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its coming down for you an I and all the rest of Gods children after this heaven and earth (and Jerusalem) passes away.
But this has nothing to do with What God gave Abraham and his natural descendants.. The land he gave them is still there. thus it still belongs to them, and if they repent and follow his true savior.. he will allow them to have it again.
that is what an eternal promise does.
But this has nothing to do with What God gave Abraham and his natural descendants.. The land he gave them is still there. thus it still belongs to them, and if they repent and follow his true savior.. he will allow them to have it again.
that is what an eternal promise does.
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I have seen the righteous judged and the guilty go free here so I no longer want to post. The information you are asking for is a free download for all at: Bible Prophecy - Ellis Skolfield
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Comment on Chronological order of Daniel (The Bible)
Daniel 7 -12;
Read Daniel 7 then 8 then 10, Cyrus in Daniel 10 :
Daniel 10
1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
Then read Daniel 5
Daniel5
30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain. 31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.[SUP]19 20 [/SUP]
Then read Daniel 9, 11, 12
Daniel 7 -12;
Read Daniel 7 then 8 then 10, Cyrus in Daniel 10 :
Daniel 10
1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
Then read Daniel 5
Daniel5
30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain. 31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.[SUP]19 20 [/SUP]
Then read Daniel 9, 11, 12
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Act_5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
\2Co_2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
2Co_12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
1Co_5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
\2Co_2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
2Co_12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
1Co_5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
FPC _Jackson
A Brief Background to Dispensationalism
The dispensational system of theology, if we are honest, is actually a Nineteenth Century phenomenon. Now I don’t want to get into an argument about these things. I know many good dispensationalists like to trace elements of dispensational teaching and belief way back into the history of the church. But as a historical theologian, and that is what I am by profession, I can pretty confidentially tell you that the system of dispensational theology is a Nineteenth Century phenomenon in the history of the church. It is particularly associated with John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren movement in Britain in the Nineteenth Century, and in America, with the name C.I. Scoffield, Cyrus Ingersoll Scoffield.
The dispensational movement created its own seminary in Dallas. And has for many years had control of a very theological journal, called, Bibliotheca Sacra, that has been sort of the official journal for dispensationalism. And many of you are aware of Dallas Seminary and of Bib Sac and of folks in the Bible Church movement, who would be very much indebted to the dispensationalist tradition.
Differences - Eschatological
Now, the differences between Dipensationalism and Covenant Theology are not mainly in the area of Eschatology. When we say Eschatology, we are talking about usually the end time and especially the time of the coming of Christ. Dispensationalists are premillenial, because it is essential to their theological system, it is perhaps the fundamental point of Dispensationalism that Israel and the Church are distinct, and the Law-Gospel distinction must be preserved at all costs. That is the very heart and core of classic dispensationalism. You should never, ever mix up Law and Gospel, and you should never ever mix up Israel and the Church
Differences – Literal Israel and the Church
Now, as we have said, eschatology is not the fundamental difference between Covenant Theology and dispensationalism, but eschatology is simply an implication of the fundamental difference. The fundamental difference is actually seen in the difference between Israel and the church.
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Covenant Theology sees all believers in essential continuity. There are not two peoples of God. There is one people of God.
Covenant Theology going back to its concept of the Church and God’s sovereign election from before the Creation, strenuously argues that there is only one people of God in all ages and there is only one destiny for all the people of God.
Dispensationalism, however, contends that God has two peoples with two destinies.
And again, I am speaking of a classic form of dispensationalism.
The two peoples of God, Israel and the Church, have two separate destinies.
They see Israel, with the earthly millennial reign of David in the land of Israel restored to its Davidic and Solomonic boundaries.
For the Church, there is heaven.
So, for the dispensationalist, there are two peoples and two separate destinies.
Dispensationalism = TWO COVENANTS
TWO COVENANTS = DUAL COVENANT
Dual-covenant theology is a Christian view of the Old Covenant which holds that Jews may simply keep the Law of Moses, because of the "everlasting covenant" (Genesis 17:13) between Abraham and God expressed in the Hebrew Bible, whereas Gentiles (those not Jews or Jewish proselytes) must convert to Christianity or alternatively accept the Seven Laws of Noah to be assured of a place in the World to Come.
Many forms of Christianity, especially Conservative Protestants, consider this view to be heresy
A Brief Background to Dispensationalism
The dispensational system of theology, if we are honest, is actually a Nineteenth Century phenomenon. Now I don’t want to get into an argument about these things. I know many good dispensationalists like to trace elements of dispensational teaching and belief way back into the history of the church. But as a historical theologian, and that is what I am by profession, I can pretty confidentially tell you that the system of dispensational theology is a Nineteenth Century phenomenon in the history of the church. It is particularly associated with John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren movement in Britain in the Nineteenth Century, and in America, with the name C.I. Scoffield, Cyrus Ingersoll Scoffield.
The dispensational movement created its own seminary in Dallas. And has for many years had control of a very theological journal, called, Bibliotheca Sacra, that has been sort of the official journal for dispensationalism. And many of you are aware of Dallas Seminary and of Bib Sac and of folks in the Bible Church movement, who would be very much indebted to the dispensationalist tradition.
