Question for men - why don't you wear make up?

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Any hint of wave is considered wavy/curly. In order for hair to be considered straight, it has to be board straight with no wave at all. This web page from Stanford University explains it better than I can: Understanding Genetics

Basically, CC is curly, ss is straight, Cs would be wavy. In order for someone to have straight hair, they'd have to inherit two recessive straight genes from both parents. If your Dad had wavy hair, then is genotype would be Cs, but his phenotype would be wavy. He could give you the straight hair gene, along with your Mom. This means that two people with wavy hair could have children with straight hair, since the wavy genotype is Cs.

I hope I did not thoroughly confuse you, :)
Mom's family tree was s. Straight up s. No one had curly. Dad's genes were Cs, but he is the only one who got curly. (Parents, aunts, uncles, and two sisters were all straight haired. Rumor has it one of his cousins had the curly hair, but never met that cousin.)

Six kids, and the only one with somewhat wavy hair only has it in the back on the left side. (Never figure out if that little bounce at the back top of his right side was a wave or a cowlick. lol)

Also both parents were brown-haired. Mom had brown eyes. Dad has hazel. BUT, Dad had platinum blond as a baby, and had dark brown hair by the time he went to school. (His hair was so dark, he looked like it was black until he went outside. When he started going gray, he claimed he was just going back to blond again. lol) And Dad's second wife was a duplicate of Mom. (He married someone because she reminded him of Mom. BUT, she has a redheaded brother, and Mom's siblings all had brown hair too.)
Six kids from oldest to youngest:
Brown straight hair. Blue eyes.
Brown straight hair. Brown eyes. (Sometimes can catch hazel if he's outside and wearing the right color shirt.)
Brown straight hair. Brown eyes. (Me.)
Brown straight (except those two spots) hair. Brown eyes.
Blonde straight. Blue eyes. :eek:
Brown straight hair. Brown eyes.

Which is why I always thought straight hair was the dominant.

The one thing that is dominant in my family is Irish and German. Two countries known for straight hair. (Okay, Miri. Ruin that delusion too. lol)
 

hornetguy

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You forgot to put your teeth in.

Mind you in my wild days and after a good few points you'd actually be pretty attractive.
Yes.... the old "beer goggle" phenomenon....
 

Angela53510

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Somehow I found my way to makeovers from watching heart wrenching puppy-rescue videos :D

[video=youtube;6vPEyQ1n3Ys]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vPEyQ1n3Ys[/video]
Wow! The magic of makeup! Taking the drab and ordinary, or even the deformed, and making it into beauty! And people wonder why I wear makeup, sometimes! LOL
 

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[video=youtube;SJ3Fvy7pcig]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ3Fvy7pcig[/video]

I would say by and large, most of these women have much better features in the before pics than the ordinary women. And they know how to take a good picture, makeup or not.

Quite an interesting contrast. This one goes from beauty to smashing!

Is it sad I hardly knew any of those actresses?

And what would a before and after pics of men look like?
 

Angela53510

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Believe it or not, my Mom was a teenager in the 1970s. She said they actually ironed their hair with a clothes iron like this because straight hair was "in". No one wanted curly or wavy hair. I think they must have been either very brave or very foolish to iron their hair like this.

Believe it or not, I was a teenager in the 1960's and I had friends who did this. I used to curl my hair, without fail, using horrid curlers you slept on. One day, I let it go natural, and the natural curls came out. I wish someone had told me that sooner.

My daughter straightens her hair every day. She has thin, mousy brown hair, but it has always curled wonderfully. As a four year old, I could put all her hair in a pony tail, and it would turn into one giant ringlet. My sister's hair did that, and she was also a blond. I guess my daughter got it from her? (She was supremely frustrated when she and her husband went on vacation in Florida, and the minute she walked out of the hotel, and it would go into a super frizz. Her husband likes her hair curly, but she won't stop straightening even for him!)

I never wanted straight hair for myself. I guess that was part of my rebel status. I never did anything that other women did. I did wear a bit of makeup when I was young, but mostly I got away without it.
 

Angela53510

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If my husband ever came out wearing make up, I would slap him silly! (Just joking - I'm not a slapper, and he would NEVER be a makeup wearer, even if he lost all the skin on his face! I can barely get him to comb his hair most days! LOL)

I am not much of a make up wearer. I wore it when I played professionally in a band, and yes, I wore high spiked heels. I had been a dancer, had good legs, and I never got tired, even after 5 hour sets. I can't fathom what it might have been doing to my feet, seeing as the damage I have now. I threw out all my high heels when I got RA, because it hurt too much. (To see them, I certainly could not wear them after the first year of so with the massive flares and deformities.) I did keep the satin pink toe slippers (as in ballet!). I wonder who once wore them?

