A 'Merican response to school shootin's

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kaylagrl

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You can't just "fix people's morals" what are you going to do, tie them up and make them watch the 700 club? God doesn't force the heart of man to do anything. You said it's a spiritual problem at the root, which to me means that nothing else could fix it other than a mass repentance and refocusing on the will of God, and I agree. Let it be that and let it show in your prayer life, because it's really all WE can do. So stop the bickering about fences, national guardsmen, and the forced relinquishment of an HEAVELY enshrined right. Because it just divides US.
You think gun death are high, try taking them away and then see how high they get, it's the opposite of a solution. Cain killed Able with a rock, brother.

Pray and give it to God.

Protect yourself how you see fit, no one is making it out of here with their skin.

Shine the light of Christ, and shake the dust of your feet if people don't want the light.

Enjoy your life the best you rightiously can, because it is all meaningless at the end of the day.

I pray for your peace of mind.
Just about the most sensible post I have seen here. But these people that are crying over children today on the news will be screaming for the right to kill the unborn next month. I mean, people are preparing for another summer of love because they believe there is going to be so much violence. In a blink of an eye it will change to "I'm killing my baby" woman. smh
 

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Guns are not the issue, the people that use the guns are. It's time to bring back mental institutions. That's the common thread through this. There has been a breakdown of the family. A lot of issues here that we don't want to face. There is no way to get every gun off the street. Look at all the money that has been used to try and stop drugs. And yet we have more of a drug issue now more than ever. More strict gun control takes rights away from law abiding citizens. I haven't lived here that long but didn't Clinton ban ARs for a time? Someone fill me in on that one?
Okay, here’s something that can probably defy your logic if you’re open for new ideas.
All guns were banned in the Trump NRA meeting. Why? Because guns are the issue? If not they should have banned people instead.
 

Eli1

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You can't just "fix people's morals" what are you going to do, tie them up and make them watch the 700 club? God doesn't force the heart of man to do anything. You said it's a spiritual problem at the root, which to me means that nothing else could fix it other than a mass repentance and refocusing on the will of God, and I agree. Let it be that and let it show in your prayer life, because it's really all WE can do. So stop the bickering about fences, national guardsmen, and the forced relinquishment of an HEAVELY enshrined right. Because it just divides US.
You think gun death are high, try taking them away and then see how high they get, it's the opposite of a solution. Cain killed Able with a rock, brother.

Pray and give it to God.

Protect yourself how you see fit, no one is making it out of here with their skin.

Shine the light of Christ, and shake the dust of your feet if people don't want the light.

Enjoy your life the best you rightiously can, because it is all meaningless at the end of the day.

I pray for your peace of mind.
Thanks brother. I will also pray that people don’t have too many guns for “protection”.
 

Lynx

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Okay, here’s something that can probably defy your logic if you’re open for new ideas.
All guns were banned in the Trump NRA meeting. Why? Because guns are the issue? If not they should have banned people instead.
Somebody whack the record player. I think it's stuck.
 

Eli1

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Somebody whack the record player. I think it's stuck.
Phew. Trust me I know. The programming goes deep.
“Only a good guy with a gun can defeat a bad guy with a gun”.
‘To be indoctrinated by that logic …. is next level man.
 
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kaylagrl

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Okay, here’s something that can probably defy your logic if you’re open for new ideas.
All guns were banned in the Trump NRA meeting. Why? Because guns are the issue? If not they should have banned people instead.

Well I'll swing back with this one, all politicians and their children are protected with guns and ours aren't, why, if guns are the issue.
 

Eli1

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Well I'll swing back with this one, all politicians and their children are protected with guns and ours aren't, why, if guns are the issue.
Ah great question. Because guns project absolute power and destruction?
 

shittim

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You sir are too programmed to have a fair discussion because you think that guns are “tools”.
‘If they were tools, why did they ban them at the NRA Trump meeting?

To keep a fruitcake like you from coming in and acting out your reprobate thinking.....:unsure:(y):):coffee:
 

Eli1

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To keep a fruitcake like you from coming in and acting out your reprobate thinking.....:unsure:(y):):coffee:
Haha. You‘re kinda like Pavlov’s dog where you’re distracted with a piece of red meat to minimize your thinking.
 

