Is America done?

I'm glad to meet someone who can see through the lie. Do you believe that you will escape persecution however? I was just reading about how Christians were placed into a statue made of a bull I believe, and were roasted over a fire. I'm sure those Christians cried out for God's help. I struggle with the faith sometimes when the promises don't seem to come true.

Yes we're to watch for the signs and it does look like it. I've been trying to read up on prophecy but the theories are as varied as there are teachers so it's very hard.

I was going by the horses released in Revelations. It appears that the pale horse either has been released or will soon be. One third of the inhabitants of the earth are going to be killed (many thousands have been killed by the shot) and also famine and also to take peace from the earth. I believe that will happen when the supply chain completely breaks down and chaos ensues. I factored in that the Deagal gov. website has the population of America greatly reduced by 2025. Where did they get that at? They came out with this years back.

So it appears it's upon us - I just would like to know where in the timeline and what to expect next.

I agree with that. We're told in Revelations that the Beast wars against the saints and overcomes them. Not a welcoming thought.

No - I read a lot and I know what's coming that most are unaware of. I have endured a lot already in this life and I see how the country is breaking down into tyranny. Our own government murdered multiple people on 9-11 and you don't think things are that bad??? Every single day cops tase, sexually molest, beat up, crack skulls, and murder with impunity - the courts let them off. Police killed our neighbor's unarmed son and just beat to a pulp my friend's neighbor - putting him in the hospital. They beat up and robbed my brother! Police. There are barely any Constitutional protections left. Read Sons of Liberty Media and The Free Thought Project - and you'll see that America really is that bad.

I can't tell you how many kids I knew from Little League - fresh-faced, cute and boyish - now lying in a grave from drugs - flooded into the country by our own government. Journalist Gary Webb reported on it and they ruined his life and he committed suicide. Drugs literally flooded our area. I watched manufacturing sent overseas and cities gutted - like ours - that are now a wasteland of shuttered buildings and hopeless people who turn to drugs. We took a trip cross country and saw so many towns just like ours with businesses shuttered.

Look online for the guy who videos Philadelphia. It's an eye-opener to see multitudes of people walking around like zombies - high on drugs. Trash is strewn everywhere.

I went to a local Little League game and lost hope for America after watching this nasty youth. They were foul-mouthed, abusive, and ruthless. It sickened me. I could see the effects of a generation of Hollywood which idolizes and promotes the base things in life and churns out a nation of unethical, hateful, base youth.

The pitcher was the most abusive of all. His parents sat behind me - one a teacher, the other a Phd - and said not ONE word to their nasty child as he abused others. All the parents sat there clueless and none spoke up. I finally couldn't take it and I yelled at that kid. The people I was with shushed me, embarrassed, but I lit into him and then the coach for not correcting them. You could have heard a pin drop. But the nasty pitcher did something amazing: he turned and apologized to the boy he had just abused. So what was wrong with that kid's parents??? And the other parents???

So yes I lose hope when I see a generation of spoiled, abusive, unethical youth sinning right in the faces of parents and no one has the gumption to correct them. I don't see many good things happening now.

I find Corries story to be, at times, encouraging.
I've (tried to, through the fuzzy audio and heavy accents and old recordings) watched/listened to her share her stories, and I always hear her tell of how they would pray, and God would answer! One story that stands out is about how her or her sister had sniffles and needed a hankie. They prayed, a hankie was delivered to them.
Another story years and years later she was face to face with one of the Nazis who tormented them. They spoke, he sought forgiveness, it was difficult for her to do, but she talks about doing so AND leading this man to Christ.

That isn't what I gathered from the book. Betsy - Corrie's sister - died at Ravensbruck.

I read of a young Guatemalan girl promised work in America by a Mexican grandmother in Texas. The girl went with the Mexican grandmother and was forced into prostitution.

She was very devout and lost faith in God after being raped up to 100x a day.

I'm not referring to the book. I am referring to words that spoken directly by Corrie in an interview.
They might still be available on youtube.

Rape is a horrible thing! (I know first hand!) But I also know that Jesus told us that in THIS WORLD we would have many trials and tribulations, but to take heart because He has overcome this world.

If all one focuses on is the negative around them then that is all one will see.

This thread and saintrose are proof that even eating a brownie can be ruined if you think too hard about the raw egg that went into it.

If you look hard enough for something to condemn you will find it.

If you look hard enough for something to worry about you will find it.

And if you yell loud enough about the things you are condemning and worrying about... you just might convince a few others, and then you can tell yourself you are right because you got them to believe it too.

Scriptures tell us quite plainly that God is not going to save the world's countries; he will be saving His people, not society. It is said that in the last days our prayers are still heard, and our souls are still his if we are living his will. God's response to prayer is sometimes 'no' because he has better things planned for his people. We are not to expect him to save our jobs, lifestyles or countries, but our spirits.

The White Horse (Worldwide Deception) is already riding. The other horses aren't riding yet. The Red Horse (World War) will be next; the others will follow quickly as a result of War.

This is just my theory for the moment; I don't claim infallibility. My thinking on these things has changed many times and may very well change again. That's why I don't spend a lot of time speculating; it'll come when it comes.