Pete, Pete, Pete.
i thought we were going to talk about history honestly and rationally
"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers...where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear....it is a national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international political issue....Zionism" [will provide a] "final solution of the Jewish question."
Theodor Herzl, "Der Kongress," Welt, June 4, 1897.
what? Herzl coined the term final solution?
and he was talking about jews leaving Germany because they WANTED TO?
Communication for Negotiations to Hitler's Government for Emmigration out of Germany for Jews who desired to preserve their own racial purity. Admitting Jewry's Declaration of War on Germany wasn't a good idea.
"Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition. Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear...
...Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective responsibility...
....We believe it is precisely the new Germany that can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be dealt with by most European peoples...
...Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities. Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and internal sympathy ...
....For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially the German people...
...Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build...
....We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples....."
Zionist Federation of Germany
Memo of June 21, 1933
L. Dawidowicz, A Holocaust Reader, New York: Behrman, 1976
Pete?
can we talk?
i thought we were going to talk about history honestly and rationally
"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers...where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear....it is a national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international political issue....Zionism" [will provide a] "final solution of the Jewish question."
Theodor Herzl, "Der Kongress," Welt, June 4, 1897.
what? Herzl coined the term final solution?
and he was talking about jews leaving Germany because they WANTED TO?
Communication for Negotiations to Hitler's Government for Emmigration out of Germany for Jews who desired to preserve their own racial purity. Admitting Jewry's Declaration of War on Germany wasn't a good idea.
"Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition. Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear...
...Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective responsibility...
....We believe it is precisely the new Germany that can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be dealt with by most European peoples...
...Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities. Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and internal sympathy ...
....For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially the German people...
...Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build...
....We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples....."
Zionist Federation of Germany
Memo of June 21, 1933
L. Dawidowicz, A Holocaust Reader, New York: Behrman, 1976
Pete?
can we talk?
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