Differences - Eschatological
Now, the differences between Dipensationalism and Covenant Theology are not mainly in the area of Eschatology. When we say Eschatology, we are talking about usually the end time and especially the time of the coming of Christ. Dispensationalists are premillenial, because it is essential to their theological system, it is perhaps the fundamental point of Dispensationalism that Israel and the Church are distinct, and the Law-Gospel distinction must be preserved at all costs. That is the very heart and core of classic dispensationalism. You should never, ever mix up Law and Gospel, and you should never ever mix up Israel and the Church
Differences – Literal Israel and the Church
Now, as we have said, eschatology is not the fundamental difference between Covenant Theology and dispensationalism, but eschatology is simply an implication of the fundamental difference. The fundamental difference is actually seen in the difference between Israel and the church.
......
Covenant Theology sees all believers in essential continuity. There are not two peoples of God. There is one people of God.
Covenant Theology going back to its concept of the Church and God’s sovereign election from before the Creation, strenuously argues that there is only one people of God in all ages and there is only one destiny for all the people of God.
Dispensationalism, however, contends that God has two peoples with two destinies.
And again, I am speaking of a classic form of dispensationalism.
The two peoples of God, Israel and the Church, have two separate destinies.
They see Israel, with the earthly millennial reign of David in the land of Israel restored to its Davidic and Solomonic boundaries.
For the Church, there is heaven.
So, for the dispensationalist, there are two peoples and two separate destinies.
Dispensationalism = TWO COVENANTS
TWO COVENANTS = DUAL COVENANT
Dual-covenant theology is a Christian view of the Old Covenant which holds that Jews may simply keep the Law of Moses, because of the "everlasting covenant" (Genesis 17:13) between Abraham and God expressed in the Hebrew Bible, whereas Gentiles (those not Jews or Jewish proselytes) must convert to Christianity or alternatively accept the Seven Laws of Noah to be assured of a place in the World to Come.
Many forms of Christianity, especially Conservative Protestants, consider this view to be heresy
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to apologize, and if you ever decide to make amends and just say thank you for continuing to post on the very errors you have believed and taught, since i see you backing away from much of it.
you don't have the integrity for that, but i offer you the opportunity anyway.
to apologize, and if you ever decide to make amends and just say thank you for continuing to post on the very errors you have believed and taught, since i see you backing away from much of it.
you don't have the integrity for that, but i offer you the opportunity anyway.
that's okay...God will eventually get rid of or subjugate all the gentiles there.
right?
then there will be peace (not).
after the Synagogue of Satan continues on with it's expansionist and ethnic cleansing policies, one day evangelicals will say SEE!! no goyim left in the LAND!
ALL GLORY TO GOD!
He fulfilled His Promise to Israel and it's 'a Jews Only Stat'e - from the Euphrates to the Nile.
Greater Israel is a controversial expression with several different Biblical and political meanings over time.
Currently, the most common definition of the land encompassed by the term is the territory of the State of Israel together with the Palestinian territories. Other earlier definitions, favored by Revisionist Zionism, included the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine (with or without Transjordan, which developed independently after 1923). Other religious uses refer to one of the Biblical definitions of the Land of Israel found in Genesis 15:18-21, Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15 or Ezekiel 47:13-20.
Greater Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
just like the Pharisees and Talmud said.
just like so-called-jews who abhor Jesus and despise goyim, but want that LAND said all along (through oral teachings and secret proceedings and secrets societies and secret oaths).
yep....all the Dispensationalists will cheer when there's another Six-Day type carnal 'victory' - for people who spit when Jesus of Nazareth is named among them..
oh yes...The Father doesn't mind at all.
He's juggling two peoples and two convenants so He'll overlook the Sonbeing trampled....the Church is Plan B and a blip anyways.
and the LAND didn't become the WHOLE WORLD in Paul's teachings....as the Great Stone cut without hands became a Mountain and filled THE WHOLE EARTH.
no, this is about something else entirely. nothing salvic.
right?
then there will be peace (not).
after the Synagogue of Satan continues on with it's expansionist and ethnic cleansing policies, one day evangelicals will say SEE!! no goyim left in the LAND!
ALL GLORY TO GOD!
He fulfilled His Promise to Israel and it's 'a Jews Only Stat'e - from the Euphrates to the Nile.
Greater Israel is a controversial expression with several different Biblical and political meanings over time.
Currently, the most common definition of the land encompassed by the term is the territory of the State of Israel together with the Palestinian territories. Other earlier definitions, favored by Revisionist Zionism, included the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine (with or without Transjordan, which developed independently after 1923). Other religious uses refer to one of the Biblical definitions of the Land of Israel found in Genesis 15:18-21, Deuteronomy 11:24, Deuteronomy 1:7, Numbers 34:1-15 or Ezekiel 47:13-20.
Greater Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
just like the Pharisees and Talmud said.
just like so-called-jews who abhor Jesus and despise goyim, but want that LAND said all along (through oral teachings and secret proceedings and secrets societies and secret oaths).
yep....all the Dispensationalists will cheer when there's another Six-Day type carnal 'victory' - for people who spit when Jesus of Nazareth is named among them..
oh yes...The Father doesn't mind at all.
He's juggling two peoples and two convenants so He'll overlook the Sonbeing trampled....the Church is Plan B and a blip anyways.
and the LAND didn't become the WHOLE WORLD in Paul's teachings....as the Great Stone cut without hands became a Mountain and filled THE WHOLE EARTH.
no, this is about something else entirely. nothing salvic.
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to apologize, and if you ever decide to make amends and just say thank you for continuing to post on the very errors you have believed and taught, since i see you backing away from much of it.
you don't have the integrity for that, but i offer you the opportunity anyway.
to apologize, and if you ever decide to make amends and just say thank you for continuing to post on the very errors you have believed and taught, since i see you backing away from much of it.
you don't have the integrity for that, but i offer you the opportunity anyway.
