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So tell me, why should I follow your God?And why should I follow your religion?And why should I follow after your institution?When the example that i'm getting here for the most part is named calling, blaming, people who are Sensitive and can't take honest criticism that I'm backing up with facts. Who are laughing and have vengeance towards me, its hypocrisy and bigoted behavior at its best.
Why would I want to follow that kind of God?Why would I want to follow an institution that produces an example like this? Tell me why should I.
 

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Docetism, Montanism, Adoptionism, Universalism, Valentinianism, Sabellianism, Gnosticism, Marcionism, Monarchianism, Modalism, Patripassianism, Psilanthropism, Sethianism, Basilideanism, Novatianism, Arianism, Donatism, Apollinarianism, Tritheism, Collyridianism, Binitarianism, Subordinationism, Anomoeanism, Antidicomarians, Nestorianism, Pelagianism, Eutychianism, Monophysitism, Miaphysitism, Three Chapters, Iconoclasm, Monothelitism, Paulicianism, Catharism, Stephanism, Socinianism, Protestantism, Jansenism, Quietism, Febronianism, Americanism,Feeneyism, Modernism
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All of this is false doctrine.
 
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All of this is false doctrine.
Including protestantism? Every one of the Christian institutions fall into one of these camps and that why they are all decisive and sow devision. Their fruit is not of god.
 

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So tell me, why should I follow your God?
Follow the God of the Bible.

And why should I follow your religion?
Follow Christ, who said "no man comes to the Father but by me."


And why should I follow after your institution?
Bible says "forsake not the assembling together."


When the example that i'm getting here for the most part is named calling, blaming, people who are Sensitive and can't take honest criticism
that I'm backing up with facts.
But it's not honest, it's your opinion. And you're free to share it. There are 210 million Christians give or take in America. You say "they are bigots". Well how many do you know personally?! If you want to say, "the Christians I have known personally do this or that, ok, fine." But to label people you don't even know and have never met is not honest criticism.

Why would I want to follow that kind of God?
Because God holds you accountable for your actions the same as everyone else. Worry about your own salvation and your own heart and if someone is wrong God will correct them. That isn't your job. You answer for you. And you're not perfect either.
 
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So tell me, why should I follow your God?And why should I follow your religion?And why should I follow after your institution?When the example that i'm getting here for the most part is named calling, blaming, people who are Sensitive and can't take honest criticism that I'm backing up with facts. Who are laughing and have vengeance towards me, its hypocrisy and bigoted behavior at its best.
Why would I want to follow that kind of God?Why would I want to follow an institution that produces an example like this? Tell me why should I.
I think the only Christian group I can honestly say has been loving, Kind, peaceful, understanding and patient towards me would be the Greek orthodox. But I can't excuse all the doctrines that has caused division through them. If I were to join a group I would most certainly join them. And it's very possible I may.
 

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Including protestantism? Every one of the Christian institutions fall into one of these camps and that why they are all decisive and sow devision. Their fruit is not of god.
All those you mentioned? No, they are false doctrine. Christian means Christ follower, I am not ashamed of that Name, nor should anyone else be.
 
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Follow the God of the Bible.



Follow Christ, who said "no man comes to the Father but by me."




Bible says "forsake not the assembling together."




But it's not honest, it's your opinion. And you're free to share it. There are 210 million Christians give or take in America. You say "they are bigots". Well how many do you know personally?! If you want to say, "the Christians I have known personally do this or that, ok, fine." But to label people you don't even know and have never met is not honest criticism.



Because God holds you accountable for your actions the same as everyone else. Worry about your own salvation and your own heart and if someone is wrong God will correct them. That isn't your job. You answer for you. And you're not perfect either.
I agree with most of what your saying. Thank you.
 

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I think the only Christian group I can honestly say has been loving, Kind, peaceful, understanding and patient towards me would be the Greek orthodox. But I can't excuse all the doctrines that has caused division through them. If I were to join a group I would most certainly join them. And it's very possible I may.

Great, find where you are happy and serve the Lord there.
 

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I think the only Christian group I can honestly say has been loving, Kind, peaceful, understanding and patient towards me would be the Greek orthodox. But I can't excuse all the doctrines that has caused division through them. If I were to join a group I would most certainly join them. And it's very possible I may.
It is easy to love someone that loves you. Why can't you love a bigot?
 
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It is easy to love someone that loves you. Why can't you love a bigot?
I believe that's the whole point is, if you're going to follow Christ you're loving towards everyone. I'm just going through a hard time and trying to figure some things out and I'm throwing a fit. My apologies.
 

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Good! I am not saying Christians are perfect. But sometimes we focus too much on the negatives. Find a place where you feel is the best for you then set to winning the world for Christ. When people complain about Christians I say church is like a hospital. We all come broken in different degrees. Jesus is the healer, if we allow Him to be. But we don't focus on other Christians, we focus on Christ!! Humans will always fail in some manner. That is why we fix our eyes on Him and do not waver. And the more we all do that, the more unity we will find. But we have to get our eyes of others, ourselves and on Him!! I do home you find that place and then start ministering to those lost and in need.
 

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I believe that's the whole point is, if you're going to follow Christ you're loving towards everyone. I'm just going through a hard time and trying to figure some things out and I'm throwing a fit. My apologies.
Growing isn't always easy. Sometimes it's painful.But when we look back we see the lessons God taught us in the dry times. Then the rain comes and refreshes us again. It's ok to have growing pains.
 

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Including protestantism? Every one of the Christian institutions fall into one of these camps and that why they are all decisive and sow devision. Their fruit is not of god.
Dude. You're slipping. Your word choice is becoming more erratic and your spelling is degrading.

Come on man, hold it together. We get so few decent trolls these days. I can't bear for the show to end now.
 

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This conversation is no longer fruitful. Im sorry we couldn't agree.
I refered to the translators of the KJ Bible.
Your response was,

"Im anti organisation's because they push dagma, hate and sow devision. They also teach bigoted views and there for its the work of the devil."

It's one thing to disagree on which Bible is the Word of God.
It's another to attribute to the works of the Holy Spirit as something that is a work of the devil. Perhaps we disagree on the KJV being a work of the Holy Spirit. That's what He used since the 1600s to convert the English speaking world.
My context was the work of translation concerning the Holy Spirit inspired words.
His words are often very divisive. Jesus Himself was devisive whenever appropriate. Jesus also hated certain people. Just read the gospels. Read Revelation and He is the most judgemental and hateful person on the earth when He brings His fierce judgement.

I fear for people when they make such statements. I do not want the wrath of God to come upon them.
 

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I believe that's the whole point is, if you're going to follow Christ you're loving towards everyone. I'm just going through a hard time and trying to figure some things out and I'm throwing a fit. My apologies.
I know what it's like to go through a hard time. There's no reason to add to that. I don't want to get involved with fruitless arguments over a language that neither of us even speaks either.

It sounds like you are basing your decision to join an Orthodox church upon their acceptance. There are many religions I could list that are also very accepting of the beliefs you state. However, you should know that faith, sacraments, ie baptism, confession to a priest, and good works are required for salvation according to Orthodox churches.
Salvation from what?
Here < are the beliefs of various Orthodox Denominations and their distinctions.

I hope you pray at the end of This Link and receive a great life forever.