The Gun Thread
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I have a 12 ga Topper that I bought as a cut down "truck gun".... just barely long enough to be legal. The buttstock had been cut off just behind the pistol grip area, so shooting it from the shoulder is not really a viable option.
It's more a two-hand, shoot from the hip kind of thing.... and is not too punishing in that role.
One day while shooting it, I decided I needed to "test" it, firing it one handed (like one would have to do, if firing it out a truck window?
) I started with some quail loads... not too bad. I then shot a heavier, pheasant type load... now that was beginning to have some "thump" on my end. My mistake was wanting more.... I shot a 00 Buck load out of it. I thought it had literally broken my middle finger... the one behind the trigger guard.
One handed, with buckshot, will be a last-ditch, life or death kind of thing from now on.... with death being a close second...
Two handed, from the hip, buckshot is ok, because your arms act as shock absorbers, slowing down the recoil before it hurts you.... but it takes a very firm grip with the forward hand on the forend.
It's more a two-hand, shoot from the hip kind of thing.... and is not too punishing in that role.
One day while shooting it, I decided I needed to "test" it, firing it one handed (like one would have to do, if firing it out a truck window?
) I started with some quail loads... not too bad. I then shot a heavier, pheasant type load... now that was beginning to have some "thump" on my end. My mistake was wanting more.... I shot a 00 Buck load out of it. I thought it had literally broken my middle finger... the one behind the trigger guard. One handed, with buckshot, will be a last-ditch, life or death kind of thing from now on.... with death being a close second...
Two handed, from the hip, buckshot is ok, because your arms act as shock absorbers, slowing down the recoil before it hurts you.... but it takes a very firm grip with the forward hand on the forend.
I have heard the stories. I was not there. I would probably not judge too harshly what anyone had to do to survive. However -- for whatever cases that may have been true -- I hardly think there was ever a reason - or, that it was involuntary - to rape...
Unless someone puts a gun to your head and says:
"Rape that woman / girl or die!"
I would probably have to consider "taking the bullet"...
Unless I was so thoroughly convinced that doing so would somehow save her life or prevent her from being severly tortured or something like that --- I just don't imagine that there is ever really a good enough reason to do something like that...
Unless someone puts a gun to your head and says:
"Rape that woman / girl or die!"
I would probably have to consider "taking the bullet"...
Unless I was so thoroughly convinced that doing so would somehow save her life or prevent her from being severly tortured or something like that --- I just don't imagine that there is ever really a good enough reason to do something like that...
Just try to imagine being forced to go to war, to fight in jungles, for something you didn't understand. But you had to do your job...being told you were fighting "for your country"... only to come home to your own countrymen spitting on you and calling you vile names... all of this after the severe emotional trauma of war, seeing your brothers being blown apart, and having them die in your arms.
It was, and still is, shameful.
I've reloaded both, and don't find any significant differences. They are ballistic twins, with the 06 having a slight edge when loading bullets over 180gr or so...more case capacity.
Which you pay for by having to use a "long" action, instead of a short action rifle. Not a huge deal to me, but some folks think it makes a difference.
Which you pay for by having to use a "long" action, instead of a short action rifle. Not a huge deal to me, but some folks think it makes a difference.
Yes... the 338 would be good for loooong range hunting/sniping. Downside... heavier recoil, quite a bit more expensive, very difficult to find factory ammo (in out of the way places)
30-06 is a classic, do-everything round. Great for everything but perhaps the big bears, and it will work on them, if necessary. Downside... long action versus short action.. about 3/4" difference, max.
308... ballistic twin to the '06, can be chambered in a short action rifle, has been regularly used in 1000yd target matches, as has the 30-06. Very likely the easiest to find ammo for, but probably tied by the '06. Nearly everyplace sells 30-06, 270, 243, 308 ammo. Cheapest to shoot, especially if using surplus ammo.
30-06 is a classic, do-everything round. Great for everything but perhaps the big bears, and it will work on them, if necessary. Downside... long action versus short action.. about 3/4" difference, max.
308... ballistic twin to the '06, can be chambered in a short action rifle, has been regularly used in 1000yd target matches, as has the 30-06. Very likely the easiest to find ammo for, but probably tied by the '06. Nearly everyplace sells 30-06, 270, 243, 308 ammo. Cheapest to shoot, especially if using surplus ammo.
Gun Priorities:
1. Finish up my pistols.
New sights for my Glock
New appendix holster for my PPS M2
Replace my old defensive ammo with Speer Gold Dot when it's on sale
2. Gun Safe
3. Shore up home defense with a long gun that won't entirely kill my hearing.
If the HPA goes through-
Get a suppressor
Value AR-15
MORE 5.56
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If the HPA doesn't go through-
Home defense shotgun
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4. A designated, hard-hitting hunting rifle.
5. Glock 40 MOS because it's awesome and totally score me points with Top Gun Tori Nonaka.
5. As much as I want to say "done" I know that whenever I reach this state of bliss, it won't be over. Historical firearms with no practical purpose will beckon.
1. Finish up my pistols.
New sights for my Glock
New appendix holster for my PPS M2
Replace my old defensive ammo with Speer Gold Dot when it's on sale
2. Gun Safe
3. Shore up home defense with a long gun that won't entirely kill my hearing.
If the HPA goes through-
Get a suppressor
Value AR-15
MORE 5.56
Light attachment
Light
If the HPA doesn't go through-
Home defense shotgun
Light attachment
Light
4. A designated, hard-hitting hunting rifle.
5. Glock 40 MOS because it's awesome and totally score me points with Top Gun Tori Nonaka.
5. As much as I want to say "done" I know that whenever I reach this state of bliss, it won't be over. Historical firearms with no practical purpose will beckon.
