Adam and Eve only?

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I confess I can't read Hebrew. That's pretty much why I was gathering some info, hopefully from sources who can. Whether I get all the answers I'm looking for or not, isn't going to shake my faith in the least. However just by looking for answers and rebuttals I'm finding answers to questions I didn't even know I had. I'm enjoying the learning to process. I'm sorry if some are getting frustrated.
 
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This is the word GOD would of used if HE meant HIS messanger or my messanger מַלְאָכִי
 

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Lets try this again. what does this mean בְנֵי-הָאֱלֹהִים ps.
I'm in the middle of getting tea but just to say that nowhere were "angels" called "B'ney Ha'Ehohiym" (בְנֵי-הָאֱלֹהִים), "Sons of the God!" To the contrary angels are, "Mal'akhi 'Elohiym" (מַלְאֲכֵי אֱלֹהִים) or "Messengers of God."
(From the internet)

These are the children of Elohim who were judges and magistrates and that is what the Hebrew word is in Gen 6:4.
 
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The above post is the word malachi sorry I forgot to give you that.
 
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Stop trying ps you are WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

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funny topic

who would have thought the word of god to have so many meanings

its kinda funny that the whole forum is called bible disscussion
 
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Keep drinking tea ps you should stop giving people koolaid Your ideas and your understanding is wrong.
 
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Yeah for CC to learn not to pervert the word of GOD line on line Isa 28;10 not peoples idea. That is why GOD gives HIS truth not my truth or your truth Why do you kick against HIS word I do not understand it makes no sense
 

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Stop trying ps you are WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Show me where. Saying I am wrong is not good enough.

Gen 6:4 does not say they were the sons of Jehovah it says they were the sons of Elohim.

This applies to the children of human rulers for example the Roman Emperor Augustus referred to his relationship with his adoptive father, Julius Caesar as being the "son of a God."
 
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Yeah for CC to learn not to pervert the word of GOD line on line Isa 28;10 not peoples idea. That is why GOD gives HIS truth not my truth or your truth Why do you kick against HIS word I do not understand it makes no sense
It makes more sense for people to marry each other than to marry angels.
 
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You are right there is no JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ in hebrew from the aleph all the way to the tov. You have all ready admitted to not being able to read HEBREW I just showed you in the text sons of GOD direct creations from GOD = YHWH =YESHUA = JESUS context contex context content content content culture culture culture! I gave you all the verses that deal with the direcrt creation of GOD Gen. 6;2 6;4 and so on. JUST STOP.
 
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Again you dont understand the scripture I will show you on a PM if you will listen if you really want to learn. I can teach you. I will not teach Biblical Hebrew on an open thread that would be crazy I could not keep up with all the questions people would be asking. More to the point GOD is not the author of confusion and I dont want to confuse anyone.
 

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You are right there is no JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ in hebrew from the aleph all the way to the tov. You have all ready admitted to not being able to read HEBREW I just showed you in the text sons of GOD direct creations from GOD = YHWH =YESHUA = JESUS context contex context content content content culture culture culture! I gave you all the verses that deal with the direcrt creation of GOD Gen. 6;2 6;4 and so on. JUST STOP.
There you are, it says they were the sons of Elohim and not H3068 yehôvâh yeh-ho-vaw'
 
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There you are, it says they were the sons of Elohim and not H3068 yehôvâh yeh-ho-vaw'
Elohim means the powers of YHWH it is not HIS NAME LESSON ONE. Remember it is context ps content ps and culture! Believe what you want ps I hope you figure it out. I would run from those who are teaching you such things I have read in some of your posts in this thread. Back in the day they would have been stoned and I dont mean Marijuana LOL Let no man deceive you no matter how many letters he puts in front of his name PHD can mean post hole digger.
 

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Elohim means the powers of YHWH it is not HIS NAME LESSON ONE. Remember it is context ps content ps and culture! Believe what you want ps I hope you figure it out. I would run from those who are teaching you such things I have read in some of your posts in this thread. Back in the day they would have been stoned and I dont mean Marijuana LOL Let no man deceive you no matter how many letters he puts in front of his name PHD can mean post hole digger.
Are you a Rabbis?

