Jews, Gentiles, And The Church During the Millenium

[peterT]

peter....what did the scriptures say Jesus went around doing?
casting out actual literal unclean demons from ISRAEL and surrounds.
healing people satan had bound.

destroying the works of the devil.
i wonder if you believe that Jesus is more powerful than satan.

He gave his disciples and apostles the authority and POWER from on High to do the SAME....don't you believe what you READ?

and for you...today...as a minister of the Word to unbelievers....the Gospel has the power unto salvation! that means it has the power to destroy the works of the devil in keeping men from salvation!

go to your favorite, pet passage Rev 20 and read AGAIN what it is he is bound from doing.
please don't ask me about this or bother with it until you read that passage again SLOWLY.

now if you do not believe it about today, you can NOT POSSIBLY apply it to a future Millennium!
where Jesus is supposedly here, in Person reigning and all men know of Him!!!

Yes the disciples were casting out devils way after Jesus was dead, so how is the devil bound NOW? and in a bottomless pit in a prison and shut up,, chained and sealed with a key if we are still casting out devils?

Yes I have read Rv20:

3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

What do you think the nations are getting better and closer to God or do you think they are still being deceived?

The bible speaks for its self.

Bound.

in a bottomless pit.

in a prison.

And shut up.

Chained.

And sealed.

With a key. For a thousand years not 2013 and more.

So how does he keep bounding people that we can set free in the name of Jesus if he is Bound in a bottomless pit, in a prison and shut up, Chained, and sealed with a key. The 1000 years hasn’t happened yet Zone.

He walking about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, and when he does get bound he cannot deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled.

 

[zone]

According to scripture the most important thing is to love the Lord and others. Mark 12:30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. Loving the Lord includes Christ.

According to Revelations as it talks of the seven churches, our churches are often failing. Why should we bad mouth the Jews? It is the mud in our own eye we are to look at instead. All this “we are superior”talk is not biblical.

redtent would you post the "we are superior" talk please?
i'd like to see it.

Gen 12:3 I will bless them that bless you, and curse him that curses you: and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.

you know the OT well.
to whom was God speaking in Genesis 12:3?

and what was he referring to (or rather Whom was He referring to here): "and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed." do you know?

They are blind to Christ,the bible tells us that.

the Bible tells us the unbelievers were cut off due to unbelief. cut off means just what it says.
and we are warned to remember the severity of God.
does this say blinding for their good do you suppose?

and what does that above...have to do with this below?

Gen 12:3 I will bless them that bless you, and curse him that curses you: and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Christ has been since the world began, and also came in the flesh. That is biblical. They do not deny Christ as He was in the beginning, they are denying the Messiah in Christ as He came to us in the flesh as our Savior. We have the Holy Spirit. That is to lead us in letting God take care of the Jews.

how is God taking care of the Jews redtent?
by having us believe in a Dual Covenant or a Plan A restart when there isn't one?

i really find all this misplaced philosemitism without the Gospel, and all this erroneous understanding of who the Gospel is for to be the problem.

but i do see you go on to blame Luther. that's quite popular.

when perhaps you ought to be blaming people who don't believe the jews are and can be saved through the very same Gospel we are, and that is how God takes care of the jews.

so i really wonder who in the Church is antisemitic?
wouldn't it be people why say they are blind for their own good and leave it God?

or is it people who preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to them, as does my jewish christian friend who meets jews regularly where he lives and never gives up preaching JESUS CHRIST crucified for THEIR sins?

do you know what happens when he does that?

some believe.

does that surprise you?

We are to see the good in all we observe.

do you see good in the State of Israel today?
perhaps i should say it differently - do you see people actually preaching Jesus to jews today and some are saved?
is that what good we are to see and do?

or just say how we see god in everything and 'leave it to God', in spite of the fact we were given the Great Commission.
and commanded to carry it out - for all people.

If your eye is so filled with judgment then you cannot see what God has taught of Himself through the Jews. The evil you do is cutting you out of the good that is offered by our Lord.

who are you talking to?

let's see;

1) judaism says i am a jew
2) judaism says since i am a christian i am not a jew
3) christianity says there is no jew or gentile

the Bible is the story of jesus Christ The King of Israel who came through israel the people.
the New Testament was given to us by those people (who believed).

this is what God has taught us through the jews.

so i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Luther taught that the Jews were so bad that it was even OK to kill rabbis. It is wrong to kill, and to judge. The Lutherans have been used by God for good,but in that they have been wrong.

I know, Christians against Jews is the most popular way to believe. But the more I study scripture, the word of God, the more I think that is the wrong way to think of them. It is even leading our churches into other errors in understanding.

