Lutheran rosary?

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Innerfire89

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I heard a Lutheran pastor talk about using rosary and I was just wondering if that was a common practice by most Lutherans. By what the pastor said, Lutherans don't use rosary the same way Roman Catholics do, they don't ask for intercession from Mary and the beads are more of a reminder to meditate on core beliefs.

I just never heard of this before, so what's the deal?
 
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Well, you know that Martin Luther was originally a Catholic.
 
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I heard a Lutheran pastor talk about using rosary and I was just wondering if that was a common practice by most Lutherans. By what the pastor said, Lutherans don't use rosary the same way Roman Catholics do, they don't ask for intercession from Mary and the beads are more of a reminder to meditate on core beliefs.

I just never heard of this before, so what's the deal?
Never heard it either, so googled.

http://www.wikihow.com/Pray-the-Lutheran-Rosary
 

Innerfire89

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Well, you know that Martin Luther was originally a Catholic.
It's probably safe to say Luther prayed the rosary, and Calvin belived in the perpetual virginity of Mary. I'm not looking to have a dual with a Roman Catholic, but Rome left those early reformers more than the reformers left Rome.
 

Blain

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Honestly I don't even know what Lutherians believe so them using a Rosary would be over my head, but I never understood the point of using an item to pray I mean is it supposed to somehow enhance the power of the prayer? and for that matter why do people use oil to anoint a house?
 

Innerfire89

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Honestly I don't even know what Lutherians believe so them using a Rosary would be over my head, but I never understood the point of using an item to pray I mean is it supposed to somehow enhance the power of the prayer? and for that matter why do people use oil to anoint a house?
As far as I know, Lutherans are one of the most lithigural denominations, I didn't know it went that far though. I think they believe in transubstantiation also, not really sure though.
 

graceNpeace

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As far as I know, Lutherans are one of the most lithigural denominations, I didn't know it went that far though. I think they believe in transubstantiation also, not really sure though.
Is this supposed to be liturgical...
 

Blain

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As far as I know, Lutherans are one of the most lithigural denominations, I didn't know it went that far though. I think they believe in transubstantiation also, not really sure though.
Well I suppose in each branch of Christianity they have different ways of doing things, I don't know the depth of each one but I would assume that it probably is different from how I do things. I can't really say that it's wrong to use a rosary when prayer I mean whatever helps you to feel more comfortable talking with God if you need to use a rosary then I say by all means go for it.
However there is a limit to how lenient I am when it comes to prayer such as praying to Mary or using chanting.

But I have only heard of Catholics using those methods so perhaps this may be a new breed of Lutherians
 

Innerfire89

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Well I suppose in each branch of Christianity they have different ways of doing things, I don't know the depth of each one but I would assume that it probably is different from how I do things. I can't really say that it's wrong to use a rosary when prayer I mean whatever helps you to feel more comfortable talking with God if you need to use a rosary then I say by all means go for it.
However there is a limit to how lenient I am when it comes to prayer such as praying to Mary or using chanting.

But I have only heard of Catholics using those methods so perhaps this may be a new breed of Lutherians
I couldn't support them if they are praying repitive prayers, but if the beads are a simple reminder I see no problem with that.

Mat. 5:7 But when ye pray, do not use vain repetitions, like the heathen do: for they think they shall be heard for their much speaking.
 

Joidevivre

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It all seems so ritualistic to me. I don't like to be told what to pray and in the order of it.

My heart speaks very well by itself.
 

Innerfire89

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It all seems so ritualistic to me. I don't like to be told what to pray and in the order of it.

My heart speaks very well by itself.
Good point, prayer means nothing if you don't mean it.
 

Blain

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It all seems so ritualistic to me. I don't like to be told what to pray and in the order of it.

My heart speaks very well by itself.
I'm the same way, I mean if I can't talk to him with my heart and express myself in the way that he and I communicate best in then what is the point? For me prayer is more of a conversion than anything
 

Desertsrose

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It's probably safe to say Luther prayed the rosary, and Calvin belived in the perpetual virginity of Mary. I'm not looking to have a dual with a Roman Catholic, but Rome left those early reformers more than the reformers left Rome.
Hi Innerfire,

It's not accurate that Calvin believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary.
 

Desertsrose

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Yes, you're mistaken. He views Mary is the correct way; not as the Catholics do.
 
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It all seems so ritualistic to me. I don't like to be told what to pray and in the order of it.

My heart speaks very well by itself.
I think it has its advantages: Guiding and disciplining the mind, controlling straying thoughts and focus and whatnot.
 

Innerfire89

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I think it has its advantages: Guiding and disciplining the mind, controlling straying thoughts and focus and whatnot.
True. But we have a guide for prayer already though, the Lord's prayer. And we don't want to pray repitisiuosly.

Now if the the rosary is just being used as a reminder than I guess that's fine.