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I had crunchyroll and VRV, but I don't feel comfortable with them now because they helped me to slip back into my old habits of watching soft-core porn anime and homosexual anime. I know I can just choose to scroll on by, but they sit in front of my face cause I mainly use the app, and until there are better ways to hide that stuff on crunchyroll and VRV, I'm never using them again cause I'm not spiritual mature enough to resist old habits coming back up. So I'm just watching what's on my shelf cause I actually enjoy collecting anime Blu-Rays/DVDs and Manga. Recently been watching Gundam, the Universal Century timeline universe stuff, but I'm taking a anime break cause I'm burned out right now.
I understand.

One thing that may help is having a group of sisters in Christ and having a anime night once a week or so.
many people in like mid 20s and above just sit at home alone most of the time watching shows that ten others are watching.

I have a few brothers and sisters in Christ who come over every week or so and we are watching through movies and tv shows together. Every Halloween me and several others from church all get together and spend the evening together eating, doing bible focused horror studies, and then watching a few horror films together.

This year we are also starting a new one where on dec 25th at night after all the Christmas stuff throughout the day is done we are all going to a local nature preserve and camping for a while. We will also use the event center there so that we can watch a few fantasy films together.

Maybe you can find something similar there that may be able help?
 

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Not sure why they flipped sideways. Maybe I did landscape? Either way I even have a Chucky drawing someone did and if you like manga and horror Junji Ito has some really cool stuff. Me and my fiancée just read through Tomi and even have matching shirts lol.
 

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I understand.

One thing that may help is having a group of sisters in Christ and having a anime night once a week or so.
many people in like mid 20s and above just sit at home alone most of the time watching shows that ten others are watching.

I have a few brothers and sisters in Christ who come over every week or so and we are watching through movies and tv shows together. Every Halloween me and several others from church all get together and spend the evening together eating, doing bible focused horror studies, and then watching a few horror films together.

This year we are also starting a new one where on dec 25th at night after all the Christmas stuff throughout the day is done we are all going to a local nature preserve and camping for a while. We will also use the event center there so that we can watch a few fantasy films together.

Maybe you can find something similar there that may be able help?
Maybe, that does sound fun. I remember a website called Rabit (It's now called Kast) where people can view and watch things online together, but I still haven't figured out Kast's interface, it's hard >_<...but yeah it's hard looking for stuff like that when you live in the middle of nowhere, and my church is mostly older people or couples. I basically only watch anime stuff with my mom nowadays. I would normally watch stuff with my brother...I got him into anime, lol. But most of the time I'm alone, which I'm used to normally, but I realized during this virus stuff that I do need friends.
 
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Not sure why they flipped sideways. Maybe I did landscape? Either way I even have a Chucky drawing someone did and if you like manga and horror Junji Ito has some really cool stuff. Me and my fiancée just read through Tomi and even have matching shirts lol.
Not a fan of chucky, but yeah I definitely know about Junji Ito. I enjoy them more as "horror art"and probably wouldn't read them, but I can apperciate great art when I see it, hey did you hear about this?:


I would watch this, it looks like it's gonna be amazing :D
 

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Maybe, that does sound fun. I remember a website called Rabit (It's now called Kast) where people can view and watch things online together, but I still haven't figured out Kast's interface, it's hard >_<...but yeah it's hard looking for stuff like that when you live in the middle of nowhere, and my church is mostly older people or couples. I basically only watch anime stuff with my mom nowadays. I would normally watch stuff with my brother...I got him into anime, lol. But most of the time I'm alone, which I'm used to normally, but I realized during this virus stuff that I do need friends.
Definitely. Nothing makes life better than good friends. I’ve been living on my own since I was 17. I bounced all around and even got hiked through Mexico for a few months. Now that I’m 31 and have lived from alabama, Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Oregon, arizona and Washington and evening northern Cali for a while I have settled down in Alabama. I prefer the hot humid weather and all the biodiversity. Lots of my cousins and family life here and I was able to buy a nice piece of property with a creek that goes along the back of it with some woods that are 200+ years old it’s just home for me. I can kayak from my house to beach and I can drive in a few hours to the Appalachian mountains. Since I know this is where I’m going to spend my life I have been focused on developing a good social networking. I have friends from church, college, that I meet while hiking and biking and even friends from the gym and even the coffee house I frequent. Once someone really settles down and self reflect and see how society is growing it’s so easy to see everyone is disconnected. House after house has people sitting alone watching the same show and buying the same movies as a everyone around them. It’s so much more fun to invite them over and do the same thing together as a group.

