Tricky situation with Harry Potter

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

santuzza

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2013
1,609
38
48
#41
Fenner, did you even read the OP's post? She tried to CONJURE a character from Harry Potter. That's a bit over the line from simple entertainment, don't you think?
 
L

lav

Guest
#42
i used to be a Christian ( totally believed in and loved Christ, did not think i was delving into anything he would be unhappy or displeased with, and was unbelievably not doing the following activities through any kind of dark motivation ) who had no qualms with Harry Potter. i was also a Christian who used tarot cards and runes and almost all forms of divination including a standard card deck. i practiced yoga and advocated and had a fascination with the kundalini serpent, used rocks and crystals and studied and utilized their metaphysical aspects, studied and had a fascination with u.f.o.'s and aliens, consulted ' intuitives ' and palm readers, studied palmistry, believed in spirit guides, did remote viewing, almost went to a hypnotist, practiced meditation and transcendental meditation, saw auras, was fascinated by metaphysics, used psychotropic drugs and marijuana ( a well known, proven form of sorcery in the occult ), used charms and good-luck items, did handwriting analysis, knew occult symbols, knew and used astrology extensively, used amulets, studied kabala and jewish mysticism, was involved in native american spiritual practices and traditions including the ' long dance, ' was rebellious and stubborn, used and studied numerology, was a massage therapist who used yin and yang principles and did polarity balancing, used a pendulum, did trance diagnosis, had acupuncture; read almost any and all books, literature, music, etc. i could find dealing with occultism; did star gazing, practiced using and opening the third eye, studied chakras, had an interest in alchemy and used animals as spirit guides. experienced astral projection and travel and had out of body experiences. studied egyptian spirituality and symbols. i thought i could explore and learn about anything and everything... any religion or spirituality, hang out with any crowd and as long as i held onto Christ and believed in him that nothing bad or undesirable would come of it. there's more...

i spent at least eight years fully immersed in these things.

i know a thing or two about the occult and a bit about what is dangerous and whether or not magic and the occult are real.

i've been exposed to demons/demonic presences and had some incredibly frightening and very real experiences with magic and the occult in both the physical and spiritual realms.

i've known both witches and warlocks. ( laugh as much as you will... )

things seemed okay at first, there didn't seem to be any immediate negative consequences or repercussions... except that i always felt attacked and as if i were being watched and followed.

it got so bad, i almost totally lost my life and my mind.
i was manipulated and controlled by very dark characters and was in serious danger.
i had constant nightmares and was heavily attacked spiritually.

i had to renounce and get rid of anything that was a connection to any of these things and some i'm sure i forgot to mention.

i even renounced and repented of all of it... but it wasn't going away. i was involved in a dangerous spiritual battle and was experiencing *intense!* spiritual warfare. beyond description.

before i actually went through all of my belongings and threw out every last item that could have any possible relation to the occult i was haunted and attacked by the dark. i mean real entities who had power over me and were attacked to contact objects i had and were sent to control and destroy my life.

crows followed and attacked me. things most would never believe happened, and it served to drive me even ' crazier. '

after that kind of thing, you start to understand that magic... ' pretend ' or real all stems from the same source.

i no longer watch harry potter.
 
Last edited:
L

lav

Guest
#43
i mean real entities who had power over me and were attacked to contact objects i had and were sent to control and destroy my life.
ugh ! spelling and grammar.

*who had power over me and were attached to contact objects.

i'm sure there's more spelling and grammar mistakes, but oh well !
 

skipp

Senior Member
Mar 6, 2014
654
7
0
#44
i used to be a Christian ( totally believed in and loved Christ, did not think i was delving into anything he would be unhappy or displeased with, and was unbelievably not doing the following activities through any kind of dark motivation ) who had no qualms with Harry Potter. i was also a Christian who used tarot cards and runes and almost all forms of divination including a standard card deck. i practiced yoga and advocated and had a fascination with the kundalini serpent, used rocks and crystals and studied and utilized their metaphysical aspects, studied and had a fascination with u.f.o.'s and aliens, consulted ' intuitives ' and palm readers, studied palmistry, believed in spirit guides, did remote viewing, almost went to a hypnotist, practiced meditation and transcendental meditation, saw auras, was fascinated by metaphysics, used psychotropic drugs and marijuana ( a well known, proven form of sorcery in the occult ), used charms and good-luck items, did handwriting analysis, knew occult symbols, knew and used astrology extensively, used amulets, studied kabala and jewish mysticism, was involved in native american spiritual practices and traditions including the ' long dance, ' was rebellious and stubborn, used and studied numerology, was a massage therapist who used yin and yang principles and did polarity balancing, used a pendulum, did trance diagnosis, had acupuncture; read almost any and all books, literature, music, etc. i could find dealing with occultism; did star gazing, practiced using and opening the third eye, studied chakras, had an interest in alchemy and used animals as spirit guides. experienced astral projection and travel and had out of body experiences. studied egyptian spirituality and symbols. i thought i could explore and learn about anything and everything... any religion or spirituality, hang out with any crowd and as long as i held onto Christ and believed in him that nothing bad or undesirable would come of it. there's more...

