Queen James "Bible" PerVersion
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yes i think that one will not last..granted i to do not care for all the stuff this guy says about other translations..as i am ok with the common english bible,the AMP,the NIV(not my favorite at all but many use it and its been trusted even in seminaries etc),and my favorites, the VOICE,and the 1909 reina valera aka the antigua(many spanish purist fundamentalists only go with the gomez bible or the reina valera purificada/purified which supposedly is equivalent to the king james)
not hating on the king james..its a good copy/translation for sure..
the queen james..eh..you will see that it wont go anywhere..i predict that it will be a failure..
not hating on the king james..its a good copy/translation for sure..
the queen james..eh..you will see that it wont go anywhere..i predict that it will be a failure..
The King James Bible is God's perfect, inerrant, infallible and pure word.
I encourage you rauleetoe to study the Bible Version Issue and to see the corruption in the CEV, NIV, CEB, and the Voice, and many of the other modern translations and bible versions.
The NIV has already gone through a major revision. Just compare the 2011 NIV with the 1984 NIV and you will know what I mean.
The NIV was partially translated at a Catholic university in Salamanca, where Ignatius Loyola (the founder of the Jesuits) was trained. And it was translated under the supervision of the Vatican. All modern versions beginning from the Revised Version of 1881 up to today are yoked up to the Roman Catholic church, because they have Roman Catholic Manuscripts for their underlying authority. And that is why they all stem from the Jesuit's Douay Rheims bible of 1610. The Authorized King James 1611 Bible is the only protestant Bible that is on the market today and it is the only Bible on the market today that can be traced back to the legacy of the Early Christian Martyrs who were killed and burned at the stake for the word of God and for their faith. And the Early Christian Martyrs were tortured, burned and killed by the Roman Catholic church. The Roman Catholic Church hates the King James Bible, because it is God's word.
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I will not even spell out what I think of the QJV.. abomination!
Sorry Nautilus, you have been sorely misinformed. I'm not here to argue, but I cannot let this statement stand.
The KJV was the closest to correct in 1611. Languages change and the vernacular changes. I am a Greek and I am a Greek scholar. In spite of the KJV only diehard thumpers, the KJV has errors in translation from the original Greek. The Greek language uses one word for one meaning. In the English, one word can have many meanings. Such as, I love you, I love cats, I love donuts, I love God.
When the New Testament was translated from the original Greek (koine) , the King James translaters, chose the very best possible English word for the very precise Greek word originally used. Since many of the english words are not precise, some Greek words were translated into phrases, not precise, but as close as humanly possible. There are no errors in the KJV significant enough to nullify intended meanings, but the translation is far from perfect and is certainly not pure or "inspired" as many KJV only people believe.
Americans especially stopped buying the KJV because as our vernacular and cultural english evolved, many of the old english words and phrases made no sense were not easily understandable.
No translation is perfect, because the people who translate are not perfect. The only New Testament version that is "God's perfect, inerrant, infallible and pure word" is that which was inspired by God, and written in the Koine Greek.
I think it's dangerous to declare what is God's perfect and pure anything, unless you are quoting scripture itself!
Sorry Nautilus, you have been sorely misinformed. I'm not here to argue, but I cannot let this statement stand.
The KJV was the closest to correct in 1611. Languages change and the vernacular changes. I am a Greek and I am a Greek scholar. In spite of the KJV only diehard thumpers, the KJV has errors in translation from the original Greek. The Greek language uses one word for one meaning. In the English, one word can have many meanings. Such as, I love you, I love cats, I love donuts, I love God.
When the New Testament was translated from the original Greek (koine) , the King James translaters, chose the very best possible English word for the very precise Greek word originally used. Since many of the english words are not precise, some Greek words were translated into phrases, not precise, but as close as humanly possible. There are no errors in the KJV significant enough to nullify intended meanings, but the translation is far from perfect and is certainly not pure or "inspired" as many KJV only people believe.
Americans especially stopped buying the KJV because as our vernacular and cultural english evolved, many of the old english words and phrases made no sense were not easily understandable.