I go hiking 5-12 miles every Saturday and use to always go alone but I asked around and have a group of us that goes together now. Sometimes just one or two others and sometimes up to seven. Often even though we are hiking together we may not hardly talk for an hour just listening to nature.
 

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Not a fan of chucky, but yeah I definitely know about Junji Ito. I enjoy them more as "horror art"and probably wouldn't read them, but I can apperciate great art when I see it, hey did you hear about this?:


I would watch this, it looks like it's gonna be amazing :D
I think I did. I remember seeing something about a anime of his coming out. Oh it was Gyo I saw. I’ll have to check that one out as well.

I enjoyed Chucky a lot. When my son was 2 he was dressed as Chucky for Halloween lol. But I was in the army and we got divorced and so he lives mostly with his mom now. Going to be headed back to court soon to get more rights back. I’m looking forward to the new chucky tv series coming out.
 
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Definitely. Nothing makes life better than good friends. I’ve been living on my own since I was 17. I bounced all around and even got hiked through Mexico for a few months. Now that I’m 31 and have lived from alabama, Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Oregon, arizona and Washington and evening northern Cali for a while I have settled down in Alabama. I prefer the hot humid weather and all the biodiversity. Lots of my cousins and family life here and I was able to buy a nice piece of property with a creek that goes along the back of it with some woods that are 200+ years old it’s just home for me. I can kayak from my house to beach and I can drive in a few hours to the Appalachian mountains. Since I know this is where I’m going to spend my life I have been focused on developing a good social networking. I have friends from church, college, that I meet while hiking and biking and even friends from the gym and even the coffee house I frequent. Once someone really settles down and self reflect and see how society is growing it’s so easy to see everyone is disconnected. House after house has people sitting alone watching the same show and buying the same movies as a everyone around them. It’s so much more fun to invite them over and do the same thing together as a group.

I go hiking 5-12 miles every Saturday and use to always go alone but I asked around and have a group of us that goes together now. Sometimes just one or two others and sometimes up to seven. Often even though we are hiking together we may not hardly talk for an hour just listening to nature.
That's cool, I have always just been a loner. My disability makes it hard for me to open up to people and to communicate well (I'm not this talkative in real life, lol) and when seeing people not take school seriously, I decided I didn't want friends and kept up that mentality most of my life, but now with my one friend no longer near me (My mom's doctor told my mom about her autistic son, we have been friends for about 4 years. We just basically talk about nerd stuff (Anime and Videogames) but I wish to have friends to talk about Christianity, YouTube, and politics with. I'm not being mean when saying this, just saying what reality is, but his autism is more serve, he isn't high-functioning like me), I think talking to people online and maybe even in real life would help relive some of my stress and help me to grow as a christian.
 

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My favorite genre of books and films are definitely horror by far. Often during halloween one of the things me and my local brothers and sisters in Christ do is bike throughout the more decorated neighborhoods, go on a haystack horror ride, read some things from the Bible centered around horror and finish it off at someone’s house watching a few horror films and eating pizza until we pass out.

Christianity often comes up in horror films. Though sometimes negatively as a silly Christian trope praying to god instead of running away or something lol.

I’m mostly into nature based horror films. But was wondering what was everyone’s favorite horror series, movie, or book? Anything in it able to open up a naturally flowing conversation about god?
It seems like a lot more movies include scripture and Christian ideas for sure and that includes in horror so I see your point there.

The problem is it's typically off in the movie. So I'm not sure how easily it would be to bring people to God over it. Probably more of a thought provoking discussion instead.

I like watching scary movies sometimes but only the ones with a decent plot. However...I don't believe God wants us to watch them. But it's like the forbidden fruit and once I start watching I have to finish the movie.

Your experiences creep into your dreams and that includes scary movie characters. Interestingly though the example you provided about praying and then getting attacked is actually false. If you pray in a nightmare you will wake up instantly. Though dreams work faster, the real world works as well. So horror movies can be very misleading.

Some horror movies are over the top as well. I don't regret much, but there's at least 1 I literally regret watching bc it was so disturbing and soul crunching. Unfortunately those images are seared in my brain forever. As humans we're like soldiers and just keep going, but it does impact us.
 

