The falling away 2nd THESS chpt 2

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SARAH ... IM working alot this week ( of hours ) chat time, ready ..... If I throw a unrepentent Murderers Pride parade, with murderers carrying signs and talking about how Proud they are, you would say they are soooo proud of their sin, If I threw a thiefs Pride parade, with thieves running around stealing and looting, and again the whole purpose of their parade is they are Proud of their evil sin...... get it Pride parade?? It is only a matter of time before ( if THE LORD JESUS CHRIST TARRIES ) before they have Abortion Pride parades, please read this .... and see if where Im going makes sense yet.... or if you need me to go back and go further into why they cannot or will not repent. Please read this then respond w u can. Again Im working crazy 10 to 7 night shifts so respond w u can.
 
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Also if youd like this ties into the strong delusion, and falling away of the church.... this is all linked together.
 
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SARAH ... IM working alot this week ( of hours ) chat time, ready ..... If I throw a unrepentent Murderers Pride parade, with murderers carrying signs and talking about how Proud they are, you would say they are soooo proud of their sin, If I threw a thiefs Pride parade, with thieves running around stealing and looting, and again the whole purpose of their parade is they are Proud of their evil sin...... get it Pride parade?? It is only a matter of time before ( if THE LORD JESUS CHRIST TARRIES ) before they have Abortion Pride parades, please read this .... and see if where Im going makes sense yet.... or if you need me to go back and go further into why they cannot or will not repent. Please read this then respond w u can. Again Im working crazy 10 to 7 night shifts so respond w u can.

I do agree with what your saying on the gay pride only to a point. There are many who are involved with the parades and festivals,but there are also many more who don't. Generally speaking the gay population is figured at about 4%,last year at the "pride fest" near me less then 1% of the population showed up. (So it means less then 1 in 4 of the gay population showed up,and that leaves out that many who showed up are themselves not gay but are just showing support for the gay population) To say that all are filled with pride is not correct and then when one does that,it is a lie, and one is bearing false witness against a neighbor.

The problem comes when one is looking at it from the outside. Preaching to them that being gay is wrong won't work to well,because of the way they think for the most part. If one is gay the thinking often is "I am born that way,why is that wrong,and if it's not wrong to be this way why do I need to repent of something I was born with?" Add to that you have pastors telling them it is OK to be that way. We spend way to much time trying to get them to "reform themselves" by focusing too much on the one sin and not the whole person. How often do we see them through our Father's eyes? Do we see them as being loved by Him? Do we tell them that God loved them so much that He sent Jesus to set them free from this bondage? Do we tell them that it's not just because of the homosexuality that they are separated from God for all eternity even without that? Do we tell them that through Jesus they can become a new creation? What I have found from having to deal with some of the same issues I can talk to them about the fact that we were or still are liars,we have hurt others because we did not deal with this the right way from the start. We have ruined boy friends,girl friends and spouses lives and if one has children how much did that hurt them also? I will never say we are innocents by any stretch of the imagination nor should anyone else,but they also need to hear how much Jesus loved them too. There is no one so far away that God can not reach them,with but one exception and that is because of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
 
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The Bible agrees that sodomites were a proud and haughty people in EZEKIEL 16 verses 49 and 50. It lists they were proud ( arrogant ) and in verse 50 it says it again they are haughty. They are glorified and worshipped in our evil society.
 
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If you say they were born this way, then I say woe to you, if that is what you believe then you just proved that you dont believe the Bible, and your calling GOD a liar ( ROM 3 verse 10, and PROV 13 verse 13 )You are saying GOD lied and did not make them Man and Woman, Your saying HE made a mistake and you are in danger ( REV 22 verses 18 and 19 ) GOD is not a liar. The 501c3 pastors signed a contract with the government and they cant be critical of sodomites. SARAH hear me, you need to come out of the LGBT community ( 2nd CORINTH 6 verses 14 to 17 ) You feeling shame is good, leave SODOM, before GOD sends you strong delusion, and you will believe a lie ( like your born gay ) and you will be damned because you hated the truth ( GODS word ... the KJ Bible )
 
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Ezekiel 16

[SUP]49 [/SUP]Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.[SUP]50 [/SUP]And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

It is in reference to the city of Sodom,it's in the PAST tense,not present. Again the term sodomites is never used in the New Testament at all and is only used 4 times in the old testament and only in reference to those who lived in Sodom in the KJV.

Again you are painting all with a very broad brush that is not true of all.
 
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SARAH .......... GOD wants you to leave SODOM. If you believe gays were born gay then you have 100 percent rejected the Holy Bible, The Bible says who GOD loveth he also chasteneth, and if ye be without chastizment ye are bastards. If you are chastened and feel shame then thats good, when your not chastened for sin ( being a sodomite ) then the Bible says your a bastard and not saved at all. You need to hear this because the 501c3 luke warm, false prophet, hireling pastors lied to you, because they loved money ( PROV 11 verse 28 ) and according to the guidelines of the contract that they signed they cant say sodomy is an abomination. I am reaching out to you in love, has no one else spoken to you this way? They dont fear GOD and are evil and dont want to tell you the truth. One way or another youll remember this conversation, and whether your in heaven or hell, youll know I tried to warn you and I told you the truth. LOVE your friend ....
 
