The Ukraine Thread

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I don't trust the media.
Interesting. The main stream media have an agenda: to inform. Once they fail in this agenda, they will lose the purpose of their of being, shed viewers and advertisers, and eventually run out of resources,

Best wishes, 2RM.
 
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JohnDB

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If you the stomach for a risky investment, and some cash you don't mind losing, it would appear Sberbank might be worth a small investment.

Best wishes, 2RM.
No...
They will have to re-issue yet another Ruble again.

It's all Fiat currency... worthless. It's like points during a Scrabble game or Monopoly Money. Once it's game over still not worth much.

But since all shipping to and from Russia is stopping...it's going to be a difficult year.

There's a news story about how the Oligarchs in Russia have left the country....that's not exactly true. They are all headed to their summer homes to raise groceries there in gardens. That's the normal thing for this time of year. It's spring planting. The families that have the two homes do this every year.

There's so much propaganda it's really really bad.
 

Lanolin

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But theres also some good fiction like this from 2005. The audiobook version was really funny.

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Lanolin

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I read this one too last year but wasnt as funny. Also failed to mention that, Maori and British actually did have land wars over where they could grow their potatoes. The finest land in the country got confiscated by the British and they turned it into dairy farms in the Waikato.

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Lanolin

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Moral of the story

Tomorrow...is another day!

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Lanolin

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Guns or Butter?

ok thats all I have to say.
 

LoveBrokeThru

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There's so much propaganda it's really really bad.
The same MEDIA, that is anointing Zelensky as an angelic being, holy, and without sin...., also said for 4 yrs that Trump was a Russian Spy.
ITs the same media, in both cases.

Its interesting to note that only a few years ago this same Putin, and this same Russian Army, went into the Crimea, and the world kept on going just fine, didnt it?
But this time, .... the Media decided to see if they can start : WW3.
They are doing their 24/7 best.

I'll tell you a fact, Reader.
Had the Media not enflamed the world's emotions, that first 7 days of "invasion"...., with a lot false videos, and endless propaganda, and Zelensky's face on every screen, everyday... ..the Russian army would have gone into Kyev by the 4th day, and Zelensky would be removed, .. and a brand new (non Jew and Russian hating leader), would have been installed.

Instead, the media took this situation and flamed it into the idea of a "world war", , which it should never become, yet, they have tried their best to make you believe you are in one.
But you know, the last time i checked my Geography map......the "Ukraine" is not the entire world.
And had the Media just reported it, vs, trying to keep establishing it as "Putin vs the rest of the planet",.. then this situation would have ended 10 days ago,, and none of this carnage that you have seen, would have happened.

Is Putin a devil?
Sure.
He's horrible and the world would be better off if he was not living on it.
Is Zelensky a person who has stated that his philosophy for the best Ukraine is : a "purified Ukraine".
He did indeed.
Hitler said the same about the entire world, while he was feeding Jews into hot ovens.
Zelensky wants the Ukraine and The Crimea......"Purified" of what? = Jews and Russians.

Something else the MEDIA has not told you, is that Putin tried for a while to get Zelensky to stop killing Russians in a place in the Ukraine called Donbas.
Zelensky would not stop., and His goal, other than a "purified" Ukraine, was to get the Crimea back.
Putin got tired of asking Him, and you see the result.
Currently Zelensky is trying to get the entire world to fight the Russians for Him so that he can stay in power and get rid of Jews and Russians.
Crazy huh?
Yet, the media will not tell you this......as they are too busy trying to get the world into a war with Putin.
And reader, the Crimea was Russian, before it became Ukrainian....So, it just returned to Russia, it was not "taken", or "confiscated".
Right now......The People in the Crimea are praying that Putin gets rid of Zelensky.......and the NEWS MEDIA is not going to tell you that.
So, this entire situation over there, is a MEDIA DRIVEN CHAOS.

I'll tell you another true fact.
The Media will get you killed......just so they can report it for ratings, and just so they can use their power to control the mind of the world by using lies on a SCREEN..... to create what they want to have happen, and nothing about that, is Good for this World, or for Christianity.
 

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It got my attention when I found out George Soros was for the Ukrainians.
When has he ever been for anyone or anything that was for anyone but him?
 

LoveBrokeThru

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It got my attention when I found out George Soros was for the Ukrainians.
When has he ever been for anyone or anything that was for anyone but him?
Its a wild video playing out as reality, when you watch a jew and russian hating, ZELENSKY, ... train the USA SENATE to be his War Machine.
Its, really surreal, to watch them be programmed by this cunning liar.

Let me tell you why im "up on it"
Its because im Married to someone who was born in the Crimea, and Her parents and grandparents were born there..
They had to FLEE the Ukraine, in 1998, because of Government ABUSE.
We now live in Israel, but, im also a USA Citizen, so, right now im in the USA watching this horse and pony show, being directed worldwide by a lying media and this person named ZELENSKY.

When i first realized this was all a gigantic farce, was the 3-4th day of the "invasion".

