How do you deal with pronouns

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This is hate speech. I’m so sorry to see that here.
Well anymore all truth is hate speech and I suppose Satan's kingdom will undoubtedly rise to defend itself from the truth, like they always do.

"Hate that which is evil, cling to that which is good" --- Apostle Paul
 

Didymous

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Well anymore all truth is hate speech and I suppose Satan's kingdom will undoubtedly rise to defend itself from the truth, like they always do.

"Hate that which is evil, cling to that which is good" --- Apostle Paul
Again you err, sir. Truth is love speaking, not hate.
 

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So I know that God has given us one gender, man or woman. But what do we do when their “preferred pronoun” is one of the LGBT pronunciations?

Yes it’s respectful to the person, but what would God say? Hm...
i have family members this applies to. i use their natural pronouns, not their self-appointed ones.
they don't like that, they think it's rude, but i'm not out to please them, if lying is what pleases them -- because that's the way i see it, as a lie they have believed and tell. it's not loving of me to be party to that; it's not rude of me not to, IMO. i don't go out of my way to throw it in their faces, and in fact i do change my speech to accommodate them -- however it's only in phrasing things to avoid pronoun use altogether.
 
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Again you err, sir. Truth is love speaking, not hate.
I do not err, I know what the God of truth says about this matter. You will find that the Lord God and all his holy followers say much the same in the holy scriptures of the Bible.
 

Didymous

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I do not err, I know what the God of truth says about this matter. You will find that the Lord God and all his holy followers say much the same in the holy scriptures of the Bible.
You may know the letter of the law, but it seems you don't know the spirit.
 

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My upstairs neighbor is a woman, her name is Angelika. She tried turning herself into a man, had her boobs cut off, her vagina fashioned in to a penis, and is taking male steroids/ hormones. Her "male" name is Aiden, but I refuse to call her that. I still call her Angelika even though she gets mad about it..

Just because a person gets their boobs or penis cut off, and starts taking opposite-gender steroids and hormones, does NOT mean that you are now the opposite sex. It merely means that you are now a defective, deformed male or female..
There is great truth in what Blue said.

Sometimes when I hear about what people do, I compare my dogs to humanity and my dogs often come out ahead, way ahead! Dogs would never think about cutting off or rearranging their body parts...some humans do!

Maybe dogs....and cats are smarter than many humans!
 
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You may know the letter of the law, but it seems you don't know the spirit.
No, I know the spirit behind the writings.

Here is what the Bible says, here is how Lord God sees this thing in two passages from the Old testament and two passages from the New Testament.

Leviticus 20:13

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.



1 Kings 15:11-12
11 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.


12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.


Romans 1:26-28
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:


27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.




28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
 

Subhumanoidal

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Not godly enough I concede, Lord God said plainly to put them to death whereas I have said to just avoid them. You are correct to rebuke me, Lord God's way is the correct way. I merely think that the great wickedness which our evil parents and our evil generation has allowed, and even encouraged, is so out of hand that there is little that we can do besides try to endure and wait for Lord Jesus to come and slaughter all of Satan's disgusting children, and save us from them, just like he promised, praise Jesus.



No idea, but I bet you could look it up.
I just assumed you were a member, by how you speak.
 

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TW!!!

First off, I can not wait to be banned! The transphobia and homophobia in this thread is why people will never come to see Jesus. I just don't get it. First off, some of you need to obviously read your Bibles correctly or at least get your eyes checked because the Bible and the message of Jesus is explicitly to LOVE. Being a transphobic homophobic idiot won't really do much for that will it. Second, google is your best friend. It takes no more than 5 minutes to research aspects of the bible and to realize that the translations you are reading are wrong. The Bible does not speak of homosexuality. What you are thinking and referencing as "homosexual acts" is actually referencing a man raping his slaves. The word for homosexuality at the time of the Bible being written was not used. Yes, you read that correctly. The word used to describe HOMOSEXUALITY WAS NOT USED IN THE BIBLE! The Bible you are reading and cling so passionately to was mistranslated in order to control the people and make laws against groups of people. Maybe do a few minutes of research and you will see. Now to my next point, transgender people. Studies show that people who identify as transgender actually have the brain of the gender they identify with. Crazy right? And those chromosomes I saw mentioned, yeah its a lot more complex than that. Again a few minutes of research can save you from deterring people from the religion you cling so passionately too. I don't know, I don't think to put facts out there will rationalize with people who spew this hatred, but I hope it can plant a few seeds in some people. Jesus wouldn't have been like this. I'm sorry if I come across as condescending I just can't tolerate homophobia and transphobia when so many people are suffering. Even if you don't agree with the "lifestyles" (which again, they arent lifestyles, people are born gay and some people are born with the wrong gender) it takes literally nothing away from you to respect someone's pronouns.
 

