Christains never use the real power of their argument

Sooo you cant be 100% sure you wont face judgement when the end comes.


Quote " And me saying that you will face their judgement is equally as effective as you telling me I will face your god's judgement."

Just sayin

There is a bit of a difference between talking with those willing to listen and looking for a fight that wont go anywhere, though. I like talking with people who want to talk about God even though they may not believe in Him, but I also avoid those who are only looking to make you look like a fool for their own benefit.

And haha you pointed out what I said, you claim that you dont believe in Him because you have no proof, but you also have no proof that He does not exist, but still claim its a fact that He doesnt. Your claiming your belief as fact without any proof at all No matter how you try to argue that, its still making a statement as fact even though you cannot prove it at all

no i dont "venture anywhere outside of my belief." Why would I? Christianity is the one TRUE religion..all other religions are false..

...and many other religions have already been proven as false.

What if I had said I was 100 percent, where would have the conversation have gone?

Yes, I do agree too.

In fact what I am surprised by is that not many people know that the Big Bang Theory was actually proposed by Georges Lemaître who was a Catholic Priest.

He viewed the idea of the universe expanding and starting from one single source as a validation of a Creationist standpoint (of a Creator)

And this is the truth of it, when you are called, you cant not believe, you will always know whats right. So many of the called have experiences that affected their whole life and they will never forget. They now know that God is real and not lying. They know now the truth and no amount of words will change that.

If you want to change what a believer knows is, true, you will not They have something they cannot deny, and they cannot prove it. The only way you could have that is if you opened yourself with faith to Him, too. To let go of yourself and accept Him. Other than that, you will continue with the deception that has been put on you until the end, which will not be of peace.
God never promised you Hed prove anything, He told you to come to Him in Christs name in faith, and He would be with you. If you refuse His demands and make your own, you will never be with Him.

There is plenty of evidence if one looks in the right places, the universe, stars, planets, moons, planet earth and life on earth.


Where did the universe come from?

But you didnt.... You're either 100% sure or you aren't. Only you know the answer to that.

You can't be 100% sure though can you, that's the point - that would make you God. No one knows for sure either way. Christians have a faith based on the evidence surrounding us and (most importantly) our own personal experiences when we approached Him with an open heart and an open mind.

Thing is, where do you draw the line. If there is the slightest possibility that god created the universe, why would I favour your god over anyone else's. How is yours more credible? Yes there are limitiless reasons as to why we got here. Anything from ridiculous alien theories, to us being a parasite inside another living being, to being the by product of another creation and so on. There is no evidence for or against any of those claims. So where does one even begin? I simply don't believe anything Ive been presented with so far.

Same question could be thrown back at you...

Lol no, someone brought up the eye witnesses to me and put them out there. I merely responded that they are written that way in the story. If you can provide historical reference to these people then I will re evaluate my position

I'm curious as to what your primary motive is coming here. Reading previous posts I noticed you said you visit other religion sites. Do you interact with the people on there the same way that you're doing to the people on Christian Chat? How do those people interact with you? Whether or not you believe in God is irrelevant in this instance. You came here for a reason, so the idea of God is in your mind somehow. In what way? I don't know.

If that were the case I wouldn't be here. I'd just stay on an atheist board replying to everything with "I Agree" lol

yes, but all other gods are false/fake/ non-existent.. Buddha is portrayed as a fat golden idol statue, he's false.. Allah is a false god, he's pretty much Satan.. Odin, Poseidon, all the ones you mentioned, are FALSE IDOLS.. GOD is NOT a false God or idol..God isn't an idol at all...even the Virgin Mary that Catholics pray to has been turned into a false idol. She does NOT intercede to God on our behalf, JESUS does..

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Yes what evolutionists do is build theoretical models, their claim is that the universe came from a micro dot, it then exploded and then expanded over billions of years creating the vast open space.

If anyone ever gets to chat with someone who belives in evolutions big bang theory ask them what caused the big bang in the first place. Evolutionists say that all natural phenomena can be exlplained by natural processes without divine intervention. I watched a documentary on tv some time ago, some evolutionary scientists claimed that the big bang came from nothing, they claim that you can get something from nothing but all scientific experiments known today shows clearly that this is impossible, but they still believe the big bang theory happened, if they want to believe that the big bang came from nothing in the first place then that is their prerogative, their choice to do so, but they have failed to explain the natural processes because something coming from nothing is not a natural process. Logic tells me that there had to have been a causative agent at work, matter cannot appear from nothing nor can it create matter all by itself from nothing, there had to have been a immaterial or incorporeal entity at work.

Even with that, you still claim there is no God at all with no proof to back that up. Why should I believe what you believe if you have an equal amount of proof to back it up?

Ancient history is about a balance of probability. I would say any effective presentation must include two main elements:

1. The identity of an individual in the New Testament who would have been able to provide eyewitness testimony, along with explicit reference to said individual witnessing, saying, or doing something of significance (or being someone of significance).

2. External references to that individual - either from different authors, artifacts, first-person accounts etc. - that confirm the individual's existence and also confirm the role described in the first point.


So a claimed eyewitness would need to be identified in a particular passage, and then their existence would have to be supported through references to other documents. Also, their status as an eyewitness would have to be supported by those documents. Is there anything else one might add to this?