i spent at least eight years fully immersed in these things.

i know a thing or two about the occult and a bit about what is dangerous and whether or not magic and the occult are real.

i've been exposed to demons/demonic presences and had some incredibly frightening and very real experiences with magic and the occult in both the physical and spiritual realms.

i've known both witches and warlocks. ( laugh as much as you will... )

things seemed okay at first, there didn't seem to be any immediate negative consequences or repercussions... except that i always felt attacked and as if i were being watched and followed.

it got so bad, i almost totally lost my life and my mind.
i was manipulated and controlled by very dark characters and was in serious danger.
i had constant nightmares and was heavily attacked spiritually.

i had to renounce and get rid of anything that was a connection to any of these things and some i'm sure i forgot to mention.

i even renounced and repented of all of it... but it wasn't going away. i was involved in a dangerous spiritual battle and was experiencing *intense!* spiritual warfare. beyond description.

before i actually went through all of my belongings and threw out every last item that could have any possible relation to the occult i was haunted and attacked by the dark. i mean real entities who had power over me and were attacked to contact objects i had and were sent to control and destroy my life.

crows followed and attacked me. things most would never believe happened, and it served to drive me even ' crazier. '

after that kind of thing, you start to understand that magic... ' pretend ' or real all stems from the same source.

i no longer watch harry potter.
Your problems had to do with the fact that you were dabbling in all sorts of crazy occult pagan things and taking drugs, not because you were reading a fairy tale book for kids. I don't see how you can blame your problems on a kid's book when you were calling up spirit guides, using Tarot cards, studying witchcraft, etc. I have always hated and despised occult stuff and I have no problems with Harry Potter. Or Hans Christian Anderson. Or Tolkien. Or anybody else who has written make-believe fantasy books for kids.
 
L

lav

Guest
#45
Your problems had to do with the fact that you were dabbling in all sorts of crazy occult pagan things and taking drugs, not because you were reading a fairy tale book for kids. I don't see how you can blame your problems on a kid's book when you were calling up spirit guides, using Tarot cards, studying witchcraft, etc. I have always hated and despised occult stuff and I have no problems with Harry Potter. Or Hans Christian Anderson. Or Tolkien. Or anybody else who has written make-believe fantasy books for kids.

i didn't blame the problems i had on harry potter. you missed the point entirely.

they also aren't my problems anymore, i've been forgiven by and covered with the blood of Jesus Christ.

i also forfeited watching seindfeld to type that whole thing out, so i won't be bothered by a response by someone who has no idea what they're talking about.
 
Last edited:

skipp

Senior Member
Mar 6, 2014
654
7
0
#46
i didn't blame the problems i had on harry potter. you missed the point entirely.

they also aren't my problems anymore, i've been forgiven by and covered with the blood of Jesus Christ.

i also forfeited watching seindfeld to type that whole thing out, so i won't be bothered by a response by someone who has no idea what they're talking about.
I'm sorry I missed the point of your post. I apologize for that and take back what I said in my own post. I didn't mean to offend. Sometimes I don't watch what I say carefully enough.
 
L

lav

Guest
#47
I'm sorry I missed the point of your post. I apologize for that and take back what I said in my own post. I didn't mean to offend. Sometimes I don't watch what I say carefully enough.
awh, thanks. i'm sorry if i was defensive... just been through a lot. was really nice of you to say that. i apologize too. i have to admit that i often don't watch or proofread what i say carefully enough, myself.

so many mistakes in the order/sequence and organization of what i was saying, including grammar and spelling... drives me nuts, haha.

also sorry if i was unclear in what i was trying to communicate.

