"I am coming" Saith the Lord

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Lad

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ok........
 
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Crazy4GODword

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And actually I remembered, its the Jews who will go through the Tribulation and be saved, that makes sense so that proves pre
 
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Crazy4GODword

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Actually the plan is in Romans 11, if you want to study that you also can see what God is doing. Or I can explain it to you.
 
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silverwind

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The first half of the tribulation is just the beginning of sorrows. look around. more and more severe catastrophes! the great tribulation as well as the worldwide persecution will last only 1260 days which is actually the second half of the whole 7 year-tribulation period. As far as the Antichrist goes. read the links above. i am afraid the first one is currently not working, but it will soon. Barack Hussein Obama who will be the head of the soon coming one world-government fulfilled Daniel 9:27 on October 29, 2008! Now then, that was the first day of the tribulation...

You read the article from Ron Reese?
 
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HeroOfGod

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You read the article from Ron Reese?
I am on Ron's mailing list and I agree with Him. I do believe the 7 year trib has begun and that Obama is the AC. Not only he, but many people receive supernatural confirmations of this fact around the world..
 
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Laodicea

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I am on Ron's mailing list and I agree with Him. I do believe the 7 year trib has begun and that Obama is the AC. Not only he, but many people receive supernatural confirmations of this fact around the world..
Where is the starting point mentioned in the Bible? What event in the Bible is mentioned as the starting point? I do not believe in a 7 year tribulation, but show me from the Bible what the starting point is and I will read it.
 
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Lad

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Where is the starting point mentioned in the Bible? What event in the Bible is mentioned as the starting point? I do not believe in a 7 year tribulation, but show me from the Bible what the starting point is and I will read it.
I always thought the tribulation began with the first seal, but i guess not :/
 
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HeroOfGod

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Where is the starting point mentioned in the Bible? What event in the Bible is mentioned as the starting point? I do not believe in a 7 year tribulation, but show me from the Bible what the starting point is and I will read it.
Daniel 9:27 - The Antichrist will confirm his covenant with many for one week (biblical 7 years) The second half or the last 1260 days of this period is what is called the Great tribulation. First, it has to be noted that there is nothing in this context that would refer to a 7-year peace treaty made with Israel. No. the hebrew words Gabar, Beryith, Rab speak for themselves - confirm or strengthen his covenant or his promises with many that is a great multitude of people. That event took place on Oct 29, 2008.

I suggest you read Obama's confirming of the covenant part 1 and 2. I think at the link below it is very well explained why the book of revelation is not in chronological order. the seal judgments and trumpet judgments run concurrently or randomly rather than consecutively, so the mystery of the 30-minute silence in heaven now seems to be solved!

Found in the Book of Revelation--Obama's Covenant--Part 1 - THE FINAL 7 YEARS ARE HERE!! JESUS IS COMING VERY SOON! ARE YOU READY???

The 1260 day long great tribulation will start 1260 days from the confirming of the covenant that is on April 11 , 2012. The day the Antichrist sets up the tabarnacle of his palace on the Temple Mount (Daniel 11:45) declaring himself God and demanding worship. (That's clearly not the Milennial Temple described in Ezekiel 40 through 48, the third temple will be built after the return of Christ and Christ shall be the first to enter it.)

So, using maths, the whole tribulation concludes on September 23, 2015 - Yom Kippur , Day of Atonement - the holiest feast on the Jewish calendar when Jesus is spupposed to return to this Earth at the battle of Armageddon.

the signs we've got are beyond mere chance. On September 23, 2015, The 70th Jubilee cycle will conclude that began on June 7, 1967 when the commendmant to restore and rebuild Jeruslaem was announced. As prophesized by Daniel, 49 years, one jubilee, that is 17640 days will pass from the restoration of Jerusalem to the coming of the Messiah. Day of Atonement , 2015 is also the end of a Sabbatical cycle that began exactly 2520 days earlier on Oct, 29, 2008. The very day Obama confirmed his covenant with many and that if he is elected he would change the world.
Daniel 7:25 declares the AC will think to change the world and the laws..

In case you are interested, for why not? you can find intriguing videos about Barack Obama. Why the winning numbers of the lottery (pick 3) were 666 the day he was elected. Why he had the secret codename - "Renegade" meaning lawless one, the way Paul calls the AC in 2 Thess 2..

1.) Mystery Babylon (Book of Revelation 17-18) and the Antichrist revealed!

