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Are you sensing the Holy Spirit preparing you for Jesus' imminent return, but still managing not to be anxious (for anything)? As you read the headlines every day, instead of being frightened by the evil encroaching on our government in the United States, are you praying & standing up for Jesus more than ever before? Do you think we as Christians will be increasingly persecuted by the next president? Just some food for thought.... :)
 

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I believe that Christians will be increasingly persecuted by the US government regardless of who the next president is. According to Revelation there has to be quite a few things that must take place before the return of Jesus. Even so, not even Jesus knows the day or the hour of His return, only the heavenly Father.

There isn't much that frightens me. I stand up for Jesus but for the most part I'm just trying to live my life the best that I can in a way that is pleasing to God.

I don't spend a lot of time reading headlines but do believe that this country is in a downward spiral.
 
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I believe that Christians will be increasingly persecuted by the US government regardless of who the next president is. According to Revelation there has to be quite a few things that must take place before the return of Jesus. Even so, not even Jesus knows the day or the hour of His return, only the heavenly Father.
I certainly agree with you there. Matthew 24:4-14 cuts right to the chase, when it comes to what to be expecting to see right before Jesus returns. One thing I am particularly noting lately is the amazing increase in earthquakes & volcanoes all over the world, in just the past few months. Alot of people I hear are wondering, is Yellowstone next? Hmmm.
 

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I certainly agree with you there. Matthew 24:4-14 cuts right to the chase, when it comes to what to be expecting to see right before Jesus returns. One thing I am particularly noting lately is the amazing increase in earthquakes & volcanoes all over the world, in just the past few months. Alot of people I hear are wondering, is Yellowstone next? Hmmm.
It does say in the bible that one of the signs to look for in the end times is that there will be in increase of earthquakes in diverse places. Regarding Yellowstone, there is the threat of a volcanic eruption, one that would have a devastating environmental impact far surpassing any previous volcanic eruptions.
 

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I don't have a stance on the rapture or Jesus coming back but I will say that a storm is coming the likes of which this world has never seen nothing will ever be the same and people will look back on these days like a fond memory but their hearts aching because they know things can never be the same again. I don't know when or how this storm is going to come and happen I only know what I was shown, regardless of when Jesus returns we must have a hearts prepared for any scenario be that the pre mid or post rapture belief.
 
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It does say in the bible that one of the signs to look for in the end times is that there will be in increase of earthquakes in diverse places. Regarding Yellowstone, there is the threat of a volcanic eruption, one that would have a devastating environmental impact far surpassing any previous volcanic eruptions.
I've been thinking that too, & how the timing of that event will play out. The death toll in the United States would be devastating, & the question remains will followers of Jesus Christ still be here, when it happens?
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Are you sensing the Holy Spirit preparing you for Jesus' imminent return...
I'm sensing being prepared for some heart burn as I eat this pizza right before going to sleep.
 

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I believe that Christians will be increasingly persecuted by the US government regardless of who the next president is. According to Revelation there has to be quite a few things that must take place before the return of Jesus. Even so, not even Jesus knows the day or the hour of His return, only the heavenly Father.

There isn't much that frightens me. I stand up for Jesus but for the most part I'm just trying to live my life the best that I can in a way that is pleasing to God.

I don't spend a lot of time reading headlines but do believe that this country is in a downward spiral.
Hello tourist,

Actually, there is nothing that needs to take place before Christ appears to gather the church. However, there is an awful lot of events that must take place before He can return to the earth to end the age, namely, the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, which will be in fulfillment God's wrath. As far as the apostasy, which must take place prior the church being gathered, I believe that this has been taking place for some time, which is why we have so much opposition/division within the church regarding the word of God and it will continue to get worse.
 

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Persecution will increase....not simply because of the "next President" though......or the "next Congress." Persecution starts on the Streets and Avenues of "every town" USA. And pretty much, every place in the world.

The more the Church bows to the oppressors, the greater the persecution will increase.

Suggested reading would be the 12th Chapter of Romans, and the 6th Chapter of Ephesians.
 
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Are you sensing the Holy Spirit preparing you for Jesus' imminent return, but still managing not to be anxious (for anything)? As you read the headlines every day, instead of being frightened by the evil encroaching on our government in the United States, are you praying & standing up for Jesus more than ever before? Do you think we as Christians will be increasingly persecuted by the next president? Just some food for thought.... :)
What do headlines have to do with if I'm praying or standing up? What makes you think Jesus' return is imminent? What does "imminent" even mean to Christians, since that line has been used for 175 years now?

If the only reason you're following Jesus is because of what's happening in the world today, then you aren't following. You're running away from some vague "the world."

They frightened me with that line of manure back when I was young. I'm 60. I got over it. Especially since we're Americans and think "persecution" means someone is laughing at us over our views of abortion. Really? I was bullied better than that back in seventh grade. I've NEVER been persecuted!

Don't waste your life thinking eschatology is the gospel. It's not.
 