<3
 
Last edited:
J

jael

Guest
#48
A "new Christian,"....What makes for a new Christian?---trouble girl???? Did you say a prayer? or did someone tell to to repeat these words and then you prayed? 1-One BIG question. I've read through every one's posts thus far. Whether you are a Christian or not you have opened the door wide open into the realms of the demonic. I do not doubt that you have had quite a variety of experiences-much of what many others have no idea whatsoever that such things can and do occur, and this may well include many Pastors; however, the question remains how much do you want KING Jesus as opposed to a door still opened for the demonic to walk through to you when they so chose? Just because for a time, you are not bothered as much, or thinking as much, or exactly in the same way, as you did about various characters, does not mean that things are "getting better" or that they are not bothering with you as much. In fact demons, have had many thousands of years to study humans, and to develop ways to seduce, confuse, and deceive people: they are quite expert at this....I would urge you to houseclean away all stuff connected to any and all occultic things you dabbled in-and this includes Potter stuff. Its not that all fantasy, fairy tales, and like stuff cannot be enjoyed as entertainment, but you have an attachment and demons have used this and you have invited them in through this stuff.They don't take kindly to leaving easily...The demonic is totally dedicated to the utter and absolute destruction of all humankind and Everything that God loves and created. Warfare is no little thing, when dealing with leaving the occult and it is nothing to make light of either. I have found that a goodly number of Pastors have little idea of just what all can and does and is possible to occur--in one leaving the occult, at least in American Churches, yet the Pastor who said ditch the stuff I believe in this case is correct. I speak from experience: my grandfather was a satanist, and I was raised with a 'mixture," of occultic and some Christian beliefs. I am all too well acquainted with such horrors as the warfare of leaving the occult. If not for the LORD's amazing Grace, Mercy and outright rescue(S) I'd be in hell long ago. Please flee away, plead the precious blood of Jesus over yourself, repent of your sins in this, ask for forgiveness, renounce all connections and desire for the occult and all that you wanted, want still, were involved with, seek out that Pastor and other women who will regularly meet with you and pray with and over you. Dear trouble girl, Jesus wants His wandering sheep girl safe and secure in His arms only. Jael.
 

troubledgirl

Senior Member
Jun 25, 2014
167
0
0
#49
A "new Christian,"....What makes for a new Christian?---trouble girl???? Did you say a prayer? or did someone tell to to repeat these words and then you prayed? 1-One BIG question. I've read through every one's posts thus far. Whether you are a Christian or not you have opened the door wide open into the realms of the demonic. I do not doubt that you have had quite a variety of experiences-much of what many others have no idea whatsoever that such things can and do occur, and this may well include many Pastors; however, the question remains how much do you want KING Jesus as opposed to a door still opened for the demonic to walk through to you when they so chose? Just because for a time, you are not bothered as much, or thinking as much, or exactly in the same way, as you did about various characters, does not mean that things are "getting better" or that they are not bothering with you as much. In fact demons, have had many thousands of years to study humans, and to develop ways to seduce, confuse, and deceive people: they are quite expert at this....I would urge you to houseclean away all stuff connected to any and all occultic things you dabbled in-and this includes Potter stuff. Its not that all fantasy, fairy tales, and like stuff cannot be enjoyed as entertainment, but you have an attachment and demons have used this and you have invited them in through this stuff.They don't take kindly to leaving easily...The demonic is totally dedicated to the utter and absolute destruction of all humankind and Everything that God loves and created. Warfare is no little thing, when dealing with leaving the occult and it is nothing to make light of either. I have found that a goodly number of Pastors have little idea of just what all can and does and is possible to occur--in one leaving the occult, at least in American Churches, yet the Pastor who said ditch the stuff I believe in this case is correct. I speak from experience: my grandfather was a satanist, and I was raised with a 'mixture," of occultic and some Christian beliefs. I am all too well acquainted with such horrors as the warfare of leaving the occult. If not for the LORD's amazing Grace, Mercy and outright rescue(S) I'd be in hell long ago. Please flee away, plead the precious blood of Jesus over yourself, repent of your sins in this, ask for forgiveness, renounce all connections and desire for the occult and all that you wanted, want still, were involved with, seek out that Pastor and other women who will regularly meet with you and pray with and over you. Dear trouble girl, Jesus wants His wandering sheep girl safe and secure in His arms only. Jael.
Oh, but I threw away all my occult stuff and nowdays I can sense just 2-5% demonic presence. And yes, I became a born again Christian in April 2014.
 
L

lav

Guest
#50
Oh, but I threw away all my occult stuff and nowdays I can sense just 2-5% demonic presence. And yes, I became a born again Christian in April 2014.

so what's up with allowing the 2-5% to hang around ?
 