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That's cool, I have always just been a loner. My disability makes it hard for me to open up to people and to communicate well (I'm not this talkative in real life, lol) and when seeing people not take school seriously, I decided I didn't want friends and kept up that mentality most of my life, but now with my one friend no longer near me (My mom's doctor told my mom about her autistic son, we have been friends for about 4 years. We just basically talk about nerd stuff (Anime and Videogames) but I wish to have friends to talk about Christianity, YouTube, and politics with. I'm not being mean when saying this, just saying what reality is, but his autism is more serve, he isn't high-functioning like me), I think talking to people online and maybe even in real life would help relive some of my stress and help me to grow as a christian.
It definitely takes work to be more social. It was not natural for me either. I had to make myself get out and visit people and not be flakey about meeting up. For a four month people I was camping in southern Alabama alone and went over 2 months without seeing another human. It’s easy for me to fall into a anti social state. I work 10 hours a day, go to the gym or bike/run for over an hour six days a week and then come home and study. I had to make myself make time. At one time I was thinking of going to another country like New Zealand and just living on a farm in the wild away from everyone. But decided not to.

My fiancée is from China and she’s currently living there. She and I should be getting married next year. The visa for her is a bit complicated because she was a “Humint” for her country. So the process so har has taken three years but we are meeting all the requirements and decided to get a lawyer to help. Once she’s here that will really help me not be as easily able to fall into my lone wolf mentality because she’s super social. She was into cheerleading and playing volleyball her life and even in college and does sales now. Working towards focusing on being a plant broker with numerous nurseries. She’s already making tons of friends in my county and near me that I have never met. She joined local groups to my area online through Facebook and 30 minute away is a huge asian community in Florida and so she’s networking there as well. I imagine when she’s here it will turn into a lot more couple outings with other couples.
 

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It seems like a lot more movies include scripture and Christian ideas for sure and that includes in horror so I see your point there.

The problem is it's typically off in the movie. So I'm not sure how easily it would be to bring people to God over it. Probably more of a thought provoking discussion instead.

I like watching scary movies sometimes but only the ones with a decent plot. However...I don't believe God wants us to watch them. But it's like the forbidden fruit and once I start watching I have to finish the movie.

Your experiences creep into your dreams and that includes scary movie characters. Interestingly though the example you provided about praying and then getting attacked is actually false. If you pray in a nightmare you will wake up instantly. Though dreams work faster, the real world works as well. So horror movies can be very misleading.

Some horror movies are over the top as well. I don't regret much, but there's at least 1 I literally regret watching bc it was so disturbing and soul crunching. Unfortunately those images are seared in my brain forever. As humans we're like soldiers and just keep going, but it does impact us.
For me I really enjoy horror and don’t come away from it with a negative outlook but a excited one. The same thing could be said with Christian music not being sound and it still helps to bring others in.

As for dreams 90% of my dreams are me working through puzzles I’m dealing with in my life. Constantly having dreams where something I missed pops up and I wake up and take notes and double check it the next day. Few times while trying to decide on a focal point in a garden I’ve dreamed of a trellis or bench and wake up and take notes and begin building it and working on it and use it in the design. Lots of my dreams are just nature or almost like a AI program where I’m debating a particular point with someone. I use to think I was having a unique experience but realized millions of others have similar dream styles.

Again I don’t think there is anything sinful watching a horror movie. A movie about some cursed forest with a evil elf that must be defeated or make amends with by preserving the woodland is not sinful or undermining my faith or lifestyle at all. I understand some here feels that way but from my own experience and from my own studying of scripture I’m 100% at peace with it. I don’t see how God could have a problem with it whatsoever and even believe he enjoys it as well because he sure uses a lot of it in his word. I mean the Holy Spirit directed revelation. The anti horror outlook reminds me of the same people who says all holidays are pagan rituals. God seems to enjoy romance ( Esther ), family slices of life ( Ruth) , Comedy ( Jonah ) , war ( Exodus ) and horror (revelation) And there are dozens of story specific elements for each example. Even Song of Solomon is full of sexually charged symbolism. Jewish kids are not even allowed to read it. God is the same god that made nature and along with pretty flowers absorbing sunlight he made vampire bats that feast on blood, parasitic fungi that creates zombie insects, and ravenous beasts of muscle, teeth and claws that hunt down nimble prey and that’s not even counting the craziness we see in extinct beings. The same god that watches rain wet a prairie is the same one who watched a volcano reign down on Pompeii and watched a meteor strike the earth so hard that it created a several mile wide and deep crater that reshaped the gulf coast of USA and even caused volcanoes in Asia to develop. So I’m very much as peace with horror .
 

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You’re so silly. Have you read the Bible? It’s full of horror stories. For a fact it even quotes creatures from Mesopotamian mythologies. Like Levithan and the sea monsters.......
You ask God if I’m silly.
God created a lot of things and they were good when He did so, but we are in a fallen world and evil is a reality that God tells us to be separate from. You will suffer harm because of your folly. If the Bible quotes it then it is fact and not myth. The Bible tells us to steer clear of myths. The Bible is not full of horror stories; it is full of truth, in order to teach us. God certainly does not want us to dwell on evil for the sake of entertainment; this is a deception and nonsense. In fact it says in the Philippians 4:8:

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things arelovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Why are you ignoring that the Bible tells us to have nothing to do with evil and darkness?
You ought to be thanking me not insulting me. Go and ask him and look up in your Bible what it says about evil.

