Israel back from exile.[SUP][f][/SUP]
“They will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I will plant Israel in their own land,
Never again to be uprooted
From the land I have given them
says the Lord
Israel will be brought back from exile, God will plant them
in their own land, Which land? When did this happen?
What's the problem, its written as clear as day.
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them,”
Then I will purify the lips of the peoples,c 766 BC
uprooted again or not?
Then I will purify the lips of the peoples,
that all of them may call on the name of the Lord
and serve him shoulder to shoulder.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]From beyond the rivers of Cush[SUP][d][/SUP]
my worshipers, my scattered people,
will bring me offerings.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]On that day you, Jerusalem, will not be put to shame
for all the wrongs you have done to me,
because I will remove from you
your arrogant boasters.
Never again will you be haughty
on my holy hill.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But I will leave within you
the meek and humble.
The remnant of Israel
will trust in the name of the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]They will do no wrong;
they will tell no lies.
A deceitful tongue
will not be found in their mouths.
They will eat and lie down
and no one will make them afraid.” [SUP]14 [/SUP]Sing, Daughter Zion;
shout aloud, Israel!
Be glad and rejoice with all your heart,
Daughter Jerusalem!
[SUP]15 [/SUP]The Lord has taken away your punishment,
he has turned back your enemy.
The Lord, the King of Israel, is with you;
never again will you fear any harm.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]On that day
they will say to Jerusalem,
“Do not fear, Zion;
do not let your hands hang limp.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]The Lord your God is with you,
the Mighty Warrior who saves.
He will take great delight in you;
in his love he will no longer rebuke you,
but will rejoice over you with singing.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“I will remove from you
all who mourn over the loss of your appointed festivals,
which is a burden and reproach for you.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]At that time I will deal
with all who oppressed you.
I will rescue the lame;
I will gather the exiles.
I will give them praise and honor
in every land where they have suffered shame.
[SUP]20[/SUP]At that time I will gather you;
at that time I will bring you home.
I will give you honor and praise
among all the peoples of the earth
when I restore your fortunes[SUP][e][/SUP]
before your very eyes,”
says the Lord.
Was the above 766 BC as well?
rubbish.
don't place me in the RC church.
you bought dispensationalism, you own it.
figure out where it came from is my suggestion.
half a gospel is no gospel at all.