2.) Obama and 7 strange coincidences

3.) Did Jesus give us the name of the Antichrist?

4.) Obama mocks Jesus Christ

5.) Obama's slogan: "Thank you, Satan"

6.) Obama says, "Serve Satan"

7.) Barack Obama is the Antichrist!

8.) Is Barack Obama the Antichrist?

9.) Is Barack Obama the Antichrist? (part 1)

10.)Is Barack Obama the Antichrist (part 2)


and nothing has been said about the blood red moons as yet. Jesus said there will be signs in the sun and the moon and the following chart demonstrates the relation between the occurance of tetrads over Jerusalem and major events in Jewsih history. Check this out please: www.signsofthetimes777-endtimeschart.webs.com

So I can boldly say that the events confirmed by tetrads are:

May 14, 1948 - Birth of Israel
June 7 , 1967 - Capturing Jerusalem in the 6-day war
September 23, 2015 - all signs are pointing towards this being the return of Jesus at the end of the 7-year tribulation.

coincidence? I do not believe in coincidences. The evil system is forming. The New world order will take control soon and the one world government, one world currency, one world religion will be enforced just as written in revelations, the kingdom of the beast. It's all here, it's all real, these are the last days, no doubt about it. As far as the Rapture, it is our great escape, The Rapture will take place just before or simultenously with the sudden destruction planned by the NWO - which could well be a nuclear warfare to depopulate the Earth and then insert chips (the mark of the beast) and manipulate the survivors. This global and catacylismic destruction as well as the Rapture must take place by or before April 11, 2012. Why? it is simple! The AC cannot declare himself God and take full control until the restrainer (the holy spirit and all the spirit-filled dchristians) are here. The next event to watch for is the Rapute.

Get ready, stay ready! and let's all rejoice for our redemption is drawing near!
 
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HeroOfGod

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Daniel 9:27 - The Antichrist will confirm his covenant with many for one week (biblical 7 years) The second half or the last 1260 days of this period is what is called the Great tribulation. First, it has to be noted that there is nothing in this context that would refer to a 7-year peace treaty made with Israel. No. the hebrew words Gabar, Beryith, Rab speak for themselves - confirm or strengthen his covenant or his promises with many that is a great multitude of people. That event took place on Oct 29, 2008.

I suggest you read Obama's confirming of the covenant part 1 and 2. I think at the link below it is very well explained why the book of revelation is not in chronological order. the seal judgments and trumpet judgments run concurrently or randomly rather than consecutively, so the mystery of the 30-minute silence in heaven now seems to be solved!

Found in the Book of Revelation--Obama's Covenant--Part 1 - THE FINAL 7 YEARS ARE HERE!! JESUS IS COMING VERY SOON! ARE YOU READY???

The 1260 day long great tribulation will start 1260 days from the confirming of the covenant that is on April 11 , 2012. The day the Antichrist sets up the tabarnacle of his palace on the Temple Mount (Daniel 11:45) declaring himself God and demanding worship. (That's clearly not the Milennial Temple described in Ezekiel 40 through 48, the third temple will be built after the return of Christ and Christ shall be the first to enter it.)

So, using maths, the whole tribulation concludes on September 23, 2015 - Yom Kippur , Day of Atonement - the holiest feast on the Jewish calendar when Jesus is spupposed to return to this Earth at the battle of Armageddon.

the signs we've got are beyond mere chance. On September 23, 2015, The 70th Jubilee cycle will conclude that began on June 7, 1967 when the commendmant to restore and rebuild Jeruslaem was announced. As prophesized by Daniel, 49 years, one jubilee, that is 17640 days will pass from the restoration of Jerusalem to the coming of the Messiah. Day of Atonement , 2015 is also the end of a Sabbatical cycle that began exactly 2520 days earlier on Oct, 29, 2008. The very day Obama confirmed his covenant with many and that if he is elected he would change the world.
Daniel 7:25 declares the AC will think to change the world and the laws..

In case you are interested, for why not? you can find intriguing videos about Barack Obama. Why the winning numbers of the lottery (pick 3) were 666 the day he was elected. Why he had the secret codename - "Renegade" meaning lawless one, the way Paul calls the AC in 2 Thess 2..

1.) Mystery Babylon (Book of Revelation 17-18) and the Antichrist revealed!

