Dual Covenant Theology

[eternally-gratefull]

Thats another assertion that isnt told there. Of coarse i understand that it was a prophecy
concerning the rest of Israels history and redemption. But in it would be also the prophecies
of the gentiles(hidden). Im not saying 70ad isnt in the context it is...the last part of verse 27

But is this part of this thread?

Your right..


Do I believe in dual covenant theology. As shown by Zone, That God saved people different ways.

No.

To bad Zone will not believe me.

 

[Abiding]

You have got to be joking?

No I did not misunderstand her at all..

She did say I teach a different gospel
She did say I wished to send Isreal money and weapons to kill people
She did say I believed in ethnic cleansing

And I misunderstood her? wow my friend.. I am dissapointed in you.

Question. Is it the first time she has said this to you? No, yet your here.
I hear this stuff from calvinists all the time. And i know if i talk to them i will hear
it again and again. so if i hear it again whos fault is it?

I Love you EG and i love zone. I saw naughty stuff both ways.
I could say one was throwing bigger rocks than the other.
Then i lose a friend.
I was told a week ago i was hmmm something like a traitor, yellowbelly
hugging on the heretics....blah blah.
I dont care i want unity as far as i can get it without compromising truth.
If i ask Mark a question and he gives me the runaround and i get frustriated
who fault is it. I know by now he will only give me the runaround, right?

 

[mark54]

If i ask Mark a question and he gives me the runaround and i get frustriated
who fault is it. I know by now he will only give me the runaround, right?

I told you go to the Trinity thread and I will answer your question
But as you have done your fair share of 'running around', the above seems a bit rich to me

 

[Abiding]

Well Zone asked me to leave the debate, if the subject went off topic, now you want me to answer a question off topic I can't win
Go to the Trinity thread and I'll answer it as per Zone's request
Oh
Will you do me the courtesy of answering a question of mine afterwards, or is that hoping for too much?

Ill answer any "sincere" question if i have the answer.
All you had to say was yes or no.
in those 6 sentences you could have answered 100 times

 

[mark54]

Ill answer any "sincere" question if i have the answer.
All you had to say was yes or no.
in those 6 sentences you could have answered 100 times

Well if that is the case, you didn't have many answers to give in the Trinity thread
But heck, I don't mind you accusing others of what you do yourself, I know what is causing you to do it, np, Christians ain't perfect, as I know only too well

 

[Abiding]

Your right..


Do I believe in dual covenant theology. As shown by Zone, That God saved people different ways.

No.

To bad Zone will not believe me.

EG right or wrong we all have to decide where we stand on things and let the chips fall
where they may. Some give no quarter like John the baptist, some give a mile like John the Apostle.
We dont give up truth ever. But i think we have to consider the cost going in. And see each
other in our unique special gifts. You know what i mean Im greedy i want all i can get from the body.

 

[Abiding]

Well if that is the case, you didn't have many answers to give in the Trinity thread
But heck, I don't mind you accusing others of what you do yourself, I know what is causing you to do it, np, Christians ain't perfect, as I know only too well

Mark, i did answer you more than id say 3-5 times. Your so used to your game where you nearly
boast that people cant answer you i think youve fallen over the edge.

What in the world are you talking about "accusing others"?

 

[mark54]

Mark, i did answer you more than id say 3-5 times. Your so used to your game where you nearly
boast that people cant answer you i think youve fallen over the edge.

What in the world are you talking about "accusing others"?

Oh Abiding let go of the ego, no need to try and say you answered questions when you didn't
BTW
Why don't you go and pose the question in the Trinity thread, I'd be happy to answer it

Maybe you are a wee bit worried that I asked if you would answer a follow up question of mine

 

[Abiding]

Ok lunchbreaks over

 

[Cobus]

Abiding Ianswered you in EG's sinless thread, wow!

 

[Abiding]

Oh Abiding let go of the ego, no need to try and say you answered questions when you didn't
BTW
Why don't you go and pose the question in the Trinity thread, I'd be happy to answer it

Maybe you are a wee bit worried that I asked if you would answer a follow up question of mine

Why the ego jab? why the theology jab? why the grey matter jab? why the online person jab? Why mark, do you do this?
Why do you remark about what i do? who i am friends with? Whats up?

Anyway, no im not worried, But how about when you ask me "thee" question you so many times tell me and others
that you never get answered. How about if i go glean the answers i gave you....you pay me 500.00 for each post
that not only answered it but pleased you and your career quest? Sound like a deal?

 

[mark54]

Why the ego jab? why the theology jab? why the grey matter jab? why the online person jab? Why mark, do you do this?
Why do you remark about what i do? who i am friends with? Whats up?

Anyway, no im not worried, But how about when you ask me "thee" question you so many times tell me and others
that you never get answered. How about if i go glean the answers i gave you....you pay me 500.00 for each post
that not only answered it but pleased you and your career quest? Sound like a deal?

It's OK I understand, you thought it would be a sinch when you entered the Trinity deabte-but....

 

[Abiding]

It's OK I understand, you thought it would be a sinch huh when you entered the Trinity deabte but............................

Oh mark i sure did until i discovered how powerful you were, as you seen,
i had to put my tail between my legs an run. In fact sometimes i shutter
even reading the thread name when i come to the forums. but everyone has
to be knocked down to size right? ty Mark you really did do me a big favor.

 

[mark54]

Oh mark i sure did until i discovered how powerful you were, as you seen,
i had to put my tail between my legs an run. In fact sometimes i shutter
even reading the thread name when i come to the forums. but everyone has
to be knocked down to size right? ty Mark you really did do me a big favor.