You are accountable to Him for what you encouraged others to do and I have done my job and warned you.
 

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For me I really enjoy horror and don’t come away from it with a negative outlook but a excited one. The same thing could be said with Christian music not being sound and it still helps to bring others in.

As for dreams 90% of my dreams are me working through puzzles I’m dealing with in my life. Constantly having dreams where something I missed pops up and I wake up and take notes and double check it the next day. Few times while trying to decide on a focal point in a garden I’ve dreamed of a trellis or bench and wake up and take notes and begin building it and working on it and use it in the design. Lots of my dreams are just nature or almost like a AI program where I’m debating a particular point with someone. I use to think I was having a unique experience but realized millions of others have similar dream styles.

Again I don’t think there is anything sinful watching a horror movie. A movie about some cursed forest with a evil elf that must be defeated or make amends with by preserving the woodland is not sinful or undermining my faith or lifestyle at all. I understand some here feels that way but from my own experience and from my own studying of scripture I’m 100% at peace with it. I don’t see how God could have a problem with it whatsoever and even believe he enjoys it as well because he sure uses a lot of it in his word. I mean the Holy Spirit directed revelation. The anti horror outlook reminds me of the same people who says all holidays are pagan rituals. God seems to enjoy romance ( Esther ), family slices of life ( Ruth) , Comedy ( Jonah ) , war ( Exodus ) and horror (revelation) And there are dozens of story specific elements for each example. Even Song of Solomon is full of sexually charged symbolism. Jewish kids are not even allowed to read it. God is the same god that made nature and along with pretty flowers absorbing sunlight he made vampire bats that feast on blood, parasitic fungi that creates zombie insects, and ravenous beasts of muscle, teeth and claws that hunt down nimble prey and that’s not even counting the craziness we see in extinct beings. The same god that watches rain wet a prairie is the same one who watched a volcano reign down on Pompeii and watched a meteor strike the earth so hard that it created a several mile wide and deep crater that reshaped the gulf coast of USA and even caused volcanoes in Asia to develop. So I’m very much as peace with horror .
The book of Revelation is NOT horror, it is truth and it is about judgement on those who reject God.
From what you have said it sounds like you are led more by your dreams which may or may not be from God rather than His Word.
The fact that you are at peace with horror is disturbing and you ought to be praying about it. Wake up!! You are in a slumber...I will be praying for you and I hope others will too.
 

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I strongly disagree with your interpretation. Not to be rude but I’m not going to even entertain arguing about it.

So no. I don’t need the link. It would be a waste of my time as a Christian and as a person to read the delusional beliefs behind the mindset of whoever created a link thinking horror films, action films, or whatever is inviting demons in. It’s just the mindset of someone not educated in scripture and fear mongering based off of their own convictions. Has nothing to do with the Bible though.
Very wise of you not to argue with the Word of God.
Always remember brother, God says if we want our ears to be shut to what He has to say then He will let them be.

What I am saying has everything to do with the Bible:

1 THESSALONIANS 5:22
“ reject every kind of evil.”

Isaiah 5:20
20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

Romans 12:9
Love must be sincere. Detest what is evil; cling to what is good.

Ephesians 5:11 says:
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

1 Corinthians 13:6
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

Isaiah 32:6
For fools speak folly, their hearts are bent on evil: They practice ungodliness and spread error concerning the LORD; the hungry they leave empty and from the thirsty they withhold water.

Proverbs 3:7
Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil.
 

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Very wise of you not to argue with the Word of God.
Always remember brother, God says if we want our ears to be shut to what He has to say then He will let them be.

What I am saying has everything to do with the Bible:

1 THESSALONIANS 5:22
“ reject every kind of evil.”

Isaiah 5:20
20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

Romans 12:9
Love must be sincere. Detest what is evil; cling to what is good.

Ephesians 5:11 says:
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

1 Corinthians 13:6
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

Isaiah 32:6
For fools speak folly, their hearts are bent on evil: They practice ungodliness and spread error concerning the LORD; the hungry they leave empty and from the thirsty they withhold water.

Proverbs 3:7
Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil.
And yet not a single verse you just said it relevant. I agree with all those verses. Gets it’s absolutely not relevant to the subject.......

