The Death Penalty

You're either not reading my posts before you reply to them, not comprehending what I am telling you, or simply choosing to ignore the facts given this reply of yours.

What part of the murderers are causing a lot more murders after being locked up for life in prison by people that think like you is not sinking in?

She wasn't a murderer who was sentenced to life in prison for murder who then murdered again in prison to join a prison gang (e.g. blood in blood out) which gave them control over their hometown's streetgangs and the "authority" (in the criminal underworld) to order many more murders outside of prison walls including murder for hire.

She was just someone being accused, rightly or wrongly, of the sin of adultry. How many more people do you think she was going to murder if she was wasn't killed seeing how she hadn't murdered any whatsoever?

So if they had dragged a gang member out of town for execution Jesus would have said "let 'im have it"?

The reason why there is no record of Jesus ever intervening in the government execution of a murderer is because the Mosaic Law very strongly supported the death penalty in the case of murder and Jesus never once disobeyed the law or taught against it.

Likewise, Paul recognized the justice of the death penalty. When he was brought before the judgment seat of Festus, he said, “For if I be an offender, or have committed any thing worthy of death, I refuse not to die” (Acts 25:11). By this, Paul admitted that there were offenses worthy of death and that the government had the right to administer death in those cases.

He further states in Romans that “But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil” (Romans 13:4).

The Bible doesn't condone the present situation where murderers are housed for life in expensive institutions that innocent citizens are forcibly taxed to pay for who then cause many more murders and create an institutionalized prison gang run environment that prevents most real reform from occurring.

How you guys ever got the idea that it does is beyond me.

Scripture teaches that a murderer can both repent and be saved by God but also executed by the state for the crime of murder. There is no dichotomy.

I have a hard time imagining Jesus condoning anyone's murder, I believe He'd tell the sorry sob that he deserved to die, then tell the crowd ok the one of you who doesn't, pitch in first. Not really standing in the way but...

But you're right, Paul does recognize and condone it. Honestly I do too, I sometimes throw things out just for sake of discussion. Personally, the only thing I see wrong with the death penalty is that we don't enforce it. We coddle them evil humans with all we have in resource and law. They have the rights and privileges, not us.

That which was right shall be wrong, and the wrong shall be right. Tic toc tic toc

RickyZ,
The law is for the lawbreaker.
The woman caught in the act of adultery was a special case.
Why? Because one one she was adulterating with wasn't brought with her.
Do you think taking an innocent life is acceptable.....in any society?
The laws are meant to keep people who would otherwise break them from doing so.
Because of the penalties.
Do you know what the God's law was for those who stole?
They had to pay it back....+ extra.
How did they do that?
By either giving three to seven times,(I don't remember exactly); what they stole to the one who they stole from OR,..... working it off.
How did they work it off?
They became hired hands for the one they stole from, until the debt was paid.
No lazy person thieved under the law of God; because they knew they would have to work it off -
(over what they stole if they were caught).
See how God's laws for municipalities protect the innocent?
God's law for shedding innocent blood was death.
If a person accidentally killed someone through the coarse of their business day(manslaughter), they had any of six cities to
flee to. - To escape wrath. Then the elders would hear the case to see if it was accidental or not.
If it was, they had to live in that city until the year of jubalee - (shadows of Christ's significance all over this).
See how precious human lives are to God?
See how even if it was a mistake, the taking of an innocent life(made in His image), was sacrosanct to Him?
It's not human government's job to show mercy to the guilty. If that is done people will be killing each other over the drop
of a hat. (Oh.....in America they already are). Because they get room and board and three squares a day for it!

Jesus was the most amazing person that ever walked the face of this earth. That's a fact. But He was NOT some soft effeminate codependent guy with a martyr complex.

Just the opposite. He was intelligent and and educated to the point of giftedness yes but people today tend to forget that he was also physically strong working wood and stone with his hands and that he came from a tough area known to produce rebel zealots (e.g. the Sicarii [knife wielders] under Judah of Galilee). He was also a natural born leader.

Also, the massive fortune that's being spent on keeping murderers alive to commit more murder and prevent reform in our prison "system" is not remaining in innocent people's pockets to help them nor going to help society. It's morally wrong to rob innocent people of so much money to support a system that spawns more violence while preventing reform.

Did you guys know that if the whole jury doesn't agree someone is guilty, they get off the hook even if they are? They are just let free to go kill someone else. Grrr..............