I have come to respect many of the members here for their knowledge and input. Sometimes when I'm reading Genesis a few things might make more sense if there was other people created. Lately there seems to be quite a focus on creation so it got me pondering again about it. Please share some of your conclusions on the subject. Thanks.
Adam and Eve only?
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When Cain is banished the Bible says
If this is not the family of Seth them who is it?
The Bible says Adam and Eve were first and were in the garden (the words for garden and paradise are the same).
It does not say that God didn't create other men and women outside the garden.
Obviously they did though they will not have had the long lives of those in the garden who could eat from the Tree of Life until they were forced to leave (for exactly that reason).
So by the time Cain killed Abel there could well have been a thriving population outside the garden.
If this is not the family of Seth them who is it?
The Bible says Adam and Eve were first and were in the garden (the words for garden and paradise are the same).
It does not say that God didn't create other men and women outside the garden.
Obviously they did though they will not have had the long lives of those in the garden who could eat from the Tree of Life until they were forced to leave (for exactly that reason).
So by the time Cain killed Abel there could well have been a thriving population outside the garden.
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I high high-lighted the verses that can help, and I focused on the verses that show the days that have passed, up until the 6th day, and I post the verses for the 6th day, that answers your question .
Genesis 1
King James Version (KJV)
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
So you can read, that people were created here on the 6th day.
The next day is the 7th, in the which God did nothing that day.
Then the next day after the 7th; God created Adam & Eve.
Listening to the verses above , without reading anything else into I. The conclusion is that God created people on the 6th day just as it says. Nothing more, nothing less.
Genesis 1
King James Version (KJV)
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
So you can read, that people were created here on the 6th day.
The next day is the 7th, in the which God did nothing that day.
Then the next day after the 7th; God created Adam & Eve.
Listening to the verses above , without reading anything else into I. The conclusion is that God created people on the 6th day just as it says. Nothing more, nothing less.
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It can be plural in the way it can mean mankind but that is a spin-off from it's source meaning which is "ruddy one" or "one full of blood"
I think the plural comes from the singular in much the same way it does in English (an unusual coincidence I expect).
"A man was caught reading the Bible in public in Leeds and frowned at"
"It's sad that man has dropped so low that a person reading the Bible would be frowned at"
I think Adam is used the same way - mostly singular, but sometimes about mankind - or a mix - like here in Genesis maybe.
Of course when Jesus uses the term "Son of Man" it is a different matter (I'll not go into now as it would derail the topic I expect) and I don't wish to.
I think the plural comes from the singular in much the same way it does in English (an unusual coincidence I expect).
"A man was caught reading the Bible in public in Leeds and frowned at"
"It's sad that man has dropped so low that a person reading the Bible would be frowned at"
I think Adam is used the same way - mostly singular, but sometimes about mankind - or a mix - like here in Genesis maybe.
Of course when Jesus uses the term "Son of Man" it is a different matter (I'll not go into now as it would derail the topic I expect) and I don't wish to.
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Romans 5:12 Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin; and so death passed unto all men, for that all sinned:--
If there was others beside Adam and Eve we would have two races...a sinless and a sinful race i.e. one that dies and one that does not die. That is just not the case.
If there was others beside Adam and Eve we would have two races...a sinless and a sinful race i.e. one that dies and one that does not die. That is just not the case.
This is where I have conflict. Genesis 2 seems to backtrack. It states in verse five that before the vegetation sprung up on the earth God planted a garden to the east in Eden and there He put Adam. It seems that Adam predates the other creatures. The vegetation would have had to grow to sustain the livestock then the creatures were created apparently. Then it seems men and women were created.
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Genesis 1 talks about creation "bara". Gen. 2 talks about creation "asher". "Bara" is to give purpose, "asher" is to give shape or physical reality. Gen. 1 deals with the stages in God's plan, Gen. 2 deals with the order they were completed on earth. That's why the order is different. It's also why God can create all the people who ever lived at one time, but why there is only one man and one woman sinning, and they are the parents of everyone else.
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1 Corinthians 15:38
King James Version (KJV)
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
Everyone is divers
The only difference between Adam & Eve and the 6th day peoples, is that Adam & Eve is who Christ would come, to give salvation to all peoples. no matter who you are. So Israel and the 6th day peoples all on the planet are there to take part of Salvation.
Christ would come through Adam and Eve. that is the important difference. That is how it all applies .
King James Version (KJV)
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
Everyone is divers
The only difference between Adam & Eve and the 6th day peoples, is that Adam & Eve is who Christ would come, to give salvation to all peoples. no matter who you are. So Israel and the 6th day peoples all on the planet are there to take part of Salvation.
Christ would come through Adam and Eve. that is the important difference. That is how it all applies .
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