The numerous names for God have been a source of debate among biblical scholars. Elohim (god, or authority, plural form), El (mighty one), El Shaddai (almighty), Adonai (master), Elyon (highest), Avinu (our father), are regarded by many religious Jews not as names, but as titles highlighting different aspects of YHWH and the various 'roles' of God.
Other Jewish sources believe that the use of various names of God in the Hebrew Bible, and the fact that Elohim is a plural word suggests a polytheistic origin. Thus the ancient Rabbis went to great lengths to try to account for the number of the names of God, by claiming that they account for the various aspects of God.
 
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A rabbi is the last person I would talk to about the word of GOD. I know far to well about there lies that they spit out of there mouths most if not all the problems in the world are based on people calling them selves rabbis. Get some one on here calling them self a rabbi and we will go through the word of GOD. We will start at the beginning and then we will see who is a rabbi and who is a son of GOD they are not the same. PS let see who shows up, to funny. I will be waiting If you are wanting to see how it would turn out just look at acts 7 little Stephen who do you think those people were with the STONES wake up from the lies PS and bring those rabbi clowns here the word of GOD will still make them nash there teeth. PM me and set up the time.

To answer your qestion direct I am not a rabbi but I have talk with them and Guess what they had no ANSWERS.
There is only one great one YESHUA. Man and his ego to funny I will be waiting.
 

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A rabbi is the last person I would talk to about the word of GOD. I know far to well about there lies that they spit out of there mouths most if not all the problems in the world are based on people calling them selves rabbis. Get some one on here calling them self a rabbi and we will go through the word of GOD. We will start at the beginning and then we will see who is a rabbi and who is a son of GOD they are not the same. PS let see who shows up, to funny. I will be waiting If you are wanting to see how it would turn out just look at acts 7 little Stephen who do you think those people were with the STONES wake up from the lies PS and bring those rabbi clowns here the word of GOD will still make them nash there teeth. PM me and set up the time.

To answer your qestion direct I am not a rabbi but I have talk with them and Guess what they had no ANSWERS.
There is only one great one YESHUA. Man and his ego to funny I will be waiting.
I agree with what you say about the religious Jews, Jesus thought the same. :)

However we are into the early part of the Tanakh when multiple deities were worshiped, see HERE for example.

Just quickly to give you one instance while Moses was receiving the commandments from the LORD Aaron his brother was making the Golden Calf who he called LORD.

They worshiped multiple gods, false gods, and some of them like the judges and magistrates were human gods, their children were the sons of god and I am thinking it is these who married the giants in which case we have the sons of god marrying heathens and this intermarriage several generations down the line caused corruption among the nation.
 
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I'm beginning to wonder whether starting this thread is going to result in clarity or more confusion. Right out of the gate we have two conflicting theories. I've heard good debate for both sides.
depends. are you praying and asking God to reveal His truth on the topic?
 
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I agree with what you say about the religious Jews, Jesus thought the same. :)

However we are into the early part of the Tanakh when multiple deities were worshiped, see HERE for example.

Just quickly to give you one instance while Moses was receiving the commandments from the LORD Aaron his brother was making the Golden Calf who he called LORD.

They worshiped multiple gods, false gods, and some of them like the judges and magistrates were human gods, their children were the sons of god and I am thinking it is these who married the giants in which case we have the sons of god marrying heathens and this intermarriage several generations down the line caused corruption among the nation.
This would just turn into a bunny trail so let us stop. I will give you this. The letter ALEPH is a picture of a ox head Aaron thought he was doing a good thing but GOD said NO GRAVEN IMAGES. If you keep the story in context you will understand. But like anything we as people try to do outside of the instructions GOD gives us, well it will become perverted just like what happened. I know for a fact a guy calling himself a rabbi would never debate me he knows he has everything to loses and nothing to gain. That is the point of the word of GOD do not add or subtract this is the problem. Plus mans ego LOL Please be careful PS there is a force at work and it has an agenda that is not of GOD. Blessings
 

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This would just turn into a bunny trail so let us stop. I will give you this. The letter ALEPH is a picture of a ox head Aaron thought he was doing a good thing but GOD said NO GRAVEN IMAGES. If you keep the story in context you will understand. But like anything we as people try to do outside of the instructions GOD gives us, well it will become perverted just like what happened. I know for a fact a guy calling himself a rabbi would never debate me he knows he has everything to loses and nothing to gain. That is the point of the word of GOD do not add or subtract this is the problem. Plus mans ego LOL Please be careful PS there is a force at work and it has an agenda that is not of GOD. Blessings
God bless, and may He keep us all safe.