Harry Potter and Gabriele Kubik

The only problem I have with these movies is witchcraft etc. I am not telling you the Holy Spirit is not talking to you my friend, how could I? Maybe we are at a different stage in our lives. I have a 6 year old that I have to try and mentor to the Kingdom with God’s grace. It is difficult for me to tell him to stay away from the occult if it is clear to see in these movies. I know that you are at an age where you can distinguish between right and wrong but for him it is not that easy. Just wait until there is a little Tintin (or Arlene LOL) running around and we can have this same discussion again

Says the person who named himself after a wizard.

You shall not pass... the ball to the opposing team if you wish to win.

.... fool of a took.

I suppose I have to take that on the chin

I read some of it....don't really care for it... I think Lord of the rings and hunger games is better..

I'm just going to let the old-fashioned legalist bunch have this thread to themselves. Enjoy being terrified of novels and such.

Personally, I have never read the series or never intend to, as I am aware that it promotes witchcraft, sorcery, and homosexuality, which are an abomination in the sight of God. The series also have names of characters that are actually the real names of demons or devils. Whether or not we call such things entertainment, we are still partaking in things that God hates.

Keep in mind these verses:

Colossians 3:2, "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth."

1 Thessalonians 5:22, "Abstain from all appearance of evil."

Leviticus 19:31, "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God."


Deuteronomy 18:9-14, "When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Thou shalt be perfect with the Lord thy God.

For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the Lord thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.


Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."

I think these verses answer your question.

Harry Potter: What Does God Have To Say

It does? I've read the entire series a number of times, seen all of the movies and I've never noticed any of this. Could it be because none of these things are found within the books? Yes! And because some Christians love to spread hearsay? Yes! Even at the expense of truth? Yes! Doing something wrong for the right reason is right, yes? No, it's not! I can tell you haven't read the books because your information is wrong. I'm not even a huge Harry Potter fan, The Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia are more my thing, but it gets my goat when Christians spread lies.

It is all fiction and nothing wrong with it.

Take Star Wars for example, it's very clear that the Jedi are the good guys and sith are evil, but it doesn't stop people idealising the sith, and dressing up as Dark maul and talking about how edgy the Sith are. In a pathetic way.

Evil people are going to gravitate to evil.

How many idiots do you see that love Heath Ledger's Joker?

So any tale, that has morality in it, can be twisted by those people who like to glorify evil.

The tale is not evil, the evil doers who glorify the fictional evil have the problem.

LOL! Yup, pretty clear you haven't read the books. I think the most laughable claim is homosexuality... I can see Christians who have not read the books and hear it's about a wizard and jump onto the witchcraft and sorcery bandwagon but where the crap did homosexuality come from? LOL! The only thing I can think of is AFTER the books were written, the author declared that Dumbledore was gay. Even though nothing is suggested or even hinted at that in the books (and really I think it came as an after thought when asked why she doesn't have any gay characters in her books and she picked Dumbledore as he's a prominent character who love life is never talked about so it was easy to retconnect).

And just what are the real names of demons and devils?! I think in the bible, the only name mentioned is Legion and there was no character named Legion in Harry Potter. And even though Lucifer is not a name or title of Satan, even that name was not in Harry Potter.

To the OP, I personally don't have a problem with the books at all. I was about 14 when the first book came out and I wasn't dumb enough to think any of it was real or see it as anything more than pure fantasy. Adults really don't give kids enough credit. Parents should school their children... not let movies and books do it for them. If they're reading harry potter and then going off and trying to fly on brooms make things levitate, you're doing it wrong.

Not gonna argue with anyone who feels otherwise... To each his own... Me, personally, I've read the first 5 books before I got bored with the series but I had no problems with them. I'd let my kids read them too... Probably wait till they're like 10 before introducing them but yeah. If I banned harry potter, I'd have to ban every book not sold in a Christian bookstore and even in those you can find Narnia so maybe be safe and ban everything that is not telling you how to live the Christian life and the Bible.

The way I see it, to have a good story, ya need a good villain. Harry Potter has those. It makes a clear distinction between good characters and bad ones. Good vs Evil makes a good conflict and engaging story. Harry potter just happens to have magic powers. That kind of fantasy magic is so far removed from what is "magic" in real life, it's like fearing my kid after watching Aladdin is gonna go around rubbing lamps hoping a Genie will pop out or try to fly on carpets. But like I said, to each his own...

Just a minor thing I would like to point out here. As an artist, he did perform that role so convincingly and with such passion, that anyone could appreciate that talent. I myself was impressed. Didn't mean I identified or idolized him in any way. It's okay to appreciate art without sacrificing your moral stance. (This doesn't apply to all fans, I understand. And many people do idolize the dark elements of film or any entertainment, I know.) Just some food for thought.

I'd like to go on record of saying I thoroughly enjoyed the Harry Potter series. Because it is fiction. It is a fanciful take of good vs evil. Even in The Chronicles of Narnia, written by a Christian, with many a biblical element hidden cleverly in it's wonderful story line and imagery, contained some elements of "witchcraft" because it was used to illustrate the greater picture or add meat to character development. We see this common theme of good vs evil, light vs darkness, etc. And to completely discard all art not strictly adhering to biblical fact would be a sad thing indeed.

Apparently you have not read a book, nor seen a film of the series. Homosexuality is not in it before. JK Rowling said only in response to a reader question that she has always been seen professor Dumbledore as a gay character. Thus, as in most English books about boarding schools, the headmaster is gay.
And, "characters of the books will have names of devils and demons? Prove it!
Speaking of demons.
In the ancient world, especially in Greece, but also in the Middle East, demons were regarded as a counselor, as the conscience of the people. The demonization of the demons did not happen until much later.
And on the subject of homosexuality, I just want to say this, and I am referring to the Bible, good reference books, and two well-known Catholic theologians, both heterosexual who have lost their teaching license because of their statements.
Accordingly, the Bible does not condemn homosexuality per se, nor the lived-homosexuality (as it is practiced today), but saw homosexuality is related to temple prostitution, and turn away from God and towards pagan idols. In addition, many things especially Paul describes is not about gays, but about pederasts, as Luther translated correctly (1. Timothy, 1. Corinthians specially).

This thinking in black and white, in either-or, is counterproductive. In addition, you turn me around the word in his mouth, as we say in Germany. I say A, and you understand B. I just said that historically (from religion historical perspective, to be exact), sight, demons were in ancient times often understood differently. I am not against God, but I am against some ideas, the people have about God or the Bible. An example:

In the Bible it says in Paul that women should keep silence in the church. Some men use this verse to make themselves above women in the church and at home. However, if you read the original quote, and observed the textual and historical background, is the biblical staement differend from what these men think.

I don't think witchcraft and demonic-possessed creatures are of God but neither is the HP series promoting such things. Also, reading is very different to agreeing with and inviting such things into your life. That said, I wouldn't go so far as to say all fiction is harmless. Discernment is key.