If your eye is so filled with judgment....the evil you do is cutting you out of the good that is offered by our Lord.

According to scripture the most important thing is to love the Lord and others. Mark 12:30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. Loving the Lord includes Christ.

According to Revelations as it talks of the seven churches, our churches are often failing. Why should we bad mouth the Jews? It is the mud in our own eye we are to look at instead. All this “we are superior”talk is not biblical.

redtent would you post the "we are superior" talk please?
i'd like to see it.

also, please tell me about this:

Gen 12:3 I will bless them that bless you, and curse him that curses you: and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.

you know the OT well.

to whom was God speaking in Genesis 12:3?

and to Whom is He referring?

 

[zone]

If he is bound NOW zone, what was life like before he was bound? (scripture)

okay...scripture.

but are you planning to try to understand what he is bound from doing?
deceiving the nations.
that's all it says.

so let's see what that might mean (are you actually going to read it Peter?) concerning what life was like for the Gentiles (nations) before Jesus came and Fulfilled the Promise for Israel, THEN sent the message to the Gentiles:

Ephesians 2
One in Christ
11Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19So then you are no longer strangers and aliens,c but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God byd the Spirit.


Acts 9:15
But the Lord said to Ananias, "Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel.


Acts 22:21
"Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.'"

Nothing has changed when it comes to the devil in 6000 years, so how is he bound NOW? and in a bottomless pit in a prison and shut up,, chained and sealed with a key? If he is reeking just as much havoc now as he ever did.

i've already posted on the "reeking just as much havoc" bit.

it does not say anything about satan not being able to wreak havoc.

it says he is bound from deceiving the nations, and later he is released to deceive the nations, and to gather them for battle against the holy people - Christians.

that's what it says. nothing more and nothing less.

 

[peterT]

okay...scripture.

but are you planning to try to understand what he is bound from doing?
deceiving the nations.
that's all it says.

so let's see what that might mean (are you actually going to read it Peter?) concerning what life was like for the Gentiles (nations) before Jesus came and Fulfilled the Promise for Israel, THEN sent the message to the Gentiles:

Ephesians 2
One in Christ
11Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19So then you are no longer strangers and aliens,c but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God byd the Spirit.


Acts 9:15
But the Lord said to Ananias, "Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel.


Acts 22:21
"Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.'"



i've already posted on the "reeking just as much havoc" bit.

it does not say anything about satan not being able to wreak havoc..

That was Jesus’s ministry came to bring hope and salvation to the world and keep us from being separated from Christ.

None of those verses you just quoted say anything about the devil being bound NOW Zone in a bottomless pit. in a prison, and shut up, chained. and sealed. With a key . NOTHING in those verses you quoted say anything about nations not being deserved anymore

Jesus brought salvation to the world, what’s that got to do with nations being deserved still, and now not being deserved anymore according to you, nothing’s changed in 6000 except Jesus coming to bring salvation to all. The devil is still loose and busier than ever.

If the devil was bound NOW in a bottomless pit. in a prison, and shut up, chained. and sealed with a key, he could do nothing and you don’t get to wreak havoc or walk about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour from a bottomless pit, chained with a key, prisoned shut up and sealed.

nations are still being deserved and people are still being bound including Christians and he does all this from a bottomless pit chained with a key, prisoned shut up and sealed I think not

What don’t you get about “prison”, “sealed” “ shut up” “in a bottomless pit” “chained” “with a key” this is not a picture of a roaring lion walking about seeking whom he may devour .

it says he is bound from deceiving the nations, and later he is released to deceive the nations, and to gather them for battle against the holy people - Christians.

that's what it says. nothing more and nothing less.

Yes that’s AFTER the 1000 years is finished

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth

 

[zone]

okay peter.
thank you.

 

[peterT]

okay peter.
thank you.

NO, thank YOU zone.

Love these little chats with you

 

[crosspreacher]

Yes the disciples were casting out devils way after Jesus was dead, so how is the devil bound NOW? and in a bottomless pit in a prison and shut up,, chained and sealed with a key if we are still casting out devils?

Yes I have read Rv20:

3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

What do you think the nations are getting better and closer to God or do you think they are still being deceived?

The bible speaks for its self.

Bound.

in a bottomless pit.

in a prison.

And shut up.

Chained.

And sealed.

With a key. For a thousand years not 2013 and more.

So how does he keep bounding people that we can set free in the name of Jesus if he is Bound in a bottomless pit, in a prison and shut up, Chained, and sealed with a key. The 1000 years hasn’t happened yet Zone.

He walking about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, and when he does get bound he cannot deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled.