Do you take a marker and black out all these same things in the Bible? I highly suggest picking up a book on applying theology and textual analysis. Then look historically into the common fictional tales shared among ancient Jewish communities. Reading through scripture systematically and in context and then comparing it to how they used it in light of literature would really help you get past this bizarre stumbling block.
 

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The book of Revelation is NOT horror, it is truth and it is about judgement on those who reject God.
From what you have said it sounds like you are led more by your dreams which may or may not be from God rather than His Word.
The fact that you are at peace with horror is disturbing and you ought to be praying about it. Wake up!! You are in a slumber...I will be praying for you and I hope others will too.
Yeah it’s horror.....the literary style is apocalyptic horror... led by my dreams..... what are you talking about lol. You mean what dreams are used for by thinkers where what’s on your mind is worked out? It’s a common thing that people around the world use. It’s not supernatural. It’s biology.
 

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After work ill try to dedicate time to making a completely separate post in bible theology about why horror is good. That way people who want to debate it can do so and those who want to talk about their interest and enjoyment for horror can enjoy it here. Two completely separate posts focused on two separate issues.
 
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After work ill try to dedicate time to making a completely separate post in bible theology about why horror is good. That way people who want to debate it can do so and those who want to talk about their interest and enjoyment for horror can enjoy it here. Two completely separate posts focused on two separate issues.
I would like to see that post in the bible discussion, cause it seems everyone on here everyone has different opinions. It would be interesting to see if they approve of mom, cause she's a Christian, but right now she's watching Supernatural (My brother got her into it), and she has seen Game of Thrones and Stranger Things. She tells me she's okay with it because she knows God is her main source of happiness, and that she will not let TV shows become her main source of happiness, but she enjoys reading books and likes interesting stories. But she doesn't get why I enjoyed The Joker, I enjoyed it cause it was a interesting physiological look into the character (But I would never own nor watch it again, because it is a really depressing movie), my mom doesn't like sad stuff in general.
 

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I can not believe nobody has yet mentioned second Titus 1:7. When I read the thread title I was expecting that Bible verse to be in the second post. :sneaky:


As for horror movies, I never have been able to get into them because... well... xkcd said it better than I can, so I'll do what I always do and post an xkcd to say what I want to say.




"Isn't the original Jurassic Park your favorite movie of all time?"

"Yes, but that's because I like dinosaurs and I WANT there to be an island full of them. If John Hammond's lab had been breeding serial killers in creepy masks, I wouldn't have watched!"

"Wait, are you sure? That could actually be good."

"Ok, I WOULD watch the scenes where Jeff Goldblum tries to convince a bunch of executives that the park is a bad idea."
 

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Definitely. Nothing makes life better than good friends. I’ve been living on my own since I was 17. I bounced all around and even got hiked through Mexico for a few months. Now that I’m 31 and have lived from alabama, Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Oregon, arizona and Washington and evening northern Cali for a while I have settled down in Alabama. I prefer the hot humid weather and all the biodiversity. Lots of my cousins and family life here and I was able to buy a nice piece of property with a creek that goes along the back of it with some woods that are 200+ years old it’s just home for me. I can kayak from my house to beach and I can drive in a few hours to the Appalachian mountains. Since I know this is where I’m going to spend my life I have been focused on developing a good social networking. I have friends from church, college, that I meet while hiking and biking and even friends from the gym and even the coffee house I frequent. Once someone really settles down and self reflect and see how society is growing it’s so easy to see everyone is disconnected. House after house has people sitting alone watching the same show and buying the same movies as a everyone around them. It’s so much more fun to invite them over and do the same thing together as a group.

I go hiking 5-12 miles every Saturday and use to always go alone but I asked around and have a group of us that goes together now. Sometimes just one or two others and sometimes up to seven. Often even though we are hiking together we may not hardly talk for an hour just listening to nature.
Your life sounds so lovely, peaceful and serene, which is quite a juxtaposition set against your love of horror LOL :) I saw The Shining in the theater shorly afteer it first came out, and it did me in :oops: Suspense is one thing, but horror? No, it is not for me :D
 

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I did begin working on it. The Bible study argument. I only got a few pages into the rough draft and my kitten would not stop wanting to snuggle so I caved lol. I’ll continue to work on it throughout the week. I typically get to a few pages long and then work on shortening it up a bit to present my argument and then add on a bit as counter arguments to expected and typical attacks to help show the actual context verses the imaginary context. I want to cover a wide range of horror themes from the Bible. I want to work on a much more detailed version but it will takes a long time and whenever that’s finished I’ll upload it too probably after going through BioLogos with it and seeing counter arguments by people playing the devil’s advocate and rework it to cover those in more detail. But that’s months and months down the road.
 

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