It was reported by ZELENSKY to the WORLD NEWS, that "Russia bombed a TV station and destroyed a Jewish Holocaust memorial"

Do you remember that?
Well, that is a LIE.
Listen..the NEWS MEDIA reported it to the world as TRUTH, so that it demonized Putin, in the eyes of Jews, and the world at large.
This type of created propaganda has not stopped since that day, and that story.

A Ukrainian-Jewish NEWS REPORTER< went to this "destroyed by Putin's rockets", "Holocaust museum", and walked around it, filming it.
There were no rockets, no damage.....its BRAND NEW..........not harmed..........= it was all Zelenky's LIE, and the NEWS MEDIA made it real in the minds of the entire planet.

Here is another one.
A few days ago, you heard, read, watched this story......"A news reporter. (Brit or USA), i dont recall, was murdered by Putin's Soldiers.
The story said.....>"a car pulled up to the reporter and shots from inside the car, killed him".

Well, HELLO......... i was not aware that Putin's ARMY came in their CARS.
Did they bring them in the TANKS?
Did they bring their BMW's and their Hondas, and their FORDS, and their Chevrolets?

So, what happened was........a Ukrainian CAR filled with Ukrainian solders, who would have cars, killed this reporter and blame PUTIN's Soldiers.

Eventually the NEWs MEDIA will be telling you that Putin is drinking blood and eating aborted babies, while Zelensky was last seen walking on water underneath his HALO.
 

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What is next?

Well, lets look at a situation.

Its true that Zelensky is running the world directly into his war with Putin, using the Media, or is it they who are doing it.
Its both.

BUT, here is the bigger picture.

Is Putin designing all this, for something bigger.. ?????

A.) of course.

Now, If you are an end times study person, then you are familiar with Gog and Magog.
This is Russia.
And right now, you might have noticed that there is an absence of Russian Air FORCE, in this Ukraine "world war".
Why?
Its because Putin's Air Force, is in Syria and Lebanon, as He has taken this area over...... recently.
This has happened.
And what is the border of these 2 countries?
Its ISRAEL.....reader.
And who is bringing in Missiles to this area ? = IRAN
See that?
That is Putin's end game, not the Ukraine.
That is GOD's end game......not the Ukraine conflict.
The Ukraine is just "world bait"....... that is potentially going to start a larger conflict, worldwide, that then brings everything to the border of Israel, where everything is going to play out according to God's Planbook.

What you need to do, is keep your eyes on THAT, while you look to the SKY, as your Redeemer is about to take home His BRIDE.
 

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Its a wild video playing out as reality, when you watch a jew and russian hating, ZELENSKY, ... train the USA SENATE to be his War Machine.
Its, really surreal, to watch them be programmed by this cunning liar.

Let me tell you why im "up on it"
Its because im Married to someone who was born in the Crimea, and Her parents and grandparents were born there..
They had to FLEE the Ukraine, in 1998, because of Government ABUSE.
We now live in Israel, but, im also a USA Citizen, so, right now im in the USA watching this horse and pony show, being directed worldwide by a lying media and this person named ZELENSKY.

When i first realized this was all a gigantic farce, was the 3-4th day of the "invasion".

It was reported by ZELENSKY to the WORLD NEWS, that "Russia bombed a TV station and destroyed a Jewish Holocaust memorial"

Do you remember that?
Well, that is a LIE.
Listen..the NEWS MEDIA reported it to the world as TRUTH, so that it demonized Putin, in the eyes of Jews, and the world at large.
This type of created propaganda has not stopped since that day, and that story.

A Ukrainian-Jewish NEWS REPORTER< went to this "destroyed by Putin's rockets", "Holocaust museum", and walked around it, filming it.
There were no rockets, no damage.....its BRAND NEW..........not harmed..........= it was all Zelenky's LIE, and the NEWS MEDIA made it real in the minds of the entire planet.

Here is another one.
A few days ago, you heard, read, watched this story......"A news reporter. (Brit or USA), i dont recall, was murdered by Putin's Soldiers.
The story said.....>"a car pulled up to the reporter and shots from inside the car, killed him".

Well, HELLO......... i was not aware that Putin's ARMY came in their CARS.
Did they bring them in the TANKS?
Did they bring their BMW's and their Hondas, and their FORDS, and their Chevrolets?

So, what happened was........a Ukrainian CAR filled with Ukrainian solders, who would have cars, killed this reporter and blame PUTIN's Soldiers.

Eventually the NEWs MEDIA will be telling you that Putin is drinking blood and eating aborted babies, while Zelensky was last seen walking on water underneath his HALO.

the last thing that the media wants to do is inform you.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
www.youtube.com
Its a wild video playing out as reality, when you watch a jew and russian hating, ZELENSKY, ... train the USA SENATE to be his War Machine.
Its, really surreal, to watch them be programmed by this cunning liar.

