Don't think she gained a victory, but know she calls Jesus a liar when it was He who said that He would send His Spirit to dwell in us. Not only as a Helper, but One who would guide us in our walk, One who would lead us to Truth, the One who is our seal of sonhood. The only thing she as won is.......
you'll never apologizing for crafting such a horrendous misrepresentation of what she said.
and i watched you do it last night....like the Pharisees of old....trying to catch her in something.
when you couldn't....you made it up.
by twisting a few things. and leaving out not only what you orginially said, and what she actually, said, as well as what Jesus said and to whom.
but you don't care.
because like so many others, you think the Bible is ALL ABOUT YOU.
and just in case you want to try it again, she was right.
Jesus made
that particular promise of guiding THEM into ALL truth for a reason.
That statement seems to be used a lot to show the authority for what one believes,
to show that one's understanding is always God-given and God-authorized.
There are multiple problems with that. . .the rational one first.
If those who make such claims are correct, then God contradicts himself, because among those who make these claims are understandings which are a direct contradiction to others' understandings, but all authorized by the Holy Spirit.
Secondly, Jesus made that statement at the Last Supper to his apostles (Jn 16:13), not to the whole church.
He promised that the Holy Spirit would guide his apostles into all truth about him,
guaranteeing their inerrancy as writers of Scripture and the foundation of his church (Eph 2:20).
But that was not a promise of inerrancy to all Christians.
And thirdly, if even what Paul said to the more noble Bereans was subject to measure against the word of God written to see if it were true (Ac 17:17),
then how much more is the believer's understanding to be measured against the word of God before it is accepted as true?
The believer has no promise from Jesus that his understanding will always be true and, therefore, authoritative for himself.
His understanding must be in agreement with Scripture, and where it is not, it is not Biblical.
Therefore, whatever understanding one thinks he has been given by the Holy Spirit is subject to measure against the word of God written.
John 16
“I did not say these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. 5But now I am going to him who sent me, and none of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’ 6But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away,
for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; 10concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Your Sorrow Will Turn into Joy
16“A little while, and you will see me no longer; and again a little while, and you will see me.” 17So some of his disciples said to one another, “What is this that he says to us, ‘A little while, and you will not see me, and again a little while, and you will see me’; and, ‘because I am going to the Father’?” 18So they were saying......
no cee, you're not an apostle, and you weren't there with Jesus.
and you have lied about Elin.
but it won't change anything at all - so when i see this:
Don't think she gained a victory, but know she calls Jesus a liar when it was He who said that He would send His Spirit to dwell in us. Not only as a Helper, but One who would guide us in our walk, One who would lead us to Truth, the One who is our seal of sonhood. The only thing she as won is.......
followed by this:
Discernment does not give one the power of condemnation
....i smell hypocricy.
and all the running around playing righteously-offended is just empty gaga.
you won't apologize to her, and you won't admit you did this.
but i saw ya....and i know.
eh