The millenium is a revelation given to the Bride or in other word, the revival of the Bride. It is the honey moon.
In mat 16 vs 17-19;
Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but my Father who is in heaven. And also I say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.
And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you will bind on earth will be bind in heaven, and whatever you will loose on earth, will be loose in heaven"
It is the honey moon of Jesus and the bride. The five virgin who were wise, had oil in their lamp, and the five virgin who had not oil in their lamp, were fool. Jesus did not knew them.
Mat.22 vs 12
"So he said to him, 'friend how did come in here without a wedding garment? and he was speechless.
"Then the king said to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into the outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

 

[peterT]

The millenium is a revelation given to the Bride or in other word, the revival of the Bride. It is the honey moon.
In mat 16 vs 17-19;
Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but my Father who is in heaven. And also I say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.
And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you will bind on earth will be bind in heaven, and whatever you will loose on earth, will be loose in heaven"
It is the honey moon of Jesus and the bride. The five virgin who were wise, had oil in their lamp, and the five virgin who had not oil in their lamp, were fool. Jesus did not knew them.
Mat.22 vs 12
"So he said to him, 'friend how did come in here without a wedding garment? and he was speechless.
"Then the king said to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into the outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Sorry, I missed your point I think.

If you think the millennium is the honey moon then it hasn’t happened yet.

Is that what you are saying??

 

[RedTent]

redtent would you post the "we are superior" talk please?
i'd like to see it.

you know the OT well.
to whom was God speaking in Genesis 12:3?

and what was he referring to (or rather Whom was He referring to here): "and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed." do you know?

the Bible tells us the unbelievers were cut off due to unbelief. cut off means just what it says.
and we are warned to remember the severity of God.
does this say blinding for their good do you suppose?

and what does that above...have to do with this below?

how is God taking care of the Jews redtent?
by having us believe in a Dual Covenant or a Plan A restart when there isn't one?

i really find all this misplaced philosemitism without the Gospel, and all this erroneous understanding of who the Gospel is for to be the problem.

but i do see you go on to blame Luther. that's quite popular.

when perhaps you ought to be blaming people who don't believe the jews are and can be saved through the very same Gospel we are, and that is how God takes care of the jews.

so i really wonder who in the Church is antisemitic?
wouldn't it be people why say they are blind for their own good and leave it God?

or is it people who preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to them, as does my jewish christian friend who meets jews regularly where he lives and never gives up preaching JESUS CHRIST crucified for THEIR sins?

do you know what happens when he does that?

some believe.

does that surprise you?do you see good in the State of Israel today?
perhaps i should say it differently - do you see people actually preaching Jesus to jews today and some are saved?
is that what good we are to see and do?

or just say how we see god in everything and 'leave it to God', in spite of the fact we were given the Great Commission.
and commanded to carry it out - for all people.

who are you talking to?

let's see;

1) judaism says i am a jew
2) judaism says since i am a christian i am not a jew
3) christianity says there is no jew or gentile

the Bible is the story of jesus Christ The King of Israel who came through israel the people.
the New Testament was given to us by those people (who believed).

this is what God has taught us through the jews.

so i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

redtent would you post the "we are superior" talk please?
i'd like to see it.

also, please tell me about this:

you know the OT well.

to whom was God speaking in Genesis 12:3?

and to Whom is He referring?

Wow, can you ever be sarcastic!! My Dad had that skill.

I think your problem with understanding is that you are zeroed in on the fact that the Jews deny Christ, although even in that I don't think you have the entire reasons or facts. If you make deciding how God will handle this your business, then you would need to gather a lot more facts and also get into their heart as only the Lord can.

As far a Luther is concerned, it would be silly to judge this wonderful man on his sermon on the Jews, just as it would be silly to decide he didn't make that speech.

When God told us not to curse the Jews, God was making a statement of God principles. God is eternal, we are not to subject Him to our concept of time. God doesn't change His principles to our idea of how time changes Him.

Are you actually questioning if it is right to talk to Jews about Christ? I have done this. I look back on times I did not do it with the results following that God promises when He is with us, so I have given much prayful thought to ways to do it effectively. I would love to see all Christians be prepared if the opporturnity opens up to them. For instance, I had this opportunity when a girl I worked with asked me, when I was on an oil painting retreat, when I casually met a man at a wholesale warehouse.

 

[zone]

I think your problem with understanding is that you are zeroed in on the fact that the Jews deny Christ, although even in that I don't think you have the entire reasons or facts.

oh really?
could it be because they are raised to revile and reject?
or simply are secular like the rest of the world with no interest at all?

or do you believe God mercifully blinded them for a future time?

did you know that the vast majority of jews in the world are generational gentile converts to Talmudic Judaism (an antichrist religion, btw) and have nothing to do with ancient israel?

so explain to me again how it is I don't have the entire reasons or facts.

not all jews deny Christ. did you know that?
they become Christians.

