HELL FIRE AND BRIM STONE

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Drett

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I do not ignore people who give me their time. Thank you for it. Not all Christians beleive in a hell of fire. It is against the Bible. I do believe in Hell. Hell is the common grave of man. Why did you turn your back on God?
Is that a loaded question ? lol
 
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Is that a loaded question ? lol
Yeah. I'll make you a deal. I won't lie to you, and I won't try to get you back with God. I just figure you might want to know the truth about him.
 
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Hell is a very real place! There are over two hundred people who are alive today who have died, went to Hell, and miraculously came back to life to tell their experiences and warn as many people as possible about the existence of Hell!

Here is one site out of many that prove Hells existence:

http://www.av1611.org/hell.html .

at this site you will see all of the scriptures that deal with the subject of Hell, and you will be able to hear an audio recording of people screaming in Hell! Please go to this site and see what it says!

elder1


 

Elizabeth619

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Hell is a very real place! There are over two hundred people who are alive today who have died, went to Hell, and miraculously came back to life to tell their experiences and warn as many people as possible about the existence of Hell!

Here is one site out of many that prove Hells existence:

http://www.av1611.org/hell.html .

at this site you will see all of the scriptures that deal with the subject of Hell, and you will be able to hear an audio recording of people screaming in Hell! Please go to this site and see what it says!

elder1

Yet another false teaching.
 
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Yet another false teaching.
did you go to the site and read all of the scripures that are posted there? did you listen to the audio recording of people screaming in hell? Or are you condenming it without first investigating it? if so, then your opinion is absolutely meaningless! No one who believes the bible to be true, and goes to that site, and reads the scriptures posted there, can come away from that site and say that Hell does not exist! Not without denying what the scriptures clearly teach!

Elder1
 

Elizabeth619

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did you go to the site and read all of the scripures that are posted there? did you listen to the audio recording of people screaming in hell? Or are you condenming it without first investigating it? if so, then your opinion is absolutely meaningless! No one who believes the bible to be true, and goes to that site, and reads the scriptures posted there, can come away from that site and say that Hell does not exist! Not without denying what the scriptures clearly teach!

Elder1
That siteis nothing new. Seen it before.
 
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That siteis nothing new. Seen it before.
then how can you possibly deny the scripures that they post there? To do so is to deny what Jesus and the apostles teach us about Hell! Remember, there are none who are so blind as those who refuse to see!

Elder1
 

Elizabeth619

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How can hell be in the center of the Earth if the earth be destroyed at the end? Along with the universe.


Read the story if the rich man and Lazarus. There is no crossing over back and forth
 

Elizabeth619

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then how can you possibly deny the scripures that they post there? To do so is to deny what Jesus and the apostles teach us about Hell! Remember, there are none who are so blind as those who refuse to see!

Elder1
Misinterpretation if scripture. I never said there wasn't a literal hell. There is. What I was disagreeing with was going to hell and back.
 
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Misinterpretation if scripture. I never said there wasn't a literal hell. There is. What I was disagreeing with was going to hell and back.
So, you beleive that no one ever rises from the dead? I have read testamonies written by ex-athiests who died and went to hell and came back to life. these men are now ministers of Jesus Christ. I sincerely doupt that these people are lying.

Elder1
 
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Abiding

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subjective experiences are not trustworthy
if they were we should all be pagans
 
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subjective experiences are not trustworthy
if they were we should all be pagans
really? So are saying that in a court of law no ones testamony is valid? thats nonsense! If a persons testamony is true, it is considered evidence that what they said is fact! Testamonys are therefor valid evidence! These people died! they came back to life! and they have given us their testamony as to what they experianced after they died. And when the testamony comes from a person who was formally an athiest, it gives it more weight! and I beleive what they say about what they experienced when they died! After all, they are giving a first hand account of what they experianced. And we should take what they say very seriously!

Elder1
 
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really? So are saying that in a court of law no ones testamony is valid? thats nonsense! If a persons testamony is true, it is considered evidence that what they said is fact! Testamonys are therefor valid evidence! These people died! they came back to life! and they have given us their testamony as to what they experianced after they died. And when the testamony comes from a person who was formally an athiest, it gives it more weight! and I beleive what they say about what they experienced when they died! After all, they are giving a first hand account of what they experianced. And we should take what they say very seriously!

Elder1
God works a tad different. He demands 2 or 3 witnesses. Evidence. Not the wonderings of the mind
alone. Im glad these experiences hapenned and hope people really got saved. But they do not provide
us the proof God commands we use for truth or doctrine.
 