I had wonderfully dark, brown hair with red highlights when I was young. My sister was a blond. She got the dark eyebrows and eye lashes. She would never let herself be seen in public or photographed without makeup. One day I was telling her the reason I wore eye make up, was because I had really long eyelashes, and no one could see them, because they were blond (now grey!) She accused me of stealing her eyebrows, which seemed reasonable to me! What would the genetics of that be, Galatea?

My mom has poker straight hair. My dad had a brush cut for many years. Apparently, as a child, my grandmother would not let him cut his long, curly blond locks. So a bit of an overreaction?

However, he was a university professor, and in the late 1960's, he found the students couldn't relate to him. He grew his hair out a bit, and he had a massive Afro. (Ukrainian heritage!) He became the favourite professor. Interesting how appearance really does affect how people perceive you. Anyway, to continue with Galatea's interesting genetic information, that was super curly and straight, making wavy/slightly curly hair in their three children! Thus proving Galatea's genetics. (Sorry I forgot to "reply with quotes")

Again, my sister cannot be seen without her hair perfect - straightened and dyed, now that it is grey!).

So, I wore makeup playing in bars, the least I can do is show up in church with makeup on? I have nice blue eyes, and they just look so much better when you can see the eyelashes. That is my excuse, and I am sticking to it!

PS. I have never really worn lipstick. I lick my lips a lot, because I have a dry mouth issue. And you really can't wear anything on your lips when you are playing flute and sax. It would be a mess! Then there is the fact that my mother was never without lipstick on her lips. So a bit of rebellion, maybe on my part, too?
 
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I just can't imagine myself being that desperate, and, let me tell you, I, me, she, has had
some pretty un-ordinary, desperate situations come-up in my life, both of us really) and always,
'un-expected'!

i had really crooked-teeth until my early twenties when I got braces...real white, but real crooked-they
turned-out amazing, but they're mostly 'gone' NOW, (partials) are holding me together there in that
particular spot!:eek:so that I can eat in a somewhat comfortable manner...TYJ!!!:)

most of ya'll reading probably won't believe what's 'just down the road-a-piece'...:rolleyes:
this kind of deception of wanting to change yourself into what this 'fallen-world's description of
acceptability is, well, guess what? ,
hub and me, most would consider us 'last/least-in-line-now, oh yeah, the younger 'Christians too' -
we just don't give a flitter for the 'world', we only care what our Saviour, Jesus Christ thinks/approves of
as we daily live our lives for Him.

but, it surely wasn't an easy thing to do, we have to learn how to 'let-go-and-believe-trust-live-in
Jesus Christ's Reality The One Who truly Loves-us and has claimed us as His own.
after 'conversion', we discover, by and by, that we 'truely only belong to Him', mostly through
the actions that we are asked/obligated/Commanded to do for Him because of the Love that
we have for His Holy Sacrifice...
His future for us is so Lovingly, un-imaginably, layed out-before-us, confirmed by His Holy Word...
 
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Believe it or not, I was a teenager in the 1960's and I had friends who did this. I used to curl my hair, without fail, using horrid curlers you slept on. One day, I let it go natural, and the natural curls came out. I wish someone had told me that sooner.

My daughter straightens her hair every day. She has thin, mousy brown hair, but it has always curled wonderfully. As a four year old, I could put all her hair in a pony tail, and it would turn into one giant ringlet. My sister's hair did that, and she was also a blond. I guess my daughter got it from her? (She was supremely frustrated when she and her husband went on vacation in Florida, and the minute she walked out of the hotel, and it would go into a super frizz. Her husband likes her hair curly, but she won't stop straightening even for him!)

I never wanted straight hair for myself. I guess that was part of my rebel status. I never did anything that other women did. I did wear a bit of makeup when I was young, but mostly I got away without it.
The funny thing was, my Mom curled our hair with sponge rollers on Saturday nights for church the next morning. I guess straight was out and curly was in in the 1980s. I know a lot of women who straighten their hair, every single day. Mine is really long and thick, and I like wavy hair better, so I don't go through the effort every day. But I do applaud women who have the patience to do it.
 