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If you say they were born this way, then I say woe to you, if that is what you believe then you just proved that you dont believe the Bible, and your calling GOD a liar ( ROM 3 verse 10, and PROV 13 verse 13 )You are saying GOD lied and did not make them Man and Woman, Your saying HE made a mistake and you are in danger ( REV 22 verses 18 and 19 ) GOD is not a liar. The 501c3 pastors signed a contract with the government and they cant be critical of sodomites. SARAH hear me, you need to come out of the LGBT community ( 2nd CORINTH 6 verses 14 to 17 ) You feeling shame is good, leave SODOM, before GOD sends you strong delusion, and you will believe a lie ( like your born gay ) and you will be damned because you hated the truth ( GODS word ... the KJ Bible )
Now you are assuming that I am a lesbian. Again you have not read any of my others posts were I did say God made them man and women. (The only exception would be those dealing with interssex issues. Jesus Himself points to that when He says there are those who are born eunuchs) I have never said they are born that way. (You assumed that) And even in the cases of those born with an interssexed condition I have never said that God made a mistake. The world is broken and under a curse. How wide and deep that is not one of us can say.

Did I not say that God has me there because I am to preach to them the gospel. Jesus came to set them free also. Didn't Jesus come to set the captives free? And if no one goes and speaks to them then how will they know that. Do you understand the bondage they are in? Do you even have a clue? I have been there and I can understand it far better then you ever will. I know the power of Jesus name that He can break the bonds,and heal them of this. I know of His love for them,but not of their sin. Are you saying that God can not save them? Are you saying He is really that feeble that He can't save them?
 
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SARAH .......... GOD wants you to leave SODOM. If you believe gays were born gay then you have 100 percent rejected the Holy Bible, The Bible says who GOD loveth he also chasteneth, and if ye be without chastizment ye are bastards. If you are chastened and feel shame then thats good, when your not chastened for sin ( being a sodomite ) then the Bible says your a bastard and not saved at all. You need to hear this because the 501c3 luke warm, false prophet, hireling pastors lied to you, because they loved money ( PROV 11 verse 28 ) and according to the guidelines of the contract that they signed they cant say sodomy is an abomination. I am reaching out to you in love, has no one else spoken to you this way? They dont fear GOD and are evil and dont want to tell you the truth. One way or another youll remember this conversation, and whether your in heaven or hell, youll know I tried to warn you and I told you the truth. LOVE your friend ....
Do you have any idea how far the Lord has brought me along? Do you realize that the Lord has brought me so far I am no longer tempted by these things? Of course the Lord has spanked me so to speak. I am His and the Holy Spirit testifies to that. Are you even reading what I am saying?
 
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Im saying you need to come out from among them and be ye separate saith the lord, get out of SODOM before GOD destroys it. Please re read the postings above, and pray about it. I prayed about it and am telling you to leave the LGBT world, community, befoe its too late and your destroyed with it. Please re read the posts I sent you above, then pray about it.
 
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Im going to pray for you..... I have to go, oh and yes I read all your posts twice to digest w your saying. Gotta go for now, I work nights and Ill b back to finish our talk. LOVE your friend in CHRIST
 
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Just so you are aware of it,those I speak to are online not in person. I don't go into the gay bars,hang around the gay pride events or anything like that. I am not a part of that at all. I live in a smaller semi rural area. Most of the people I hang around with are the seniors from my mom's Bible study. (And they are conservative,Bible believing men and women) I am to be in the world but not of it.
 
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KJV, have you read any of Sarah's posts? She clearly mention these things.
 
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Yes, the KJV isn't my preferred version. I think it's out-dated and difficult to understand (the archaic words used, not the message). I prefer modern translations. But I don't hate the KJV. What I do dislike greatly is the belief some have that the KJV is the only true version of God's Word and that all other versions are a perversion of God's Truth. Some even say the KJV is truer than the Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic originals!
The KJV is my preferred version.

However - there is no way I am going to believe that it is more correct than the origial texts!

Nonetheless - I do believe it is still the best English version available - even / especially today!

The following post in another thread explains - in part - why I believe this:

What people don't understand about the KJV is that it will NEVER be "out-dated"...

The above referenced post does not even include the perversion issue.

Based on what I have seen so far - I believe that ALL of the modern versions are corrupted / perverted to some degree (some more than others). Many of the errors (in the NIV, for example) - I have compared to the KJV myself and have determined that they are in error.

And - YES - I consider the KJV the best, if not only, version available that can "stand up to the test" of being a true and correct 'standard' worthy of being compared to.

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GRA, yes, you've made that perfectly clear in your thread. Also, the KJV isn't timeless in that the language used back then changed dramatically. God's word should be approachable. Having a Bible that is Shakespearean in it's writing style, isn't going to do most people any favours. We live in a very different world, where language has evolved greatly. And that's no trick of Satan, it's just what happens.
 
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Judge a Bible by its fruit. The people who read the KJV are usually the most knowledgeable and know the most scripture. The NIV is such a joke that I cant take anyone seriously who reads it. I believe that part of the strong delusion is these perverted Bible versions, and also its clear that most people who call themselves christian are already under GODS strong delusion because they have rejected the word of GOD ( KJV ) and the symptoms are that they are pro gay and gay marriage, and will never recognize the Anti christ because there too dumbed down and politically correct that they will worship the beast. Im concerned for the American christian. I believe GODS judgement is here in the form of a evil leader who with the backing of ROME ( he has it ) will reveal himself as Satans child. This is strong meat.
 
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Hmm... As I've posted elsewhere:

From early childhood I was raised on the Good News Bible, then later, the New International Version. I understand and believe the basic tenants of the Christian faith. My faith hasn't been perverted because I didn't/don't use the KJV. And to suggest that I'm not a true Christian because of this (KJV-onlyists, I'm looking at you) isn't only poor form and rude but incredibly self-righteous. I don't want to be any part of that. Besides, the KJV, while a valid Bible, was also commissioned by a King, so some things were added that weren't there in the original texts. The Dead Sea Scroll additions fixed some of that.
 
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KJV are you ready to continue our talk?