Me, I'm not tough, like I have said before, many people on this website know a lot more than me, and are more Spirit filled, I have no problem admitting that.
Thing is, they never came to the Trinity thread and started making extra biblical demands

 

[zone]

*unsubscribe*

 

[homwardbound]

no, i said what i meant:

i'm not certain God reveals anything to people who worship the creation instead of The One True God.

Arians of any stripe.

Zone I think God does through his children but it is up to those that are not believers to change thier minds from unbelief to belief for when Chrst went to the cross he died for the sins of the whole world all are today forgiven back at the cross and one needs that first and formost before life can be given to anyone, for noone is saved by the death, even though was needed first, then after the death came life
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! [SUP]11 [/SUP]Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. (Forgiven)
God is in the new life giving for anyone that will come to belief in him via Christ, but new life is not always recognized by the believer as being installed or is aware of this gift upon belief and is caught up in trying not to sin and cannot stop, have listened to the greatest lie from the devil keeping us in our sinful flesh by not believing that we are dead to sin, because we do not have redeemed bodies. Romans 6:11 Reckon (believe) yourself to be DEAD here and now to sin and alive to God, if you are dead to sin and no doubt how can you sin or ever be proud that you don't anymore? Because if you are dead to sin in belief no doubt you are then not aware, but if you are aware of that you don't or are tryiong not to then you are not dead to it.
THis might not make sense only God can reveal what I just wrote and praying God does for ones freedom is involved
All in Love God's type 1 cor 13

 

[homwardbound]

And your a liar. and decieved by some hate that is in you for whatever reason.

I do not believe this, and to say the only reason I have to believe it is dual covenant is flat out wrong. Mark does not believe it either. we have both been saying it in this who thread, but you do not respond to that. you only respond to other stuff.. You know what they call this type of person?

In that case. the only reason ammilenialism exists is strong anti-semetism.. there do you like that? There is no other reason peoploe would believe if the jews as a nation did not repent, God would not restore them to their land.. what other reason would there be than a strict hatred of these people?

Of course I do not believe everyone who is amillenial is an antisemite. So I guess I am one up above you.. Since you think we are ALL DUAL covenant, which is flat out wrong!



Yet the future kingdom does not even teach this. But you so angry for some reason, you can;t possibly listen to someone to see what is really believed.

The future kingdom said Christ, Not Jews, Will rule, he will rule jews as well as gentiles.

Yet it took them from Christ, because they forgot the part he needed to save them from their sin first.. but you do not want to hear this do you?



And some christians sects are different? Why are you not fighting against the roman catholics and other legalistic christian sects like you are the jews? You have a hate that is beyond imagination for a people who need God no more than any other person who is not Gods child..

You seem to think I and Mark think God is going to save them, and give them power while they still reject Christ.. Well you would be in grave error./. we have NEVER STATED THIS



I don't care how you color outside your lines either. You do not listen to anything we say, you claim we believe something which is not true, and your hatred against us is quite frankly unchristianlike

Dan 9 has NOTHING to do with my or anyone elses salvation. It has to do with the city of jeruslam and the people of Isreal turning from their sin, and finally comming to God, and relenting of their idol worship and their sins against the God who wanted so much for them.



lol. Sickening? what you are sickened by prophetic history which claims Gentiles will be ruling jerusalem until the end of the age, when their time is up. Which is a WHOLE lot different than saying their will be saved gentiles living and prospering in jeruslalem. many did throughout the Old testament, but I have said this,, you just can't hear it!

Your sickened by hate and blindness you can't even understand what anyone is saying. You brought this on yourself when you claimed no one who believes in a future kingdom (under grace not law) can be your friend. Well that's too bad, if that's the way you want to be.. then your no better than the very pharisees you hate.

And the carnal nature seems to have taken front seat any charge for admissio to the show here where did the love and freedom go? I am just saying

 

[homwardbound]

The Messiah came to clean our Spirit he said start with the inside.....

believe and recieve the Love of God that does not fight holds no record of wrongs, believes all things hopes all things and read the rest o God's love 1 cor 13 and at the end what goes on froever you all YES LOVE so you all please let us love and let each be fully convinced in our own minds and consider what each other says and why sift it all through each of our new hearts and hear what God tells you through God's type of Love and re-read Romans 14 for it is who that makes one stand? why it is God so why do we judge another man's serveant you do this or believe this or that and give God thanks. Please let us each see the depth of Romans 14 and not bite and devour one another as Paul had written to the Corinthians about being not of one mind in LOVE
Thank you

 

[homwardbound]

Ya you condemn others for standing on the words of Christ unto salvation
But then continually stress you are standing up for the Gospel

Wisdom is always proved right by its incosistencies

Marc you believe right?, Zone you believe right? are you not both growing in the grace (love) of God has God recieved each of you? Who will straighten out this mess of arguing? Is it God by the Spirit of God or your flesh, this is to all to consider flesh is tricky and wants its own way, forsakng LOVE of God that is unconditioanl and it is the unconditional grace that teaches me and all to say no to flesh arguments, as Jesus said to Peter out down that sword if my kingdom were of this world I would have fought, but my kingdom is of Heaven where all those that believe are Citizens of, and those are put back here are ambassadors representing the kingdom of heaven the one that God built in heaven where the Love, peace joy and righteousness is at

 

[zone]

home, i'm no longer on this thread.
it was derailed long ago.
zone