The Gun Thread

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Tinuviel

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"If you don't pack something that doesn't start with a 4, you're either a woman or shouldn't be carrying at all."

Those guys...
Ok, not normally feminist but this got my dander up! lol
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Ok, not normally feminist but this got my dander up! lol
No need to get your dander up. It's just a saying, and a dumb one at that. Just chalk it up to insecure men trying to feign that they are secure by accusing other men of being lesser men. For some reason, accusing a man of acting like a woman is something to get a man's goat.

Loads and loads of sayings out there are like that.
 
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Tinuviel

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No need to get your dander up. It's just a saying, and a dumb one at that. Just chalk it up to insecure men trying to feign that they are secure by accusing other men of being lesser men. For some reason, accusing a man of acting like a woman is something to get a man's goat.

Loads and loads of sayings out there are like that.
After a moment of reflection, I realized it was a completely irrational feeling. All's well :).
 

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"If you don't pack something that doesn't start with a 4, you're either a woman or shouldn't be carrying at all."

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Well its silly to try and carry the dirty Harry .44 mag for concealment.

And its equally silly to bring a small .32 pistol to a grizzly fight...


The 9mm is a good middle of the road round but still I wouldn't bring it to a grizzly fight unless it was all I had....

There are so many calibers out there I don't think I would be tied down to just one, or just those above 40....
 

shittim

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it's a tool, what job do we want to do with it?
 
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"... something that starts with a 4.."

Does that mean .40 or .44? Shouldn't things that start with a 3 be enough? Especially if they are hollow point?
 

shittim

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i think it is a machismo thing when we all know a hit with a 22 is better than a miss with a 45.
placement, placement, placement.
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Desdichado

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"Yeah. If it's a .308 or .30-06, bucko."- compensating gunshop dude

"... something that starts with a 4.."

Does that mean .40 or .44? Shouldn't things that start with a 3 be enough? Especially if they are hollow point?
 

Desdichado

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Agreed. You wouldn't try and fell a tree with a sword.

Well its silly to try and carry the dirty Harry .44 mag for concealment.

And its equally silly to bring a small .32 pistol to a grizzly fight...


The 9mm is a good middle of the road round but still I wouldn't bring it to a grizzly fight unless it was all I had....

There are so many calibers out there I don't think I would be tied down to just one, or just those above 40....
 

Desdichado

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That quote was made to sound obnoxious. Glad it worked.

Someone did call me a chick for carrying a 9 once though. I just smiled, shook, my head, and took it out on a paper target.


Ok, not normally feminist but this got my dander up! lol
 
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I have nothing against things that start with 4, but my wallet really loves things that start with 2.... 100 rounds for $8.99. Of course I won't be using them for hunting (if/when I ever buy a gun...)
 
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Desdichado

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Someone told me that .22 rifle rounds retain their value REALLY well. Best round to stock up on even if you don't have something to shoot them with.

.223 too, I guess. I mean there are so many more AR-15 owners now than there was just a few short years ago. I'd buy low and sell high later if I had the disposable income to do that kinda thing.

I have nothing against things that start with 4, but my wallet really loves things that start with 2.... 100 rounds for $8.99. Of course I won't be using them for hunting (if/when I ever buy a gun...)
 
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Someone told me that .22 rifle rounds retain their value REALLY well. Best round to stock up on even if you don't have something to shoot them with.

.223 too, I guess. I mean there are so many more AR-15 owners now than there was just a few short years ago. I'd buy low and sell high later if I had the disposable income to do that kinda thing.
Good point! I hear they are often out of stock in many places because ammo's so expensive now.
 

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No shortages of .223 ammo around here at all. .22 rimfire is making a pretty strong comeback, as well. It's usually available for around .08 per round...

The .357 magnum has been proven to be just about the best "stopping" cartridge ever, when loaded with 125gr HP bullets... this data was collected from actual police/LE shootings back in the 80's or so. It beat out the .45 ACP, the .44 Mag.... ALL of them.

The big drawback is the horrific muzzle blast and flash that goes along with it. Shoot one in low-light conditions, and you are temporarily blinded for a few minutes.... shoot one out of a 4" barrel without hearing protection, and you'll need to go home and take some Tylenol and rest for a few hours.. then go get fitted for your new hearing aid... :eek: ask me how I know....

This is a pic of Massad Ayoob firing one in low-light....

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Desdichado

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It looks like a flamethrower! <3 Ayoob btw.

I've never fired a .357, but I've heard that it's a tough round to get follow-up shots with because it kicks like a canon.

That and it's significantly louder, so you have a greater chance of hearing loss. Not that that should be your first concern when you're assailed by a punk, terrorist, or vicious animal.

No shortages of .223 ammo around here at all. .22 rimfire is making a pretty strong comeback, as well. It's usually available for around .08 per round...

The .357 magnum has been proven to be just about the best "stopping" cartridge ever, when loaded with 125gr HP bullets... this data was collected from actual police/LE shootings back in the 80's or so. It beat out the .45 ACP, the .44 Mag.... ALL of them.

The big drawback is the horrific muzzle blast and flash that goes along with it. Shoot one in low-light conditions, and you are temporarily blinded for a few minutes.... shoot one out of a 4" barrel without hearing protection, and you'll need to go home and take some Tylenol and rest for a few hours.. then go get fitted for your new hearing aid... :eek: ask me how I know....

This is a pic of Massad Ayoob firing one in low-light....

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Desdichado

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Amen. I think a lot of anti-gun rhetoric is disassociation from reality.

Steven Crowder had a good extended rant yesterday about how people who say you're less of a man for carrying a gun have never been in a real fight.

Likewise, people who swear by calling the police have no idea what it's like when milliseconds count.