I can't see the worth of life, so why am I here?

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have you ever prayed? If so what for?
I have not prayed for almost 6 years since i lost faith. the last prayer i made was asking god for comfort (I received none) in a time of great fear and pain.
 
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I have not prayed for almost 6 years since i lost faith. the last prayer i made was asking god for comfort (I received none) in a time of great fear and pain.
hey man - I would suggest, if you podcast - james macdonald - getting unstuck from depression

Based on the depression of Elijah, it's a real eye opener, speaks to my depressive feelings

I know in my life depression, and negative ways of dealing with situation was modeled by my parents, and then adopted into how I handled life

Depression for me was built on - perceived slights from other people, real or imagined, and unforgiven. Also unconfessed sin on my part as well. People basically didn't know what happened, so I would be mad, and they would be fine and oblivious to the hurt I felt - meanwhile I would watch them go about their lives like I didn't matter


Right now in my life - i have really seen my depression - stinking thinking - 'life is so awful' as a comfort, as sad as that sounds - it's like the one thing I can control in my life - my stinking thinking and my thoughts towards depression and despair

hope this helps
 
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You're here. Enjoy your life while it lasts.

Sometimes, you need to stand back and just appreciate being alive, for the ability to feel love and joy.
I'm not even sure if i know what love and joy feel like... i thought i knew them once but it seems so much negativity has taken their place that im not even sure what they feel like anymore... I feel so empty and yet feel so much pain. its hard to describe...

I cant appreciate what i cant feel... im trying to figure out how to feel at least a little love and joy again.
 
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I'm not even sure if i know what love and joy feel like... i thought i knew them once but it seems so much negativity has taken their place that im not even sure what they feel like anymore... I feel so empty and yet feel so much pain. its hard to describe...

I cant appreciate what i cant feel... im trying to figure out how to feel at least a little love and joy again.

Joy is actually a supernatural delight in the person, the purpose, and the people of God

Love primarily is a choice

Mind - Will - Emotions

The mind must be engaged to what God's word says
The will must be led by the mind to do whatever it says
Then we can trust that God will bring emotions to follow

Just some thoughts, God has used to sort me out
 
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if that's the price of wisdom, yes, wisdom is worth more than happiness or feelings.

i don't think that all love and happiness is the actual price of wisdom - but i do believe this:

For with much wisdom comes much sorrow;
the more knowledge, the more grief.

(Ecclesiastes 1:18)

i think Solomon was terminally depressed - quote Ecclesiastes to any psychologist and you'll probably be booked for bi-weekly sessions and a bucket of pills for the next 10 years - but i don't think he was totally without joy, or without love.

true love can hurt a lot in the short term, and turn into a lot of joy later.
there are a lot of things in the world that make people superficially happy, but to a wise person that sees through the charade it sickens their stomach even to see others enjoying it.
and if that wise person sees one other person that also understands - that's a happiness that comes much less often, but is better than the sum of all the happiness of the fools before.


I think i'd be willing to give up a little wisdom for a little happiness... but not superficial happiness. i want real happiness... if it exists.
 
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I used to have the roller coaster Christianity going - were it was based on circumstances,

Now I just want peace and joy - joy isn't based on circumstances
 
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There are many people here who are offering you friendship and love. No, we don't know each other personally. But, it is possible to form loving friendships on the internet. Two of my closest and dearest friends are women I met on the internet.

If you could let down your guard a little, I think you might actually find a friend or two here. I know you don't think any of us can truly care for you but, we do. I have read all of your posts and I get the impression that you do want people to care for you and love you. We are all God's children and He wants us to love one another. We are here for you if you would just give us a chance.

As far as happiness.....are you saying there is nothing that makes you happy? I often find true happiness in the smallest things. Hand-picked flowers from my husband, a thank you from a student for teaching them, a compliment from a co-worker......just little things.

I wish I had the words to help you with all that is going on in your life. I know that turning to God helps me. Reading the bible or talking to my pastor, husband, or member of my church family when I am down also helps.

God Bless, I am still praying for you.
Yes, there seems to be nothing that gives me happiness anymore. Things that used to give me happiness no longer do. things can disyract me from the pain but its not happiness.

the only thing i want in life is to feel loved. but in order to feel it, i have to believe it. but i dont believe anyone loves me. maybe they do but i cant believe it. whats wrong with me? Will i ever be able to believe it?? I dont know...
 
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Yes, there seems to be nothing that gives me happiness anymore. Things that used to give me happiness no longer do. things can disyract me from the pain but its not happiness.

the only thing i want in life is to feel loved. but in order to feel it, i have to believe it. but i dont believe anyone loves me. maybe they do but i cant believe it. whats wrong with me? Will i ever be able to believe it?? I dont know...

John 15:1-11 start reading that and praying over that

To know Christ is to love Christ
To love Christ is to obey Christ
to obey Christ is to abide in Christ
to abide in Christ is to bear fruit in Christ
to bear fruit in Christ is to have His Joy
 
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I believe that there are people that need your help in the world, you just need to figure out what. It can be simple as saying hi to someone who decided to rethink whatever sin they were going to commit or something technical like helping someone speak English. It gets tricky but after awhile you will start to see clearer as to what needs to be done.
I sure dont feel like much help. I feel like i just bother people...
 
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Joy is actually a supernatural delight in the person, the purpose, and the people of God

Love primarily is a choice

Mind - Will - Emotions

The mind must be engaged to what God's word says
The will must be led by the mind to do whatever it says
Then we can trust that God will bring emotions to follow

Just some thoughts, God has used to sort me out
It feels like i cant even control my own mind. like something else is in control...
 