Subhumanoidal

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TW!!!

First off, I can not wait to be banned! The transphobia and homophobia in this thread is why people will never come to see Jesus. I just don't get it. First off, some of you need to obviously read your Bibles correctly or at least get your eyes checked because the Bible and the message of Jesus is explicitly to LOVE. Being a transphobic homophobic idiot won't really do much for that will it. Second, google is your best friend. It takes no more than 5 minutes to research aspects of the bible and to realize that the translations you are reading are wrong. The Bible does not speak of homosexuality. What you are thinking and referencing as "homosexual acts" is actually referencing a man raping his slaves. The word for homosexuality at the time of the Bible being written was not used. Yes, you read that correctly. The word used to describe HOMOSEXUALITY WAS NOT USED IN THE BIBLE! The Bible you are reading and cling so passionately to was mistranslated in order to control the people and make laws against groups of people. Maybe do a few minutes of research and you will see. Now to my next point, transgender people. Studies show that people who identify as transgender actually have the brain of the gender they identify with. Crazy right? And those chromosomes I saw mentioned, yeah its a lot more complex than that. Again a few minutes of research can save you from deterring people from the religion you cling so passionately too. I don't know, I don't think to put facts out there will rationalize with people who spew this hatred, but I hope it can plant a few seeds in some people. Jesus wouldn't have been like this. I'm sorry if I come across as condescending I just can't tolerate homophobia and transphobia when so many people are suffering. Even if you don't agree with the "lifestyles" (which again, they arent lifestyles, people are born gay and some people are born with the wrong gender) it takes literally nothing away from you to respect someone's pronouns.
While i no fan of being hateful towards these people, the debate of being born or not is pretty much a toss up. Which answer you get depends on where you look. People against it have studies saying it's a choice. Those for it will say it's not a choice. I don't know which is actually right. Nor do i care, quite honestly. It's not changing my view either way.
There are some who, admittedly, do seem to have a natural aspect of this issue. But it's also well documented that same sex sexual child abuse is also a common factor. So to say, by default, all in that lifestyle are born that way has been proven false. As to the others, again, i don't know. As studies invalidate one another.
I've also heard studies state that those who underwent gender reassignment surgery and spent their lives that way will 'forget' their altered gender and revert back to their physical gender, when dealing with issues such as Alzheimers.

Unfortunately, no matter how passionate your response seems, it simply screams 'liberally influenced college student'. Angrily ranting about gender matters while condescendingly sharing information that sounds like you're repeating what a professor taught you and raging against religious beliefs. There are countless videos on YouTube of SJW's and liberals that, literally, sound identical to how you do now. You likely view yourself as well informed, but your approach makes you sound very typical. It would seem the very approach you're condemning others for is also found in your response. Spitefully spewing information while talking down to people and mocking their belief. Then talking about others not being able to rationalize while not sounding rational yourself.
Quite honestly your post sounds no different than those you're condemning, except for the opposing view. And a lot more rage.

And i say that as a non-Christian that believes in being respectful to the same people you do. But you'll win nothing with anyone with this approach. Which is why similar people are so commonly mocked on YT. Anger, rage and passion don't prove points.
 
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I think it’s safe to say that there are various opinions on the matter. It’s difficult to know what to believe when it comes to born that way/choice/chromosomes/brain.

The main thing, yet, must be to treat each other respectfully and not resort to hate speech, condescending posts and other ways of displaying disrespectful behavior.

Unfortunately, my experience is that people claiming to have the one and only truth, don’t believe a respectful way of treating people applies to them.
 
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TW!!!

