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hermanodaniel
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Well then you cannot ever divide the Pauline Epistle or minimize it as being second before any Scripture because God's Word does not contain words written by man or less inspired.
Loving God is so easy, Christ made it that way for us, Paul new this and only wanted us to remember what he had done for us so we could understand how much he loved God and us. Peace be with those that accept it.
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hermanodaniel
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rightly divide that with romans 7:6 where we don't serve after the oldness of the letter but after the newness of the spirit. No one is saying that we don't keep the commandments of God. They are kept by believing in the Christ whom God has sent and to love other as he loved (Cf. John 6:28-29, John 13:34-35, 1 John 3:23)
The two greatest commands on which hang all the law and the prophets are to love God with all of your heart, mind and soul and to love our neighbors as ourselves. Matthew 22:40 These two are fulfilled in the following two commands given by Christ.
John 6:28-29 28 "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."
John 13:34 "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
This covers the first great command for we cannot offer God any dead works which are produced by the letter because if we stumble at one it results in breaking the Law as a whole and that offering is then blemished which is unacceptable. But in Christ we can offer our bodies as spiritual sacrifices before God. Romans 12 but this is in the spirit where our flesh was crucified with Christ for sinning under the letter our flesh was condemned but our spirit is justified in righteousness. Romans 8:1-4, 8:10.
The second great command is to "Love your neighbor as yourself" and this is fulfilled in the other command given by Christ which is the Law of Christ. Notice that Christ states a new commandment that on the surface seems to be the same as Leviticus 19:18 which is "Love your neighbor as yourself" BUT actually it's a bit deeper because Jesus states "Love others as I HAVE LOVED YOU" thus a sacrificial love that requires death to the flesh. This is the LAW OF CHRIST reflecting the truth behind the letter now written in our hearts if we are born again in the Spirit of God.
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According to what you say here, I should ignore all of the Psalms and the teachings of the Lamb of Yahweh. This is not ooing to happen. There is much to be learned from the Psalms, and had the Jews understood all in the Psalms they would have come gladly to Jesus Christ, so would many who feign belief today.
Then what are we arguing about. I love the psalms and how the hoped for there messiah. The psalms are prophecy of our rest. that is why they longed for it and gave sacrifice to cover. They rested in there sacrificial Just as we rest in the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Can we rest in other thing.
What was the focus of all old testament saints. Did they put there trust in the Sabbath or did they rely on the redeemer to come. Who is Jesus Christ and Him crucified. what else is there to trust in.
Can you follow law an be saved. I think not. No man can follow law. If so why did Jesus give Himself on the cross. If we could just follow law.
Law and Gospel
The Formula of Concord distinguished three uses, or purposes, in the Law in Article VI. It states:
"[T]he Law was given to men for three reasons. . ."
that "thereby outward discipline might be maintained against wild, disobedient men [and that wild and intractable men might be restrained, as though by certain bars]"
that "men thereby may be led to the knowledge of their sins"
that "after they are regenerate. . .they might. . .have a fixed rule according to which they are to regulate and direct their whole life"[7]
steak or chicken?
The Formula of Concord distinguished three uses, or purposes, in the Law in Article VI. It states:
"[T]he Law was given to men for three reasons. . ."
that "thereby outward discipline might be maintained against wild, disobedient men [and that wild and intractable men might be restrained, as though by certain bars]"
that "men thereby may be led to the knowledge of their sins"
that "after they are regenerate. . .they might. . .have a fixed rule according to which they are to regulate and direct their whole life"[7]
steak or chicken?
That is the offense of the cross. So many hold to their beliefs. That they are offended by the cross and reject it. Because flesh say's I can make my own way by works and observances. The only thing that God will accept is Jesus Christ and him crucified and our faith in that and nothing else. Argue with that.
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hermanodaniel
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Here's a repost of what I previously posted several pages before this one
"...the commandments mentioned in 1 John 5, Revelation 22, John 14 & 15 etc. are not references to the 10 commandments written on stone they're references to the Law of Christ. Compare John 6:28-29, 13:34-35 with 1 John 3:23. Remember context is key so when we read in 1 John that his commands are not grievous he is referring to the command given by Christ to love as He loved and John goes on to say if we don't love our brother we can't say we love God. If you haven't noticed in John 14 Jesus stated if you love me keep MY commands and in context with the previous chapter John 13:34-35 Jesus was referring to the command to love as he loves which is actually a deeper love since it requires death to our flesh hence why we must carry our cross daily. Also if you carefully examined John 15:10 you will see that Jesus stated that we are to abide in His love as he abode in His Father's revealing that the commands we are now under are His which fulfills the law for Christ's commands is to love. Jesus abode in His Father's love perfectly to the T, that is, all the commands written on stone was kept perfectly something we can never do in the flesh (sinful nature). And this is why I have made my point before that we don't serve God after the letter but in newness of the spirit. Romans 7:6 This is why Jesus contrasts over and over in the Gospels with His teachings because He is revealing the true intentions underneath. We live off every Word of God and that includes every iota but not in the sense of the letter for that understanding is veiled and is unveiled in Christ revealing the deep things of God spoke of in 1 Corinthians 2 and 2 Corinthians 3. Paul was revealed the mysteries of the Gospel and that wisdom is rooted in Christ himself for He is the Living Word of God expounding the mysteries in the written Word through the Holy Spirit our teacher. The reason we are now under the Law of Christ is because it allows to be in a position to receive from God for it requires that we die to self carrying our cross and thus being in the spirit where we can understand plainly that which we have received from God and that's all the promises which results in our glorious rest in Christ. Glory to God!"
"All I can say is carefully seek God in prayer and test what I am saying reading and comparing the verses I have cited. Keep in mind that the same John who wrote the Gospels is the same John who wrote the epistles and Revelation and in His Gospel He has defined what commandments he was talking about and has mentioned them in the Gospel he wrote. Context is always key. I am not ignoring the written word nor am I advocating that anybody should do this. The written Word has always been pointing to the Living Word of God who is Jesus Christ and His testimony whom again John wrote is the spirit of prophecy. In the end those who have understood the Word of God in the spirit has not neglected not one iota but rather has embraced it to the fullest capacity in Christ in which one day we will see COMPLETELY!"
And soforth and what with. The fact is we are nothing with out the cross. Most are offendended by the cross cause they can do nothing to obtain the free gift. Flesh say's I have to work or observe some Holy day. no it is a free gift
We can all offer and share our beliefs we will be held accountable to what we sow.
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hermanodaniel
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Again I say... "All I can say is carefully seek God in prayer and test what I am saying reading and comparing the verses I have cited. Keep in mind that the same John who wrote the Gospels is the same John who wrote the epistles and Revelation and in His Gospel He has defined what commandments he was talking about and has mentioned them in the Gospel he wrote. Context is always key. I am not ignoring the written word nor am I advocating that anybody should do this. The written Word has always been pointing to the Living Word of God who is Jesus Christ and His testimony whom again John wrote is the spirit of prophecy. In the end those who have understood the Word of God in the spirit has not neglected not one iota but rather has embraced it to the fullest capacity in Christ in which one day we will see COMPLETELY!"