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It feels like i cant even control my own mind. like something else is in control...
well - a Christian has been given a sound mind, though he can be depressed - despair - biblical counseling is important -

renewing your mind is extremely important
 

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I sure dont feel like much help. I feel like i just bother people...
i feel like you stepped right out of a dystopian anime.
it's not just the avatar, though it certainly fits - but you talk like you just came back from visiting the grave of the fireflies - it's kind of surreal, actually.
:)
at this point i think i'm either supposed to cook you a nice lunch to cheer you up, or disappear into the misty bamboo forest while you shake your fist at destiny.

that doesn't bother me. it may even help in some weird way.
 

posthuman

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It feels like i cant even control my own mind. like something else is in control...
from my point of view, i don't think anyone really controls their mind. before i gave my mind to Christ i was controlled by passions, lusts and all kinds of wicked things that lived in my heart, and not even "wicked" things but self-serving desires, and any devilish wind could blow my thinking where it pleased.

now Christ has been working in me, changing my heart and transforming my thinking. still i do the things i don't want to do, and don't do the things i want to do, so that it seems sometimes my mind can't control my body and my will can't control my mind either. i'm like a living mind transferred into the body of a zombie. i don't want to eat brains! but my body does. the apostle Paul wrote about this same thing.

at the basest of levels, i believe man is powerless to do any but one of two things: resist God or relent to Him. i think the nature of man is to be a vessel, if not for the Spirit of God, if we relent, than for another spirit, if we resist.
only Jesus can save us from that.
 
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Toska

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Yes, there seems to be nothing that gives me happiness anymore. Things that used to give me happiness no longer do. things can disyract me from the pain but its not happiness.

the only thing i want in life is to feel loved. but in order to feel it, i have to believe it. but i dont believe anyone loves me. maybe they do but i cant believe it. whats wrong with me? Will i ever be able to believe it?? I dont know...[/QUOTE

Has there been someone in your life where you were hurt very badly by them? Broken hearted? If that is the case, it would make sense that you would not believe another person could ever love you.

One thing I do know is that God loves you. He has always loved you and always will. You just have to open up your heart to Him and have faith. He is not giving up on you and neither are we. It took me over 40 years to realize that He does love me and He forgives me for the numerous times I sinned before He became a part of my life.

I cannot remember if you have already been asked this so I will ask again. Have you ever considered therapy? The right therapist could really help you. He/she could help you with the feelings of depression you are feeling. They are trained to help you through your problems and come out a much happier problem. I know that is what happened with me during therapy. I am not saying you are crazy or anything like that. Since we are not able to talk to you on the level that you are looking for, a therapist could be the way to get you past the feelings of depression and loneliness you are feeling. Just a thought.

God Bless

 
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Yes, there seems to be nothing that gives me happiness anymore. Things that used to give me happiness no longer do. things can disyract me from the pain but its not happiness.

the only thing i want in life is to feel loved. but in order to feel it, i have to believe it. but i dont believe anyone loves me. maybe they do but i cant believe it. whats wrong with me? Will i ever be able to believe it?? I dont know...[/QUOTE

Has there been someone in your life where you were hurt very badly by them? Broken hearted? If that is the case, it would make sense that you would not believe another person could ever love you.

One thing I do know is that God loves you. He has always loved you and always will. You just have to open up your heart to Him and have faith. He is not giving up on you and neither are we. It took me over 40 years to realize that He does love me and He forgives me for the numerous times I sinned before He became a part of my life.

I cannot remember if you have already been asked this so I will ask again. Have you ever considered therapy? The right therapist could really help you. He/she could help you with the feelings of depression you are feeling. They are trained to help you through your problems and come out a much happier problem. I know that is what happened with me during therapy. I am not saying you are crazy or anything like that. Since we are not able to talk to you on the level that you are looking for, a therapist could be the way to get you past the feelings of depression and loneliness you are feeling. Just a thought.

God Bless

1 John 4.8: 'God is love'.

Blessings.
 

PopClick

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What would you be willing to give up in order to feel joy?
 
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i feel like you stepped right out of a dystopian anime.
it's not just the avatar, though it certainly fits - but you talk like you just came back from visiting the grave of the fireflies - it's kind of surreal, actually.
:)
at this point i think i'm either supposed to cook you a nice lunch to cheer you up, or disappear into the misty bamboo forest while you shake your fist at destiny.

that doesn't bother me. it may even help in some weird way.
You could do both. Altho lunch won't cheer me up much, its still nice to have. if my heart must be empty, well at least my stomach can be full...
 
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from my point of view, i don't think anyone really controls their mind. before i gave my mind to Christ i was controlled by passions, lusts and all kinds of wicked things that lived in my heart, and not even "wicked" things but self-serving desires, and any devilish wind could blow my thinking where it pleased.

now Christ has been working in me, changing my heart and transforming my thinking. still i do the things i don't want to do, and don't do the things i want to do, so that it seems sometimes my mind can't control my body and my will can't control my mind either. i'm like a living mind transferred into the body of a zombie. i don't want to eat brains! but my body does. the apostle Paul wrote about this same thing.

at the basest of levels, i believe man is powerless to do any but one of two things: resist God or relent to Him. i think the nature of man is to be a vessel, if not for the Spirit of God, if we relent, than for another spirit, if we resist.
only Jesus can save us from that.
Altho its possible to feel in control when you're not and to not feel in control when you are...
 

damombomb

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Only Jesus can feel the emptiness in our heart, and it takes a commitment to him. I used to be depressed then i started putting
God first and he turned the negatives to positives, but you have to go to church and hear the word. Church is where you
get refreshed and rest for your spirit. Pray where the Lord would have you go, where you can be fed.
God bless you............