First off, I can not wait to be banned! The transphobia and homophobia in this thread is why people will never come to see Jesus. I just don't get it. First off, some of you need to obviously read your Bibles correctly or at least get your eyes checked because the Bible and the message of Jesus is explicitly to LOVE. Being a transphobic homophobic idiot won't really do much for that will it. Second, google is your best friend. It takes no more than 5 minutes to research aspects of the bible and to realize that the translations you are reading are wrong. The Bible does not speak of homosexuality. What you are thinking and referencing as "homosexual acts" is actually referencing a man raping his slaves. The word for homosexuality at the time of the Bible being written was not used. Yes, you read that correctly. The word used to describe HOMOSEXUALITY WAS NOT USED IN THE BIBLE! The Bible you are reading and cling so passionately to was mistranslated in order to control the people and make laws against groups of people. Maybe do a few minutes of research and you will see. Now to my next point, transgender people. Studies show that people who identify as transgender actually have the brain of the gender they identify with. Crazy right? And those chromosomes I saw mentioned, yeah its a lot more complex than that. Again a few minutes of research can save you from deterring people from the religion you cling so passionately too. I don't know, I don't think to put facts out there will rationalize with people who spew this hatred, but I hope it can plant a few seeds in some people. Jesus wouldn't have been like this. I'm sorry if I come across as condescending I just can't tolerate homophobia and transphobia when so many people are suffering. Even if you don't agree with the "lifestyles" (which again, they arent lifestyles, people are born gay and some people are born with the wrong gender) it takes literally nothing away from you to respect someone's pronouns.

All you people see all this written here. You see what happens when you compromise away the truth of God? Do you people see now how you let a little lie, a little leaven, and it turns into a massive abomination full of deception? Are you all not rather ashamed that you let your children become so deceived like this one here, lining up rank and file to join forces with Satan?

There are only two kingdoms; The kingdom of lies and the kingdom of truth, the kingdom of Satan and the kingdom of God. The two kingdoms can only fight eachother, they cannot fight themselves. God's kingdom will prevail and all the truth which God spoke shall come to pass and his judgements which he pronounced from times ancient will not be changed for all the lies in the world, in the name of Jesus, amen.
 
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All you people see all this written here. You see what happens when you compromise away the truth of God? Do you people see now how you let a little lie, a little leaven, and it turns into a massive abomination full of deception? Are you all not rather ashamed that you let your children become so deceived like this one here, lining up rank and file to join forces with Satan?

There are only two kingdoms; The kingdom of lies and the kingdom of truth, the kingdom of Satan and the kingdom of God. The two kingdoms can only fight eachother, they cannot fight themselves. God's kingdom will prevail and all the truth which God spoke shall come to pass and his judgements which he pronounced from times ancient will not be changed for all the lies in the world, in the name of Jesus, amen.
So you’re acquitting yourself and condemning her?
 

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All you people see all this written here. You see what happens when you compromise away the truth of God? Do you people see now how you let a little lie, a little leaven, and it turns into a massive abomination full of deception? Are you all not rather ashamed that you let your children become so deceived like this one here, lining up rank and file to join forces with Satan?

There are only two kingdoms; The kingdom of lies and the kingdom of truth, the kingdom of Satan and the kingdom of God. The two kingdoms can only fight eachother, they cannot fight themselves. God's kingdom will prevail and all the truth which God spoke shall come to pass and his judgements which he pronounced from times ancient will not be changed for all the lies in the world, in the name of Jesus, amen.
I agree with your stance on the seriousness of the transgression, but I suggest you are forgetting that but for the grace of God, go we.
 
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God loves the sinner, not the sin.
Well, if you reread his posts you will see that the hatred is not only directed at the sin.
 

Moses_Young

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Well, if you reread his posts you will see that the hatred is not only directed at the sin.
Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Note that God does not say "Esau's sin have I hated."

It is needful that when describing God's love by sending Jesus to die for us, we don't discount His righteous wrath at sin. To do so is to describe a false god.

All who do not believe in Jesus will go to Hell, the place prepared for Satan and his demons, irrespective of the love God showed through Jesus.
 
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Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Note that God does not say "Esau's sin have I hated."

It is needful that when describing God's love by sending Jesus to die for us, we don't discount His righteous wrath at sin. To do so is to describe a false god.

All who do not believe in Jesus will go to Hell, the place prepared for Satan and his demons, irrespective of the love God showed through Jesus.
You’re taking Romans 9:13 grossly out of context. That’s cherry picking. No more, no less.
 

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So I know that God has given us one gender, man or woman. But what do we do when their “preferred pronoun” is one of the LGBT pronunciations?

Yes it’s respectful to the person, but what would God say? Hm...


God will spew them out of His mouth because they are neither hot nor cold. Neither male or female. That is how detestable they are to the Lord. There are things that are abominations to God and homosexuality is one of them. God is entitled to hate them but we are not.