Let me tell you why im "up on it"
Its because im Married to someone who was born in the Crimea, and Her parents and grandparents were born there..
They had to FLEE the Ukraine, in 1998, because of Government ABUSE.
We now live in Israel, but, im also a USA Citizen, so, right now im in the USA watching this horse and pony show, being directed worldwide by a lying media and this person named ZELENSKY.

When i first realized this was all a gigantic farce, was the 3-4th day of the "invasion".

It was reported by ZELENSKY to the WORLD NEWS, that "Russia bombed a TV station and destroyed a Jewish Holocaust memorial"

Do you remember that?
Well, that is a LIE.
Listen..the NEWS MEDIA reported it to the world as TRUTH, so that it demonized Putin, in the eyes of Jews, and the world at large.
This type of created propaganda has not stopped since that day, and that story.

A Ukrainian-Jewish NEWS REPORTER< went to this "destroyed by Putin's rockets", "Holocaust museum", and walked around it, filming it.
There were no rockets, no damage.....its BRAND NEW..........not harmed..........= it was all Zelenky's LIE, and the NEWS MEDIA made it real in the minds of the entire planet.

Here is another one.
A few days ago, you heard, read, watched this story......"A news reporter. (Brit or USA), i dont recall, was murdered by Putin's Soldiers.
The story said.....>"a car pulled up to the reporter and shots from inside the car, killed him".

Well, HELLO......... i was not aware that Putin's ARMY came in their CARS.
Did they bring them in the TANKS?
Did they bring their BMW's and their Hondas, and their FORDS, and their Chevrolets?

So, what happened was........a Ukrainian CAR filled with Ukrainian solders, who would have cars, killed this reporter and blame PUTIN's Soldiers.

Eventually the NEWs MEDIA will be telling you that Putin is drinking blood and eating aborted babies, while Zelensky was last seen walking on water underneath his HALO.
I started a series of YouTube videos on the topic of "Why I do NOT stand with Ukraine." Nothing but lies from them, they want the west in this war and will do anything to get that
 

JohnDB

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OH...
I got a pretty good handle on all of this.
We have a social media war that is in direct opposition to the MSM campaign.
Zelinski, where not exactly as evil as the Russian propaganda machine would like us to believe isn't exactly an angel. He does tend to be inept at times and doesn't have the wherewithal to actually be a proactive leader capable of thwarting every petty tyrant inside of his government...But he is more honest than many of the Ukrainian leaders they have had and has been busy removing many of the corrupt leadership elements in his government. But...many nations (like the USA) have been heavily influencing the Government for decades now...it's been a favorite place for money laundering of ill gotten gains. (Same with Afghanistan and other places...Hunter Biden was involved for a reason)

However...
Russia's claims of NATO expansionism is completely absurd.
There are no nuclear weapons in Ukraine...haven't been since the fall of the USSR. NATO does hand out weaponry...but there is a huge difference between defensive weaponry and offensive weaponry. Armored vehicle denial systems don't climb out of the ground and mysteriously begin moving forward several miles. Anti-missile systems are extremely ineffective for targeting buildings. They are great at taking out missiles...but they don't do airplanes or anything but missiles.

What is in Ukraine is a lot of groceries and scientists. Yes there are bio labs there...the population is highly educated. Rocket engine technology, Microprocessor chip factories, and fertilizer factories and farming tractors and equipment. Also Uranium/Vanadium processing facilities are there.

Ukraine was once the crown jewel state in the USSR. As a result of the fall of the USSR it has left and Europe has been gaining access to the resources of the nation. (and getting much better prices than Russia was ever offering)
And that is what Putin is most after. Cheap goods that sell for much better prices than what Russia ever offered.

Look at the international telecom lines. (freely available on an internet search)
Look at the international air flights.
Look at the international shipping lines.

Russia has almost none...Ukraine is gaining mass and speed with all of these while Russia is sitting there neglected and abandoned by the world. Russia is afraid most of being left behind by the rest of the world and wants to own and broker all of the resources of Ukraine...because they have none themselves. And as Zaleski removed corrupt leaders...more and more businesses around the world found Ukrainian goods to be more convenient and quality to be purchased. Russia wants conscripts....meaning slaves

Thats what is happening...it's politics. and politics kills while destroying hope.
 

Lanolin

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I had one more thing to say actually

On the contrary: If your enemy is hungry give him something to eat, if he is thirsty give him something to drink. For in so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.
Romans 12:20

I dont know about the coals but yea. Dont antagonise an enemy when their blood sugar levels are low.
 

Nehemiah6

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Ukraine is gaining mass and speed with all of these while Russia is sitting there neglected and abandoned by the world.
And exactly whose fault is that? Putin and his oligarchs have been raping Mother Russia since 1991. That is 30 years of kleptocracy, corruption, and tyranny. Russia could have easily become the leading nation of the world had there been a real Russian leader who cared about Russia and its people.
 
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I just listened to a recent speech by Putin and whether or not he actually meant what he said (he seemed sincere), I agreed with everything he said.