No translation is perfect, because the people who translate are not perfect. The only New Testament version that is "God's perfect, inerrant, infallible and pure word" is that which was inspired by God, and written in the Koine Greek.
I think it's dangerous to declare what is God's perfect and pure anything, unless you are quoting scripture itself!
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They should have called it 'Drama Queen Bible instead.' 
Attracting attention is all the gay community wants. So let's just ignore this latest product of liberal theologists, or else we are just giving the gays what they crave: the attention they so desperately need, and the satisfaction of seeing us outraged again.
Attracting attention is all the gay community wants. So let's just ignore this latest product of liberal theologists, or else we are just giving the gays what they crave: the attention they so desperately need, and the satisfaction of seeing us outraged again.
In speaking with many Catholic priests over time they have informed me that they do not read the Holy Bible directly. Likewise, some Catholics whom I have asked if they are "Born Again" have looked at me funny and have told me they don't know what that means. Your mention of the R.C.C. also brings to mind the fact that they use missalets during Mass. That is of course not using The Holy Bible so what do you and others think about that practice?
I blame the modern Christian church for this queen bible, look around and you will see many denominations hiring gay clergy, marrying gay couples, and promoting the greatest lie leading millions into perdition, telling them they can be a practicing homosexual, and still go to heaven, as long as they just believe in Jesus!
This I kid you not is the message being sold today, and many lost and ignorant homosexuals, are buying it!
Now the homosexual agenda is a hot topic today, where soon thier rights will be better than us few preaching truth, such as repentance and faith proven by deeds!
Yes this book, along with this agenda, is an abomination to God, He is still waiting patiently for repentance on the scale of Nineveh, but it will not happen unless the lukewarm churches today get tough, and preach the truth on these issues and many more.
Now will we start to see other bibles where other sins of the flesh are taken out, such a fornication, adultery, drunkenness etc????
What a mess this worlds is in now, ever since repentance, faith,and heart purity followed by obedience was thrown out in place of tolerance, love the sinner, original sin,faith alone,and a host of other false and deadly doctrines polluting the church world today!
Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
This I kid you not is the message being sold today, and many lost and ignorant homosexuals, are buying it!
Now the homosexual agenda is a hot topic today, where soon thier rights will be better than us few preaching truth, such as repentance and faith proven by deeds!
Yes this book, along with this agenda, is an abomination to God, He is still waiting patiently for repentance on the scale of Nineveh, but it will not happen unless the lukewarm churches today get tough, and preach the truth on these issues and many more.
Now will we start to see other bibles where other sins of the flesh are taken out, such a fornication, adultery, drunkenness etc????
What a mess this worlds is in now, ever since repentance, faith,and heart purity followed by obedience was thrown out in place of tolerance, love the sinner, original sin,faith alone,and a host of other false and deadly doctrines polluting the church world today!
Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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boy oh boy..here we go with catholic conspiracy once again! I am going to say this..I being not a catholic..though some have assumed I am a catholic because i do not see the catholic as my opponent..I have much more in common with a catholic who believes that Christ died for all than the high calvinist 'protestant' who does not even believe John 3:16-17..and has to put in his/her own definition of what is evidently said here.
I do believe the 'queen james' is a satanic perversion..but to say all other english translations are the work of roman catholicism? Seriously? That is not only erroneous, but few believe this.
I will say this, i can agree with KingJamesonlists in this one thing..pretty much all Kjvonlyists are not calvinists, and me opposing reform theology as strongly as they do makes us workers on the same team. I hope that those who feel that their KJV is superior, for whatever reason..would see that catholics are not your enemy..yes many are not saved..many do not have a relationship..but there are some catholics who actually are saved(surprised?) yes..
Just like like some baptists,presbyterians,methodists,pentecostals,charismatics,(insert whatever label you stick on your forehead)right here**
The church affiliation is not as important as much as what do you with Jesus? Do you accept his free gift of salvation? Or do you choose your own way and reject it?
The saved roman catholic is a worker in the field as am I, as is the southern baptist..that non denom tongue praying guy over there..etc etc.