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God works a tad different. He demands 2 or 3 witnesses. Evidence. Not the wonderings of the mind
alone. Im glad these experiences hapenned and hope people really got saved. But they do not provide
us the proof God commands we use for truth or doctrine.
yes, 2 or 3 witness's are required in a court of law when testifying about what someone saw another person doing. that is differant then personal testamony! I read one transformed athiest story of how he died in a hopital, went to hell, and came back to life 20 minutes later! Now there is no way that his brain was still funtioning while he was dead, because the brain ceases to funtion 4-6 minutes after blood stops being pumped to it. This man had no brain waves at all while he laid dead on the table. So what he experianced was not the result of an illusion that his brain concocted for him. This man, before he died, did not believe in an after life, and he did not believe in heaven or hell. But when he died, to his shock and suprise, he found himself getting out of his body and going to hell! This proves that you do not have to believe that hell exists in order to go there. It exists and you will go there unless you repent!

There are over 200 people who are alive today that died, and have been resurrected again. some only a few minutes after they died, some after a day or so after they had died. and they all tell of either wandering around the hospital, visiting someone, or going to heaven or hell! god is resurrcting people who have experianced these things in order to give us solid evidence that heaven and hell are real! and I would say that over 200 testamonies fulfills the requirment for 2 or 3 witness that God give us in the old testament!

have a great day.

Elder1
 
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yes, 2 or 3 witness's are required in a court of law when testifying about what someone saw another person doing. that is differant then personal testamony! I read one transformed athiest story of how he died in a hopital, went to hell, and came back to life 20 minutes later! Now there is no way that his brain was still funtioning while he was dead, because the brain ceases to funtion 4-6 minutes after blood stops being pumped to it. This man had no brain waves at all while he laid dead on the table. So what he experianced was not the result of an illusion that his brain concocted for him. This man, before he died, did not believe in an after life, and he did not believe in heaven or hell. But when he died, to his shock and suprise, he found himself getting out of his body and going to hell! This proves that you do not have to believe that hell exists in order to go there. It exists and you will go there unless you repent!

There are over 200 people who are alive today that died, and have been resurrected again. some only a few minutes after they died, some after a day or so after they had died. and they all tell of either wandering around the hospital, visiting someone, or going to heaven or hell! god is resurrcting people who have experianced these things in order to give us solid evidence that heaven and hell are real! and I would say that over 200 testamonies fulfills the requirment for 2 or 3 witness that God give us in the old testament!

have a great day.

Elder1
I hold the record for the most minutes dead in a Military Hospital.
Im only saying we cant make doctrine out of it. God has never done
anything in the world He didnt first tell His servants the prophets.
And we have no scripture for it. So we shouldnt use others hearsay as truth.

Amos 3:7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.
 
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I hold the record for the most minutes dead in a Military Hospital.
Im only saying we cant make doctrine out of it. God has never done
anything in the world He didnt first tell His servants the prophets.
And we have no scripture for it. So we shouldnt use others hearsay as truth.

Amos 3:7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.
How long were you dead for and what did you experiance?

And what a person experiances after death is not a herisy if it is in line with what the scriptures teach!

Elder1
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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hell exists and there is fire there...and evidently worms too...and those who go there suffer for eternity...

i doubt it is or ever will be on earth or at the center of the earth though...
 
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nathan3

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Domenic. I'm in agreement with you. ( just I think the verses you quoted are for the body : But i want to help you out with the soul )->

; I said I was not going to post but wanted to bring attention to this verse. What many don't realize is the Bible speaks in figures of speech when trying to teach some times. But here is a place where it does not use a figure of speech :


Matthew 10:28

King James Version (KJV)

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


You can see that it clearly says, that God can " destroy " the soul, in hell. So the person does not burn forever as the figure of speech says, but the underling teaching is this, That the lake of fire, or today known as hell, does destroy the soul, it does not cause that soul to suffer. The rich man however when you read about him , is not in hell, but that fire is his own, showing his emotional state , that he is in danger of going to the lake of fire, but hes in heaven, just as Satan is as Revelation 12 sates. because Judgment day did not happen yet. Hope that verse helps some one and that they dont over, read it.
 
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Professor

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Hey Crossnote,
I was thinking about this today. I can't remember where in scripture it discusses Jesus going to hell and back. Thanks. I checked the gospels and didn't find it. Perhaps I missed it?

You quoted two verses from the OT where revelation was still partial yet you seem to ignore tons of Scriptures on hell and the torment involved as described by Jesus...One who has been there and back.
 
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Professor

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I absolutely agree. My grandmother, a staunch atheist, was dragged into hell by a bunch of demons at her death. She was screaming in terror. I was an atheist at the time and thought she was hallucinating. But when I was saved in July, God freed me from a demon. Praise God for that, that He did not allow me to die in my sins! Hell is very real.

Hell is a very real place! There are over two hundred people who are alive today who have died, went to Hell, and miraculously came back to life to tell their experiences and warn as many people as possible about the existence of Hell!

Here is one site out of many that prove Hells existence:

http://www.av1611.org/hell.html .

at this site you will see all of the scriptures that deal with the subject of Hell, and you will be able to hear an audio recording of people screaming in Hell! Please go to this site and see what it says!

elder1