Sleeping together?
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Part of the problem is the media promoting this open lifestyle of random sex with anyone....and dissing virginity like it's some disease....aka the movie 40 y.o. virgin which I have never watched btw, but people told me back when it came out it was awesome so I read up on the story and it's all about a 40yo dude being pressured by his friends to lose his virginity.....
This is what they use to shape the minds of individuals into thinking virginity is outdated/laughed at....
This is what they use to shape the minds of individuals into thinking virginity is outdated/laughed at....
T
Lol, I had to laugh at your comment 
You're right the whole point of sex is to reproduce/make a baby.....and then people are like wuh? wuh? happened? condoms and birth control are no 100% effective all the time lol....
You're right the whole point of sex is to reproduce/make a baby.....and then people are like wuh? wuh? happened? condoms and birth control are no 100% effective all the time lol....
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As an old fart, I have gone through many unexpected pregnancies with other people in my age group. Yes, that might be different than a couple of kids getting too carried away in the back seat of a Chevy, but the result is the same........ A sudden responsibility that is fraught with all sorts of undesired complications, even if the resulting child is loved like crazy. In either case, at least two lives are turned topsy-turvy.
T
I still remember the time when I was about five-years-old and met someone who was talking about one time when she was stuck in an airport with her brother and their parents and she had to share a hotel bed with her brother...As a child, I was horrified that they would be "sleeping together" since as I understood it, that was only something married couples were supposed to do...
Well, really! (and Corbin, that last post sounded like I was annoyed with your comment or mad at you, which is not the case at all! You'd have to do a lot more than that to get me riled ).
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M
Here are some examples which came to mind.
Unsaved man/woman live together for several years, share bills, buy house have kids.
Then they get saved but they either can't afford to get married or the penny does not drop
immediately. What should the church do, tell them they are not saved until they get married.
Tell them one should move out breaking up the family unit and causing deeper financial
problems. It's a toughey. I've actually seen this played out in my church and I can tell you
it all worked out in the end, with patience, teaching, love and understanding they decided
to get married and the church chipped in to help out.
Christian friend of mine, had a daughter who was 19, very much loved but not a Christian. Her
boyfriend had some disabilities and had many problems with his own alcoholic mother. In the
end the boyfriends mother throw him out with nothing except the clothes he was wearing.
Problem problem - what should my Christian friend do, she knows her daughter and boyfriend
are already sleeping together. Both are still fairly young and he has nowhere to go.
She (and her husband) allowed him to stay at their house and got a lot of stick for it
from some other people in the church. Fast forward 7 years both the daughter and boyfriend
are now married, both are Christians, they have a house of there own have some beautiful
little girls who are being brought up in a Christian environment.
Unsaved unmarried man/woman live together as in the first scenario. One becomes a Christian
and wants to get married. The other is not a Christian and does not want to get married but
they both love each other and don't want to split up so they continue as they are. What should
the church do? Well prayer comes to mind for the unsaved person - I suppose though they could
just make the saved person feel so bad for not being married that they leave the church and
stop believing in God.
There are loads of examples of different tricky situations.
Then there are the unchurched undiscipled Christians who get together and
blatantly go against God's word. Some even meet each other via church.
I have met only a few like this, usually it is the foolishness of youth or just maybe
they were not Christians in the first place. There are many non Christians who attend
churches.
Thankfully I go to a church which does practice discipleship, new babes in
Christ flourish, it gives good solid teaching. It does not leave new Christians to flounder.
It also practices church discipline, though thankfully it is rare this has been necessary.
I honestly think that if a church has a specific problem in this area , especially the last
example. They have to look at themselves and what they are teaching, how they are
going about teaching and instructing on biblical truths.
By far a big factor are the number of people who think they are Christians just because
they live in a Christian country, or just because they were baptised as babies. Or just
because they believe in God. I would have thought that would cover a large percentage of
the population of the US. I also covers a reasonable number of the population of the U.K.
Unsaved man/woman live together for several years, share bills, buy house have kids.
Then they get saved but they either can't afford to get married or the penny does not drop
immediately. What should the church do, tell them they are not saved until they get married.
Tell them one should move out breaking up the family unit and causing deeper financial
problems. It's a toughey. I've actually seen this played out in my church and I can tell you
it all worked out in the end, with patience, teaching, love and understanding they decided
to get married and the church chipped in to help out.
Christian friend of mine, had a daughter who was 19, very much loved but not a Christian. Her
boyfriend had some disabilities and had many problems with his own alcoholic mother. In the
end the boyfriends mother throw him out with nothing except the clothes he was wearing.
Problem problem - what should my Christian friend do, she knows her daughter and boyfriend
are already sleeping together. Both are still fairly young and he has nowhere to go.
She (and her husband) allowed him to stay at their house and got a lot of stick for it
from some other people in the church. Fast forward 7 years both the daughter and boyfriend
are now married, both are Christians, they have a house of there own have some beautiful
little girls who are being brought up in a Christian environment.
Unsaved unmarried man/woman live together as in the first scenario. One becomes a Christian
and wants to get married. The other is not a Christian and does not want to get married but
they both love each other and don't want to split up so they continue as they are. What should
the church do? Well prayer comes to mind for the unsaved person - I suppose though they could
just make the saved person feel so bad for not being married that they leave the church and
stop believing in God.
There are loads of examples of different tricky situations.
Then there are the unchurched undiscipled Christians who get together and
blatantly go against God's word. Some even meet each other via church.
I have met only a few like this, usually it is the foolishness of youth or just maybe
they were not Christians in the first place. There are many non Christians who attend
churches.
Thankfully I go to a church which does practice discipleship, new babes in
Christ flourish, it gives good solid teaching. It does not leave new Christians to flounder.
It also practices church discipline, though thankfully it is rare this has been necessary.
I honestly think that if a church has a specific problem in this area , especially the last
example. They have to look at themselves and what they are teaching, how they are
going about teaching and instructing on biblical truths.
By far a big factor are the number of people who think they are Christians just because
they live in a Christian country, or just because they were baptised as babies. Or just
because they believe in God. I would have thought that would cover a large percentage of
the population of the US. I also covers a reasonable number of the population of the U.K.