2.) Obama and 7 strange coincidences

3.) Did Jesus give us the name of the Antichrist?

4.) Obama mocks Jesus Christ

5.) Obama's slogan: "Thank you, Satan"

6.) Obama says, "Serve Satan"

7.) Barack Obama is the Antichrist!

8.) Is Barack Obama the Antichrist?

9.) Is Barack Obama the Antichrist? (part 1)

10.)Is Barack Obama the Antichrist (part 2)


and nothing has been said about the blood red moons as yet. Jesus said there will be signs in the sun and the moon and the following chart demonstrates the relation between the occurance of tetrads over Jerusalem and major events in Jewsih history. Check this out please: www.signsofthetimes777-endtimeschart.webs.com

So I can boldly say that the events confirmed by tetrads are:

May 14, 1948 - Birth of Israel
June 7 , 1967 - Capturing Jerusalem in the 6-day war
September 23, 2015 - all signs are pointing towards this being the return of Jesus at the end of the 7-year tribulation.

coincidence? I do not believe in coincidences. The evil system is forming. The New world order will take control soon and the one world government, one world currency, one world religion will be enforced just as written in revelations, the kingdom of the beast. It's all here, it's all real, these are the last days, no doubt about it. As far as the Rapture, it is our great escape, The Rapture will take place just before or simultenously with the sudden destruction planned by the NWO - which could well be a nuclear warfare to depopulate the Earth and then insert chips (the mark of the beast) and manipulate the survivors. This global and catacylismic destruction as well as the Rapture must take place by or before April 11, 2012. Why? it is simple! The AC cannot declare himself God and take full control until the restrainer (the holy spirit and all the spirit-filled dchristians) are here. The next event to watch for is the Rapute.

Get ready, stay ready! and let's all rejoice for our redemption is drawing near!
This, I also wanted to share:

http://gatewaytoheaven.ning.com/forum/topics/people-wake-up-nwo-isnt?commentId=3151142%3AComment%3A43994
 
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silverwind

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I am on Ron's mailing list and I agree with Him. I do believe the 7 year trib has begun and that Obama is the AC. Not only he, but many people receive supernatural confirmations of this fact around the world..
you mean this?

Ron Reese (17 July 2009) “Did the Revealing of the Antichrist take place in Ghana on July 11th???” Twelve Books – Rapture, Anti Christ, End Time Signs, Prophecy, News

:)

he was wrong about one thing tho, and that was his rapture prediction. it was a serious mistake he made and is now called a 'false prophet'...when people do that they lose credibility

i do agree tho that we are in the 7 years, the mid-point (on precise calculation from the speech) would be April 11 (there is that 11 again)

the earthquake in Japan happened on March 11, the second one on April 11, then there's 9/11 of course and a whole bunch of other 11's happened on that day.... the BO speech was on the 29th (11) etc...

when Jesus said 'therefore I say WATCH'... he meant it!

(sorry i just noticed you had already posted the article)
 
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HeroOfGod

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you mean this?

Ron Reese (17 July 2009) “Did the Revealing of the Antichrist take place in Ghana on July 11th???” Twelve Books – Rapture, Anti Christ, End Time Signs, Prophecy, News

:)

he was wrong about one thing tho, and that was his rapture prediction. it was a serious mistake he made and is now called a 'false prophet'...when people do that they lose credibility

i do agree tho that we are in the 7 years, the mid-point (on precise calculation from the speech) would be April 11 (there is that 11 again)

the earthquake in Japan happened on March 11, the second one on April 11, then there's 9/11 of course and a whole bunch of other 11's happened on that day.... the BO speech was on the 29th (11) etc...

when Jesus said 'therefore I say WATCH'... he meant it!

(sorry i just noticed you had already posted the article)
setting a date for the Rapture is something that should not be done. Jesus said no one knows the day and the hour. So our great deliverance (the rapture) & sudden destruction will take place on an average day just like in the days of Noah and Lot.. This verse "no one knows the day and hour" definitely pertains to the Rapture and not the second coming. Just as the first coming of Christ could be known by those watching, so we will know His second coming. What we can know and do know about the rapture is that it will take place by or before the mid-point of the great tribulation for the reasons i explained above. but we still don't know which day it is. So Ron should not have predicted the day of the Rapture, but his failure concerning the rapture will not change the fact that we are in the 7-year trib, and the midpoint of it is in less than one year.
 
