Dual Covenant Theology

[zone]

1. Your right. i did know, but I was not going to back down while she was lieing about me.
2. I did it to show the world she continues to misrepresent what I believe.

if that is wrong,, then i bow out..

but anyone who can condone what she did.. i just wonder!

it is no different than some of our calvanist threads.. and you should know this.

do bow out.
i never lied about you at all.

you will not listen to anyone.

this is my thread.
start your own EG.

 

[Abiding]

But Mark is not interested in a theological discussion over all of this from a human perspective, he freely admits that doesn't interest me one bit, I will happily admit Abiding you would know far, far, more than me the ins and outs as to how it practcally worked out Isreal becoming a nation, I only want to know one thing, who you believe was ultimatelty responsible for it happening, that's it

Do you want a teaching on the balfour declaration? or of the zionists movement?
If you want me to say its biblical and prophecied id disagree, but if you want me
to say it couldnt happen without God being in charge id agree. I actually dont know
what you want to hear from me. You use the word "ultimately" So Id say God and Satan
till you get more specific.

 

[zone]

I am not finding fault with anyone else studying the subject as much as they wish to

unless they come to a different conclusion than you do Mark.

 

[mark54]

Do you want a teaching on the balfour declaration? or of the zionists movement?
If you want me to say its biblical and prophecied id disagree, but if you want me
to say it couldnt happen without God being in charge id agree. I actually dont know
what you want to hear from me. You use the word "ultimately" So Id say God and Satan
till you get more specific.

I'm not intersted in the Balfour declaration, not one bit(but I have heard of it) only who you felt was responsible for what happened

 

[Abiding]

lol.. I was not saying you were condemning anyone brother. it was a joke, you should know this.

and secondly, i was trying to get you to admit that our sister was wrong.. I have not seen anyone say a word to her about what she has done today..condemning us to hell because we disagree with her and saying we teach a different gospel/. thats just wrong!

maybe people won't.. then I just wonder.

Would it be fair to judge zone and not also you and mark?
let me drink my coffee

 

[mark54]

unless they come to a different conclusion than you do Mark.

Zone
My Christianity is very different from yours, as to what matters greatly to us in it. I do not have the slightest desire to study the things you have, never had and never will

 

[eternally-gratefull]

EG i scanned it. And am not up to getting to it right now.
Im pouring coffee down the hatch right now.

But i did see a frightening statement ......that Jesus didnt enter the Holy of Holies.
OMG!

Ill come back to this later ok?

Yes i have answers to the rest and for sure the consummation etc

he did not enter it and defile it. Gabriel was talking about the physical temple. not the heavenly temple or mercy seat of Christ.

He became it. huge difference there. Just something to ponder while your drinking your coffee

 

[GreenNnice]

I just plain think a lot of what ohzone says is Scripture, yes, it's true, we peeples have no ability to condemn man to hell, but to insinuate that what someone says opinionally of historical doctrine issues is condemning them is, well, just plain frightening :O

 

[Abiding]

1. Your right. i did know, but I was not going to back down while she was lieing about me.
2. I did it to show the world she continues to misrepresent what I believe.

if that is wrong,, then i bow out..

but anyone who can condone what she did.. i just wonder!

it is no different than some of our calvanist threads.. and you should know this.

Oh i understand. But i refuse to stick my hand into a lions cage just to show the world they will eat my hand.

 

[zone]

lol.. I was not saying you were condemning anyone brother. it was a joke, you should know this.

and secondly, i was trying to get you to admit that our sister was wrong.. I have not seen anyone say a word to her about what she has done today..condemning us to hell because we disagree with her and saying we teach a different gospel/. thats just wrong!

maybe people won't.. then I just wonder.

abiding's not my judge.
or yours.

appealing to him means nothing to me in this matter.

stand on your own theology.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Would it be fair to judge zone and not also you and mark?
let me drink my coffee

well if I was saying something about zone which was not true.. yes
If I was saying Zone believed something she did not believe,,yes
if I condemned ZOne to hell or say she was teaching a different gospel.. yess.

But I think the whole chatroom has seen this.