As far as faith..I put my trust in Jesus, and not in some Bible translation..not all speak english, not all read english as well as you and I do..we do not speak elizabethian English anymore..and the spanish bible existed before the 1611 kjv..so why not we all just read the bible in spanish? The same error about the KJV being the only option lead some fundamental baptists to try to 'purify' the reina valera spanish bible and taking the 1602 and rushing the OT translation which made it only 'half pure' as the OT did not read on par with the KJV OT. And if you are not reading the 1611 KJV..you are reading a revision actually..if i was to be a KJVonlyist..this is the version i would use..the original. Oh btw, i hate to break it to you, but that guy Erasmus who helped translate the bible, he was a catholic..and the original KJV1611 had the apocrypha did it not?
Once again, these things do little to bring us together..they divide..I agree..the queen james is a joke..it will fail, trust me..i lose no sleep over this..but yea, that video you used i have not watched it but that guy is always super angry, kind of a bad example for a kvonlyist..ive seen other kjvonlyist who seemed like they are better examples/proponents for the kjvonly view. But this guy, he is just an angry man who makes it seem one is not right with God unless you read the KJV and only the KJV.
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You must understand that this is a only a small fragment of the body that holds to this KJVonly stance..what seems to be a new wave and trend is the ESV proponents out there replacing their KJVs with english standard version bibles. The NKJV will be a good option..there will be those here who will tell you to burn all the others but the KJV..this is merely an opinion and an extreme one at that..sure, keep a KJV on hand if you wanna use it for cross reference..but i know many who simply do not get it or understand it..i gave several copies of the gospel of John to a coworker who had issues understand the KJV, gave him ESV copies, though its not a translation i read..he enjoyed them and said i helped him understand..so, yes..modern english options are out there..just know many here have many different views..regarding salvation, predestination, gifts of the spirit, cessationism..bible translations..works/no works/grace only gospel..etc.
Just study to show yourself approved..take all that folks say here with a grain of salt, and line it up with what the Word says..be blessed neighbor.
Just study to show yourself approved..take all that folks say here with a grain of salt, and line it up with what the Word says..be blessed neighbor.
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I agree with you - especially about the Koine Greek. I myself do not place the KJV as being 'equal' to the original Koine Greek Text. However, I would like to add that I believe - even today - the KJV is STILL the closest to the original Koine Greek (particularly with regard to being the 'pure word'). ALL of the modern English translations have lost even more of the definition of the original 'very precice Greek words' - which you were very correct to state (because it is true). Even the NKJV - in dropping all of the 'thee's and 'thou's, etc. - has done a great dis-service to the reader.
(And, I am not even mentioning perversions, here - but, that which is lost from the original meaning of words in the original language - because it is not "carried over" into modern English.)
In a very special way - God has managed to preserve the original meaning - in English - for us today:
What people don't understand about the KJV... (<-- link)
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(And, I am not even mentioning perversions, here - but, that which is lost from the original meaning of words in the original language - because it is not "carried over" into modern English.)
In a very special way - God has managed to preserve the original meaning - in English - for us today:
What people don't understand about the KJV... (<-- link)
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I am moved by the posts by everyone discussing the different Bibles and versions, I only know that when I read Gods word and apply it to my thoughts and actions it moves me and stirs up my soul and convicts me of wrongful things that make me want to do those things pleasing to God.
I also know as his word says that by studying his word it helps us to rightly devide the word of truth.
When I know Gods word and I read another interpretation or hear false quotes of scripture the Holy Spirit is always quick on the seen in my mind to point out truth and lies and therefore I turn from it...
I am however having an on going discusion with my son about the so called mirror bible have you heard of this or universalism??
George
I also know as his word says that by studying his word it helps us to rightly devide the word of truth.
When I know Gods word and I read another interpretation or hear false quotes of scripture the Holy Spirit is always quick on the seen in my mind to point out truth and lies and therefore I turn from it...
I am however having an on going discusion with my son about the so called mirror bible have you heard of this or universalism??
George
this subject already has another thread wasting bandwidth, people always always going to print garbage like this, God will deal with them, I dont know how they think they can change God's word because they print something. They can print what they want, claim they are married etc, and we as Christians know they are doing nothing but bringing Gods wrath on themselves