If you make deciding how God will handle this your business, then you would need to gather a lot more facts

help me out on those facts redtent.
what am i missing?

and how will God handle this?
will it be through the very same Gospel He gave Israel to begin with?
2000 years ago?

and also get into their heart as only the Lord can.

Romans 1:16
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

i think some people are ashamed of the Gospel.

When God told us not to curse the Jews, God was making a statement of God principles.

curse the jews?
if you mean Genesis 12, He was speaking to Abram.
not the State of Israel or AIPAC.

are we to honor God's principles concerning all the dead people we have over Jerusalem which now is?
is it okay for Israel to ethnically cleanse and exterminate people, to sit on 500 MEGA-NUKES and threaten the whole world?

why is that redtent? does Jesus have two sets of principles going on?

and i have no power to curse anyone. nor have i cursed the jews. what you seem to not be hearing is that it is people who are holding up a false gospel (Land, some Future Kingdom after Judgement Day) for them who are loving them to death.

what i do have a choice in is this:

Romans 1:16
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

God is eternal, we are not to subject Him to our concept of time. God doesn't change His principles to our idea of how time changes Him.

are you ashamed of the Gospel?
The Stumbling Stone and the Rock of Offense?
Christ Crucified?

i'm not.

Are you actually questioning if it is right to talk to Jews about Christ?

are you serious?

I have done this. I look back on times I did not do it with the results following that God promises when He is with us.

what result is that?
what results did God promise us if we "talk to the jews about Christ?
what were you expecting?

what did you say when you were "talking"?

God told us to expect persecution - not accolades.

 

[zone]

The millenium is a revelation given to the Bride or in other word, the revival of the Bride. It is the honey moon.

where are all the other people during this time?

why is there a HUGE battle instigated by satan at the end of it?

 

[RedTent]

oh really?
could it be because they are raised to revile and reject?
or simply are secular like the rest of the world with no interest at all?

or do you believe God mercifully blinded them for a future time?

did you know that the vast majority of jews in the world are generational gentile converts to Talmudic Judaism (an antichrist religion, btw) and have nothing to do with ancient israel?

so explain to me again how it is I don't have the entire reasons or facts.

not all jews deny Christ. did you know that?
they become Christians.

help me out on those facts redtent.
what am i missing?

and how will God handle this?
will it be through the very same Gospel He gave Israel to begin with?
2000 years ago?

Romans 1:16
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

i think some people are ashamed of the Gospel.

curse the jews?
if you mean Genesis 12, He was speaking to Abram.
not the State of Israel or AIPAC.

are we to honor God's principles concerning all the dead people we have over Jerusalem which now is?
is it okay for Israel to ethnically cleanse and exterminate people, to sit on 500 MEGA-NUKES and threaten the whole world?

why is that redtent? does Jesus have two sets of principles going on?

and i have no power to curse anyone. nor have i cursed the jews. what you seem to not be hearing is that it is people who are holding up a false gospel (Land, some Future Kingdom after Judgement Day) for them who are loving them to death.

what i do have a choice in is this:

Romans 1:16
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

are you ashamed of the Gospel?
The Stumbling Stone and the Rock of Offense?
Christ Crucified?

i'm not.

are you serious?

what result is that?
what results did God promise us if we "talk to the jews about Christ?
what were you expecting?

what did you say when you were "talking"?

God told us to expect persecution - not accolades.

Zone, you are intent on sneering without making sense, even in being consistant in what you believe. I wanted to discuss, you don't. I'm out.

 

[biblestudent61497]

Matt 23:37, 38 says, " O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate." Also see Romans 9:27 where Paul quotes, "Moreover, Isaiah calls out concerning Israel: "Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, it is the remnant that will be saved."" Physical Israel was rejected as God's chosen people when Jesus was executed by them. Read John 19:14, 15. Pilate asked the Jews, "Shall I impale your King?" and the Jews shouted out, "We have no King but Caesar."

Therefore, God rejected Israel, and chose a new people (Romans 11:21,22). This "Spiritual Israel" will rule over mankind after the Great Tribulation for 1,000 years. During that time, humans on Earth will either be judged worthy of everlasting life or destruction. After 1,000 years, mankind will return to a state of perfection.