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silverwind

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setting a date for the Rapture is something that should not be done. Jesus said no one knows the day and the hour. So our great deliverance (the rapture) & sudden destruction will take place on an average day just like in the days of Noah and Lot.. This verse "no one knows the day and hour" definitely pertains to the Rapture and not the second coming. Just as the first coming of Christ could be known by those watching, so we will know His second coming. What we can know and do know about the rapture is that it will take place by or before the mid-point of the great tribulation for the reasons i explained above. but we still don't know which day it is. So Ron should not have predicted the day of the Rapture, but his failure concerning the rapture will not change the fact that we are in the 7-year trib, and the midpoint of it is in less than one year.
No one is setting a date for the Rapture... did I say rapture? (hope you didn't mean me) i said 'mid-point' from the time of the speech.
9/11 happened on the......um...... 11th. Japan earthquake happened on the 11th of March, the 2nd big one they had was a month later on the 11th... tomorrow is the 11th of June, and the Bilderberg group is haveing a secret meeting in Switzerland... the 11th day is meaningful to them. THIS IS WHY i said April 11, 2012... it's possibly the mid-point. I wasn't setting a date for any rapture.... read again. i agree with you, as I said, the article made alot of sense to me.
 
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AnandaHya

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I am on Ron's mailing list and I agree with Him. I do believe the 7 year trib has begun and that Obama is the AC. Not only he, but many people receive supernatural confirmations of this fact around the world..
wow??? Really??

I'm just not going to comment and pray for every one on this thread....



 
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HeroOfGod

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No one is setting a date for the Rapture... did I say rapture? (hope you didn't mean me) i said 'mid-point' from the time of the speech.
9/11 happened on the......um...... 11th. Japan earthquake happened on the 11th of March, the 2nd big one they had was a month later on the 11th... tomorrow is the 11th of June, and the Bilderberg group is haveing a secret meeting in Switzerland... the 11th day is meaningful to them. THIS IS WHY i said April 11, 2012... it's possibly the mid-point. I wasn't setting a date for any rapture.... read again. i agree with you, as I said, the article made alot of sense to me.
no I didn't mean you :) i am not setting a date for the rapture, either for the exact day of that event is unknown. as for April 11, 2012, it's definitely the mid-point! the article makes a lot of sense sure! and all i'm saying about the timing of the rapture is that we will be gone BY April 11,2012. because we won't be here during the 1260-day great tribulation! which day exactly? NOBODY knows.
 
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AnandaHya

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well if April 11 th comes and goes remember God's Love is eternal even if one is forced to endure tribulation...

Revelations 12
17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


kind of hard to make war with people who have been raptured into Heaven....

Revelations 14
Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those[g] who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me,[h] “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’”
“Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”


why announce this if people are raptured already? notice it says "blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on" kind of warns you to expect to DIE for your faith not be escape tribulation but to love GOD more then your own life.'
 
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silverwind

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no I didn't mean you :) i am not setting a date for the rapture, either for the exact day of that event is unknown. as for April 11, 2012, it's definitely the mid-point! the article makes a lot of sense sure! and all i'm saying about the timing of the rapture is that we will be gone BY April 11,2012. because we won't be here during the 1260-day great tribulation! which day exactly? NOBODY knows.
:) i agree..... time will tell as we get closer to 2012..
 
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silverwind

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well if April 11 th comes and goes remember God's Love is eternal even if one is forced to endure tribulation...

Revelations 12
17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

kind of hard to make war with people who have been raptured into Heaven....

Revelations 14
Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those[g] who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me,[h] “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’”
“Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”

why announce this if people are raptured already? notice it says "blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on" kind of warns you to expect to DIE for your faith not be escape tribulation but to love GOD more then your own life.'
based on your thread "where is Satan now"... you seem to point to the fact that he was thrown out of heaven long ago and is seeking to devour what he can... that includes every believer who puts his/her faith in Christ.. Satan has been seeking to destroy that which God loves for centuries... the Great Trib won't be anything like what the world has experienced, it will involve supernatural events and war between good and evil (angels and demons) Jesus and Satan, etc...
Did you know that there is a large object near the sun now? Do you think that might have something to do with Wormwood? Just at the time of Seal 6 the word WRATH is mentioned. Yep, God is going to slap around his children bigtime... (hint: he said we are not destined for his wrath)
 
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AnandaHya

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either way we can wait and see what happens.