That is all I was griping about

 

[zone]

Zone
My Christianity is very different from yours, as to what matters greatly to us in it. I do not have the slightest desire to study the things you have, never had and never will

then what are you doing on this thread?

Arianism is not Christianity.

it's a cult.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh i understand. But i refuse to stick my hand into a lions cage just to show the world they will eat my hand.

lol.. Its ok.. I do not need affirmation.. God is what matters.. he knows what I believe. I will let him judge me on my belief.. He won't twist my words and say I believe something I do not

Go get your coffee. I need to get some myself

Yes I got angry.. But to a point I think it was justifiable. Anyone would get angry at someone lying about them

did I take it to far. probably. and for that, I ask forgiveness.

 

[Abiding]

I have a simple faith EG, it is not what may be termed a grand theological faith. I meant what I said to Abiding it wouyld not interset me at all personally to go into the practicalities of what happened in 1948(though I have seen programmes on some of it) the only thing for me is, in my own mind I am assured that it was God who brought them back as fulfillment of biblical prophecy(though as you said, there is still much more to do)

If I delved into the subject, i might

start edging towards a Christianity that is not for me personally, but I am not finding fault with anyone else studying the subject as much as they wish to

This is why i didnt bother answering and told EG you were insincere and just here to heckle.
You admit to not wanting to study but just believe 1948 fulfills bible prophecy. That cant be
done. But you can if you want. Imfine with that

What isnt fine is you being here just to give your attitude/unstudied/unfounded rant.
Why would you even do that mark? i cant understand it?

 

[Abiding]

Zone
My Christianity is very different from yours, as to what matters greatly to us in it. I do not have the slightest desire to study the things you have, never had and never will

What are you doing in this thread then?

 

[mark54]

then what are you doing on this thread?

Arianism is not Christianity.

it's a cult.

There you go again

See Zone, I have been to Trinitarian churches for 30 years, I have never once met anyone who wants to study like you do. And guess what, they see things far more from the proper perspective, you cannot see from the spiritual reality, of that I am sure, only the academic mind according to your misplaced doctrine

It is pure head theology Zone, and the more I read of your posts, the more convinced I am that is true
For you keep in effect saying(which you do) there is no place in Chrisitainity for a person who stands on the biblical requirement unto salvation
It is so plain ridiculous what you and a few others come out with, it really is, but you cannot see the spiritual realitty for your head is swimming with all those ologies and isms.
No wonder people like you ARE NOT REfLECtIVE of the average person in church
Tell me, just how many people in churches do you believe have heard of the ontological/econimic Trinity, and that's only for starters

 

[Abiding]

he did not enter it and defile it. Gabriel was talking about the physical temple. not the heavenly temple or mercy seat of Christ.

He became it. huge difference there. Just something to ponder while your drinking your coffee

youll have to show me that someday. my nkjv says nothing like (a physical temple)

 

[zone]

but anyone who can condone what she did.. i just wonder!

you better spell out what i did EG.
and it better be more than me not knowing what you believe.

anybody claiming Jesus intends racial or tribal or any other segregation of any kind, and supports it actively or passively is taking part in bloodshed over Land...bloodshed between unbelievers.

this is NOT the christian message, ever.
so you tell me exactly what I did.

 

[BarlyGurl]

Oh i understand. But i refuse to stick my hand into a lions cage just to show the world they will eat my hand.

 

[zone]

There you go again

See Zone, I have been to Trinitarian churches for 30 years, I have never once met anyone who wants to study like you do. And guess what, they see things far more from the proper perspective, you cannot see from the spiritual reality, of that I am sure, only the academic mind according to your misplaced doctrine

It is pure head theology Zone, and the more I read of your posts, the more copnvinced I am that is true
For you kewep in effect saying(wghich you do) there is no plasce in Chrisitainity for a person who stands on bhe biblical requirement unto salvation
It ios so plain ridiculpus what you and a few others come out with, itv rweally is, but you cannot see the spiritual vrealitty dfor your head is swimming with all those ologies and isms.
No wondfer people like you ARE NOT RELECRIVE of the average person in church
Tell me, just how many people in churches do you believe have heard of the ontological/econimic Trinity, and that's only for starters

don't care.
arianism is your problem, not mine.

if you are worshipping a created entity, you are an idolator.