I’m in California and I can sense the Hate

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JaumeJ

JaumeJ

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seantspence said:
Anyone my brother or mother invites into our house can’t look at me in the eye. I don’t know who they are inviting into our house, why they feel so intimidated. Maybe cause I’m a big guy with a beard.

Also, people out on the street when I’m walking in public, if I look at them, they look away really quick, as if I frighten them. My neighbors don’t talk to me, unless I say hi to them. When I’m walking in my neighborhood and I pass by people who are also walking, I say hello and I get complete silence/ignoring from them. I’m obviously not welcomed there.

its strange in Los Angeles county. I grew up in Orange County and moved to Long Beach ten years ago.
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I enlisted in the USAF from LB. I did go back to visit from my bases but that was about it. When I was there growing up it was friendly enought, but I left upon my enlistment, 1962.
They used to say California is hundres of miles long, a coule of hundred wida and 1/2 inch deep. I guess it always had a bad rep...
After having lived in several midwas, eastern and on the Gulf coast, now in Spain, I believe the entire scope has gone, or is going into darkenss. God bless you, and know that in many places today people are experiencing the same as are you.
 
Bob-Carabbio

Bob-Carabbio

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seantspence said:
Can anyone else?
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Nope everything's FINE in Texas. I had HOPED that the election would be a landslide so that the SWAMP couldn't make problems. and it was!!!

I do feel sympathy for the MEDIA Talking heads, since the VIOLENCE they prayed for hasn't happened. Too bad the media will have to develop something else to bawl about.
 
Lynx

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hornetguy said:
Yes, in that scenario, if he was in some sort of job obligation, sure... definitely discuss it with the pastor, because your leaving would affect the "team".

If he is simply a member of the church, then I would wonder about his hesitation to move until his pastor "approved" it.... just a different way of looking at things, I guess.

I've known pastors/preachers that had no business giving any life advice to anyone. They were good a preaching a sermon, but not qualified to give advice.

That gets into one of my pet peeves.... it seems that in the world of protestantism, a lot of people call anyone that preaches, a "pastor", even if they do not meet the scriptural definition of pastor/elder/overseer. At our church, we used to have a pretty good preacher... he was young, and energetic, and pretty sound, scripturally.. He was a good speaker. But he was in no way qualified to be a pastor/elder/overseer.... he simply did not have the maturity and experience required for that position.

Asking someone like that for advice, simply because he's a "pastor" would be foolhardy, IMO.
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Maybe that's a regional thing.

Here in West Tennessee we only refer to the one who shepherds a church as a pastor. There's lots of ministers, but most of them are not pastors.

I am definitely not a pastor, nor do I ever want to be. My pastor does the job much better than I would have the patience to. I'm happy just being a minor preacher. And around here we don't call those pastors.
 
hornetguy

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Lynx said:
Maybe that's a regional thing.

Here in West Tennessee we only refer to the one who shepherds a church as a pastor. There's lots of ministers, but most of them are not pastors.

I am definitely not a pastor, nor do I ever want to be. My pastor does the job much better than I would have the patience to. I'm happy just being a minor preacher. And around here we don't call those pastors.
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Yeah.... the church I attend has several "pastors"... and they are the ones that shepherd the "flock".... one of them happens to be our full time pulpit preacher, as well. He fits the scriptural definition of a pastor/shepherd/elder...
I am not really in favor of having one person "shepherd" a congregation.... that's a lot of responsibility and pressure to put on one person. I think that's why Paul told Timothy to appoint "elders".... plural.... the men fulfilling that role are also called bishops/overseers/pastors/elders.... so, to be honest, I don't like using the term "pastor" for the guy that preaches the sermons.... unless he is, actually fulfilling the scriptural role of a pastor. Many of the younger preachers do not qualify for that, until they are older, with grown children, etc... they have to have lived life, and learned from mistakes, in order to be able to "shepherd" others in the congregation...
 
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