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I certainly agree with you there. Matthew 24:4-14 cuts right to the chase, when it comes to what to be expecting to see right before Jesus returns. One thing I am particularly noting lately is the amazing increase in earthquakes & volcanoes all over the world, in just the past few months. Alot of people I hear are wondering, is Yellowstone next? Hmmm.
No, Matt 24:4-14 already happened. That was for believers who really were being persecuted. It's also for believers today who are being persecuted. It's not for Americans, because we aren't being persecuted. We're just being picked off by this very same message you now preach -- a false message aimed at getting us diverted from following Christ right into merely running away from "the world," as if that's even possible. You're so interested the "the signs" you don't notice that's just normal life. "The beginning of birth pains" is not "It's a boy."

Fear-mongering and melodrama is NOT the gospel.
 
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No, Matt 24:4-14 already happened. That was for believers who really were being persecuted. It's also for believers today who are being persecuted. It's not for Americans, because we aren't being persecuted. We're just being picked off by this very same message you now preach -- a false message aimed at getting us diverted from following Christ right into merely running away from "the world," as if that's even possible. You're so interested the "the signs" you don't notice that's just normal life. "The beginning of birth pains" is not "It's a boy."

Fear-mongering and melodrama is NOT the gospel.
Thanks for your input. However it is my personal view that all the signs today are pointing to Jesus' imminent return. Sorry if you don't agree. We as Christians are to ALWAYS be looking up & preparing our spirits for the return of Christ, just like in Matthew 25's parable of the 10 virgins. And I think we should respect one another's POV's here, without getting snarky.
 
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Thanks for your input. However it is my personal view that all the signs today are pointing to Jesus' imminent return. Sorry if you don't agree. We as Christians are to ALWAYS be looking up & preparing our spirits for the return of Christ, just like in Matthew 25's parable of the 10 virgins. And I think we should respect one another's POV's here, without getting snarky.
So you're going with "my truth is my truth, even if it's not truth?"

Well, okay then. Imminent it is. Just don't be surprised if 40 years from now it's STILL imminent.
 
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So you're going with "my truth is my truth, even if it's not truth?"


Maybe you didn't understand what I said. I'm ready for Jesus' return at ANY time . The Bible warns Christians in every generation to be the same. But this one in particular has seen many more signs come to pass than previous ones. No need to be snippy... I guess there is still the same reactions on this Christian chat site as Facebook... always someone trying to start an argument... smh
 
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What do headlines have to do with if I'm praying or standing up? What makes you think Jesus' return is imminent? What does "imminent" even mean to Christians, since that line has been used for 175 years now?

If the only reason you're following Jesus is because of what's happening in the world today, then you aren't following. You're running away from some vague "the world."

They frightened me with that line of manure back when I was young. I'm 60. I got over it. Especially since we're Americans and think "persecution" means someone is laughing at us over our views of abortion. Really? I was bullied better than that back in seventh grade. I've NEVER been persecuted!

Don't waste your life thinking eschatology is the gospel. It's not.
Really good points. Tried to rep you, but... :\
 

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And you are speaking as a NON Christian , as I saw by your profile...? Not surprised by your perspective if you agree with Depleted, or judging from your previous comment on this thread.
Are you saying that depleted is being non Christian? I can vouch that she is very much Christians she sometimes doesn't respond in the best manner but she means well in the end. I don't know if or when Jesus will return but depleted does have a point as do you, for all we know Jesus may not come back for us for over 60 years or more in fact maybe we won't see him in this life time but at the same time if we do not have our hearts prepared then when he comes like a thief in the night we will regret it.

Believe me more than anything more than all the treasure and honor all the glory or anything he would ever give me in heaven I want to be with him I need him I desire to have him to be with him to have a love with him far deeper and far more beautiful than we ever thought possible even death sometimes seems like a blessing just to be with him however I sadly cannot say that the rapture or him coming back is going to happen any day now. Immanent and soon these words described by so many concerning Jesus return for us but time is so different to him compared to us what is soon or immanent to him may be 80 years or it may be within 2 seconds the point is to be prepared and not say to ourselves he isn't coming and that we should not have our hearts prepared.

Debating this issue is an endless and pointless debate and I know from experience much of it in the end only God can reveal the truth to us and debating about who is right about it does no one any good. Instead we should seek him out all the more always having a hungry and endearing heart with an ever growing love and desire for him this is what is truly most important
 
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Are you saying that depleted is being non Christian?
No, I was directing my question at Siberian Khatru, who's profile says he is NON Christian. I was not arguing with Depleted tho she certainly did not respect my POV but sounded like it had no validity. To which I object, and don't appreciate being berated when my perspective is as good as Depleted or anyone else's. Just sayin.
 
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And you are speaking as a NON Christian , as I saw by your profile...? Not surprised by your perspective if you agree with Depleted, or judging from your previous comment on this thread.
And what is "my perspective?"