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If my husband ever came out wearing make up, I would slap him silly! (Just joking - I'm not a slapper, and he would NEVER be a makeup wearer, even if he lost all the skin on his face! I can barely get him to comb his hair most days! LOL)

I am not much of a make up wearer. I wore it when I played professionally in a band, and yes, I wore high spiked heels. I had been a dancer, had good legs, and I never got tired, even after 5 hour sets. I can't fathom what it might have been doing to my feet, seeing as the damage I have now. I threw out all my high heels when I got RA, because it hurt too much. (To see them, I certainly could not wear them after the first year of so with the massive flares and deformities.) I did keep the satin pink toe slippers (as in ballet!). I wonder who once wore them?

I had wonderfully dark, brown hair with red highlights when I was young. My sister was a blond. She got the dark eyebrows and eye lashes. She would never let herself be seen in public or photographed without makeup. One day I was telling her the reason I wore eye make up, was because I had really long eyelashes, and no one could see them, because they were blond (now grey!) She accused me of stealing her eyebrows, which seemed reasonable to me! What would the genetics of that be, Galatea?

My mom has poker straight hair. My dad had a brush cut for many years. Apparently, as a child, my grandmother would not let him cut his long, curly blond locks. So a bit of an overreaction?

However, he was a university professor, and in the late 1960's, he found the students couldn't relate to him. He grew his hair out a bit, and he had a massive Afro. (Ukrainian heritage!) He became the favourite professor. Interesting how appearance really does affect how people perceive you. Anyway, to continue with Galatea's interesting genetic information, that was super curly and straight, making wavy/slightly curly hair in their three children! Thus proving Galatea's genetics. (Sorry I forgot to "reply with quotes")

Again, my sister cannot be seen without her hair perfect - straightened and dyed, now that it is grey!).

So, I wore makeup playing in bars, the least I can do is show up in church with makeup on? I have nice blue eyes, and they just look so much better when you can see the eyelashes. That is my excuse, and I am sticking to it!

PS. I have never really worn lipstick. I lick my lips a lot, because I have a dry mouth issue. And you really can't wear anything on your lips when you are playing flute and sax. It would be a mess! Then there is the fact that my mother was never without lipstick on her lips. So a bit of rebellion, maybe on my part, too?
Lol, I'm not that well versed in genetics to be able to tell you. My knowledge ends pretty much in simple Punnett squares. :)

The story about your Dad reminds me of something my great grandmother told me once. She was the oldest and had a beautiful baby brother with naturally curly, black hair. Her mother let it grow in ringlets and my great grandmother cried when her baby brother was six and they cut off his curls in order to send him to school.

I personally like make up, it's something girly that belongs only to us (although, increasingly more men are wearing it :().
 

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Speaking of hair... most of all my ten siblings and I had curly hair, and when we were babies, the classic curl on the top of the head. When I was three I was hospitalized to have my tonsils removed at the same time as my next oldest sister, who was five. Convalescing meant sleeping on the couch in the living room and getting to eat ice cream. Horror of horrors: at one point I awoke to discover that somebody had cut the curl off the top off my head! That was more traumatizing than going to the hospital to be operated on, and nobody owned up to doing the dirty deed :p:(:p
 
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Question for men - why don't you wear make up?
Cause... we ain't gay, that's why

You know what God said about men being effeminate right?
Ain't no way to go man... that eternal fire gonna be hot and permanent!
 

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I have garlic chive out back. It flowers. It's a very pretty flower, like Queen Anne Lace in petite. But it smells like what it is -- a type of onion grass with raw garlic smell (and taste.) You say you like flowers? Would you like those flowers?

I do, but I have to do something before bringing them in. I have to wave off the flies on them and then wash off the dead flies that got stuck in-between the tiny little flowers. (And I can't wash them all off. Flies really like garlic chive.)

My reason why I used to wear makeup. I'd rather the guy be looking at me than the big honking zit at the end of my nose, on my chin, or forehead. (Worse yet, when there were two zits, instead of merely one.
:eek:)

Now, please tell me you wouldn't be wondering what that black stuff was inside those pretty white flowers, if you saw a vase of them. (The dead flies.) And tell me you wouldn't be spending quite a bit of time trying to figure that out instead of looking at the flowers themselves.

Then tell me you'd actually want to rub a woman's face with a big honking zit on it.

Yeah, really. I'd rather a guy notice me then the dead flies/zits on me.