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God did not send those children to the indoctrination camps their parents did. Can any one show passages of God's Word telling us to allow nonbelievers to teach or children.. A reading of the Biblical history of the Children of Israel gives us strong clues as to who should be teaching our kids. So wish i had home schooled my kids and Praise to the Lord my grandchildren and great grandchildren are homed schooled.
 
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Thanks brother. I will also pray that people don’t have too many guns for “protection”.
Tell me how you would interpret this excerpt of scripture.

35Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you out without purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

“Nothing,” they answered.

36“Now, however,” He told them, “the one with a purse should take it, and likewise a bag; and the one without a sword should sell his cloak and buy one. 37For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’c For what is written about Me is reaching its fulfillment.”

38So they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That is enough,” He answered.
 

Beckie

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@JTB think about this very simply okay?

There are many crazy people in the world. They exist.
‘The difference is that here in US, a crazy person can easily get a high powered weapon and cause more death very quickly compared to other places in the world.

It’s as simple as that.

Guns are the issue. This is why Guns NOT people were banned at the NRA Trump meeting.
Can you tell me about a gun killing anyone ? That nasty ol gum just bounced into the school as fired at its will . That gun took aim and fired. Guns are nasty like that
 

Eli1

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Tell me how you would interpret this excerpt of scripture.

35Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you out without purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

“Nothing,” they answered.

36“Now, however,” He told them, “the one with a purse should take it, and likewise a bag; and the one without a sword should sell his cloak and buy one. 37For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’c For what is written about Me is reaching its fulfillment.”

38So they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That is enough,” He answered.
I’ve debated this in other topics. Short version is: I don’t pick a verse from the Bible and build a worldview around it. I pick the Bible as a whole and build a worldview around it.
‘Jesus didn’t come as a warrior on a horse, He will do that on his second coming.
‘He came on a donkey to serve and preach love and humility.
 

Eli1

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Can you tell me about a gun killing anyone ? That nasty ol gum just bounced into the school as fired at its will . That gun took aim and fired. Guns are nasty like that
I’m sorry but how does this answer my question?
 

Beckie

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I’m sorry but how does this answer my question?
I do not read a question in your post.

Went back and re-read your post the question was to JTB. I am not JTB and this is an open forum
 
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kaylagrl

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Ah great question. Because guns project absolute power and destruction?

No because they value their children, and their money and their homes and can afford to protect them. When they give up their protection, I'll agree we should do the same.
 

Eli1

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I do not read a question in your post.
I said this:

There are many crazy people in the world. They exist.
‘The difference is that here in US, a crazy person can easily get a high powered weapon and cause more death very quickly compared to other places in the world.

It’s as simple as that.

Guns are the issue. This is why Guns NOT people were banned at the NRA Trump meeting.

and then you said this:

Can you tell me about a gun killing anyone ? That nasty ol gum just bounced into the school as fired at its will . That gun took aim and fired. Guns are nasty like that

Where does the logic follow?

No because they value their children, and their money and their homes and can afford to protect them. When they give up their protection, I'll agree we should do the same.
But if guns are for protection, then why were they banned at the Trump NRA meeting?
 

Beckie

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I said this:

There are many crazy people in the world. They exist.
‘The difference is that here in US, a crazy person can easily get a high powered weapon and cause more death very quickly compared to other places in the world.

It’s as simple as that.

Guns are the issue. This is why Guns NOT people were banned at the NRA Trump meeting.

and then you said this:

Can you tell me about a gun killing anyone ? That nasty ol gum just bounced into the school as fired at its will . That gun took aim and fired. Guns are nasty like that

Where does the logic follow?


But if guns are for protection, then why were they banned at the Trump NRA meeting?
because there are nuts running around loose given excuses for their behaviour

your logic and mine are miles apart... Very thankful no one was killed when the bad guys kicked in our door also thankful my husband had his rifle . That is the short story there is a long about the fire of protection of the Lord.
 

Eli1

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because there are nuts running around loose given excuses for their behaviour

your logic and mine are miles apart... Very thankful no one was killed when the bad guys kicked in our door also thankful my husband had his rifle . That is the short story there is a long about the fire of protection of the Lord.
All right, well practically we have to resolve these issues in our daily lives by making our own choices and I’ve resolved mine and works pretty good for me and my family. Because I know that we won’t be resolving these issues nationwide by talking in a forum.
‘We can change things for ourselves and our families.
 

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