 

[Abiding]

Well, I thank you for taking the time to tell what you believe, but it will be hard to convince myself what you are saying is true after hearing and believing the other way my whole life. In the end it doesn't matter and knowledge of this subject is not a prerequisite to being saved. That's the good thing!

Many have made the transition, and yes at first its hard. I did after innocently accepting my views for over 40 years.
But when i really examined them it was easy. They feel apart under serious scrutiny. good luck

 

[crosspreacher]

where are all the other people during this time?

why is there a HUGE battle instigated by satan at the end of it?

The other people are here on earth but not reigning with Jesus. They are dead because they worship the beast and his image. They did not have the oil in their lamp to receive the bridegroom. The door of heaven is closed for them. They had any wedding garment on them to be in the feast. They are dead without the Holy Spirit. This is why there will be a huge battle at the end and God will destroy them.
Rev. 19 vs 21:
And the rest were killed with the sword which proceed from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
Rev. 20 vs 5:
But the rest of the dead DID NOT LIVE AGAIN UNTIL the thousand years were finished.

 

[coconut]

uh ya. that's exactly what i'm saying.

are you saved? do you have a King?

what a ridiculous notion that He is not King now.

why isn't He according to dispensationalism?

why ISN'T Jesus King?

because some jews are cut off branches and they didn't get the carnal kingdom they thought was coming?



do you have a King peaceful?
who is it?
Caesar? or Jesus?

back later.

Is the Lord Jesus Christ PRESENTLY sitting and reigning upon the throne of his father David or is that a prophecy in the covenant that God made with David with a future reference that happens after the second coming? The throne that Christ is PRESENTLY seated at the right hand of the Father (Acts 2:32-36, Heb 2:2), are we to believe that to be the throne of his father David? (Luke 1:32,33)?

 

[zone]

Is the Lord Jesus Christ PRESENTLY sitting and reigning upon the throne of his father David or is that a prophecy in the covenant that God made with David with a future reference that happens after the second coming? The throne that Christ is PRESENTLY seated at the right hand of the Father (Acts 2:32-36, Heb 2:2), are we to believe that to be the throne of his father David? (Luke 1:32,33)?

yes, we are to believe that.

 

[zone]

Zone, you are intent on sneering without making sense, even in being consistant in what you believe. I wanted to discuss, you don't. I'm out.

i'm making sense.
i am consistent.
okay.
bye then.

 

[zone]

where are all the other people during this time?

why is there a HUGE battle instigated by satan at the end of it?
zone

The other people are here on earth but not reigning with Jesus. They are dead because they worship the beast and his image. They did not have the oil in their lamp to receive the bridegroom. The door of heaven is closed for them. They had any wedding garment on them to be in the feast. They are dead without the Holy Spirit. This is why there will be a huge battle at the end and God will destroy them.
Rev. 19 vs 21:
And the rest were killed with the sword which proceed from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
Rev. 20 vs 5:
But the rest of the dead DID NOT LIVE AGAIN UNTIL the thousand years were finished.

so, all the dead people who will come from the 4 corners of the earth (Gog and Magog) to do battle in the last time (before the Second Advent btw)....were resurrected back to life into temporary flesh bodies at the end of the 1,000 years just to do battle against the Church and attack the holy people....then are killed in their 2nd flesh bodies, and resurrected again - for Judgment and thrown into the lake of fire?

this happens twice?

And the rest were killed with the sword which proceed from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Matt 23:37, 38 says, " O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate." Also see Romans 9:27 where Paul quotes, "Moreover, Isaiah calls out concerning Israel: "Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, it is the remnant that will be saved."" Physical Israel was rejected as God's chosen people when Jesus was executed by them. Read John 19:14, 15. Pilate asked the Jews, "Shall I impale your King?" and the Jews shouted out, "We have no King but Caesar."

Therefore, God rejected Israel, and chose a new people (Romans 11:21,22). This "Spiritual Israel" will rule over mankind after the Great Tribulation for 1,000 years. During that time, humans on Earth will either be judged worthy of everlasting life or destruction. After 1,000 years, mankind will return to a state of perfection.

1. God did not reject Isreal. As he has ALWAYS done, he kept a remnant. All over the OT prophesies, he claimed they would reject him, but he would never rejct them. he would always keep a remnant until they finally ALL come to him. There is a reason he will not alow the bloodline to cease, unlike ANY OTHER RACE in the history of mankind.
2. God did not chose a new people. It had always been prophesied all overt the OT that this would happen. It did not come as a surprise to God, or us, it was always planned
3. Where does it say the people at that time will be judged worthy or not? are they back under law? where does this come from? People will be saved then like they always have, By trust in the work of God to save them. Not by their good deeds, that will never save anyone.