(Now I'm old enough not to have zits and I am a happy camper to have thrown out the makeup. BUT I truly get why women wear makeup, and don't get why guys don't sometimes.)
You dwelt on zits that people around you probably didn't notice, but you thought they were looking at them. When you know a flaw you believe it is the first thing people see about you.

I can't count the number of times a woman has started complaining about some aspect of her appearance that, until she started complaining about it, I hadn't even noticed.
 
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You dwelt on zits that people around you probably didn't notice, but you thought they were looking at them. When you know a flaw you believe it is the first thing people see about you.

I can't count the number of times a woman has started complaining about some aspect of her appearance that, until she started complaining about it, I hadn't even noticed.
I was the "before" face for an acne product as a teen. Only in my 20's did they go down to merely everyday zits. "Honking zit" meant something. lol
 
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Miri

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I just can't imagine myself being that desperate, and, let me tell you, I, me, she, has had
some pretty un-ordinary, desperate situations come-up in my life, both of us really) and always,
'un-expected'!

i had really crooked-teeth until my early twenties when I got braces...real white, but real crooked-they
turned-out amazing, but they're mostly 'gone' NOW, (partials) are holding me together there in that
particular spot!:eek:so that I can eat in a somewhat comfortable manner...TYJ!!!:)

most of ya'll reading probably won't believe what's 'just down the road-a-piece'...:rolleyes:
this kind of deception of wanting to change yourself into what this 'fallen-world's description of
acceptability is, well, guess what? ,
hub and me, most would consider us 'last/least-in-line-now, oh yeah, the younger 'Christians too' -
we just don't give a flitter for the 'world', we only care what our Saviour, Jesus Christ thinks/approves of
as we daily live our lives for Him.

but, it surely wasn't an easy thing to do, we have to learn how to 'let-go-and-believe-trust-live-in
Jesus Christ's Reality The One Who truly Loves-us and has claimed us as His own.
after 'conversion', we discover, by and by, that we 'truely only belong to Him', mostly through
the actions that we are asked/obligated/Commanded to do for Him because of the Love that
we have for His Holy Sacrifice...
His future for us is so Lovingly, un-imaginably, layed out-before-us, confirmed by His Holy Word...
Reminds me of the following I heard:-

Your teeth are like stars - they come out at night
Your ears are like flowers - cauliflowers
Your hair is like the sea - the Dead Sea
You have a face like a million dollars - all green and crinkly
:p

Then there is the other saying - brain cells come and go but fat cells live forever!


Its true we spend so much time and effort on things which later become unimportant.
My brother who isn't a Christian, said to me a while back, that true wealth is your health.

He was half right, true wealth is knowing Gods's salvation and experiencing good spiritual health.
Its the only thing built to last.
 
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Miri

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Speaking of hair... most of all my ten siblings and I had curly hair, and when we were babies, the classic curl on the top of the head. When I was three I was hospitalized to have my tonsils removed at the same time as my next oldest sister, who was five. Convalescing meant sleeping on the couch in the living room and getting to eat ice cream. Horror of horrors: at one point I awoke to discover that somebody had cut the curl off the top off my head! That was more traumatizing than going to the hospital to be operated on, and nobody owned up to doing the dirty deed :p:(:p
Aw - I had a similar experience. About age 6 I fell over and banged my elbow very hard.
So I was taken to hospital for an X-ray. Just days earlier my lovely long hair had been cut
short, I think there was an outbreak of nits at school so my aunt cut my hair as a
precaution. I could sit on it before it was cut very short.

Anyway I was walking along the hospital corridor when we saw a man carrying a crying
toddler. He said, look that little boy over there isn't crying - pointing at me :mad:

I was so upset I told my aunt she was never cutting my hair ever again! I complained
more about that than the pain in my elbow!
 
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Miri

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I was the "before" face for an acne product as a teen. Only in my 20's did they go down to merely everyday zits. "Honking zit" meant something. lol

Zits just become age spots and wrinkles. Lol
 
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Reminds me of the following I heard:-

Your teeth are like stars - they come out at night
Your ears are like flowers - cauliflowers
Your hair is like the sea - the Dead Sea
You have a face like a million dollars - all green and crinkly
:p

Then there is the other saying - brain cells come and go but fat cells live forever!


Its true we spend so much time and effort on things which later become unimportant.
My brother who isn't a Christian, said to me a while back, that true wealth is your health.

He was half right, true wealth is knowing Gods's salvation and experiencing good spiritual health.
Its the only thing built to last.