J

jael

Guest
#51
Both in the OT and in the New the LORD speaks of destroying all items connected with any and all false religions. I ended up burning quite a lot of stuff in metal garbage cans and as my "housecleaning" came towards the end, the LORD plainly spoke to me and told me then -that I had been practicing-idolatry--of which then I had no idea whatsoever that , that was exactly what I use doing. So blind was I then--I had no idea.. Flee, please, little sister from these things. Jael
 
T

Tintin

Guest
#52
Maybe we should let this thread die. And all of troubledgirl's other threads. She doesn't listen to godly reason, so why bother?
 
J

JustAnotherUser

Guest
#53
Maybe we should let this thread die. And all of troubledgirl's other threads. She doesn't listen to godly reason, so why bother?
I agree about letting the threads die. I've been guilty on feeding them (and technically I am now). What ever the case truly is then it needs to be resolved elsewhere and whether or not she is trolling. Private messaging would be good if anyone intends to give further help to her.
 

troubledgirl

Senior Member
Jun 25, 2014
167
0
0
#54
so what's up with allowing the 2-5% to hang around ?
I don't want them to be here but it feels like they are not coming from the Potter stuff... Soon a pastor will probably bless my home and then we'll see if the demons are completely gone.
 

troubledgirl

Senior Member
Jun 25, 2014
167
0
0
#55
Are you people sure I am having demons still? Because I am really thinking that these demons are just my disturbing hallucinations from my meds... Something tells me that they are just disturbing hallucinations...
 

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,920
9,669
113
#56
Are you people sure I am having demons still? Because I am really thinking that these demons are just my disturbing hallucinations from my meds... Something tells me that they are just disturbing hallucinations...
After visiting your site at NorseSlytherin95 (Pauline) on deviantART, and looking and reading all of the occultish material there, I'm more convinced than ever that what you are experiencing is demonic!! On that page, you say you're writing Harry Potter books, which include resurrecting Sevurus Snape, and you talk about demonic attacks and sex topics!! You're very far into the dark side and that is a dangerous place to be. Stop writing about demons and trying to conjure up demons in your writings. Oh and btw, the ONLY person that was EVER resurrected, is JESUS. You cant resurrect a demon, you can only conjure them. And with all the attention you're giving them, it's no wonder that they are attaching themselves to you.
 

troubledgirl

Senior Member
Jun 25, 2014
167
0
0
#57
After visiting your site at NorseSlytherin95 (Pauline) on deviantART, and looking and reading all of the occultish material there, I'm more convinced than ever that what you are experiencing is demonic!! On that page, you say you're writing Harry Potter books, which include resurrecting Sevurus Snape, and you talk about demonic attacks and sex topics!! You're very far into the dark side and that is a dangerous place to be. Stop writing about demons and trying to conjure up demons in your writings. Oh and btw, the ONLY person that was EVER resurrected, is JESUS. You cant resurrect a demon, you can only conjure them. And with all the attention you're giving them, it's no wonder that they are attaching themselves to you.
Umm, those are old stuff... And oh my goodness, why did you have to expose my deviantART account here? O_O

And wait a second. That Severus Snape I am talking about on deviantART is not the demon Severus Snape. It's the legitimate Severus Snape character. And Severus Snape the character is NOT a demon, he is a wizard.
 
Last edited:

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,920
9,669
113
#58
Maybe we should let this thread die. And all of troubledgirl's other threads. She doesn't listen to godly reason, so why bother?
Tintin, I agree with you and justanotheruser. These threads need to die. The difference between troubledgirl, and lav and christianperson91 who say they also have seen Harry Potter/been into the occult is that THEY can distinguish between fantasy and reality. Troubledgirl clearly can not. They know enough to listen to advice when its offered, she does'nt because she does'nt want to. What I saw and read on her site at deviantart.com convinces me that she virtually lives in fantasy land 24-7-365.

​Lord, I'm turning troubledgirl over to you. You are the ONLY one who can help her now. Please touch her and make her realize how wrong this all is. Draw her ever closer to you. In Jesus name, amen.
 
P

pastac

Guest
#59
Whew like a boxing match! Finally someone gets knocked out!!! Thank goodness.
 

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,920
9,669
113
#60
Umm, those are old stuff... And oh my goodness, why did you have to expose my deviantART account here? O_O

And wait a second. That Severus Snape I am talking about on deviantART is not the demon Severus Snape. It's the legitimate Severus Snape character. And Severus Snape the character is NOT a demon, he is a wizard.
There are no "legitimate" characters!! The definition of legitimate means "true", "real" or "authentic". The Harry Potter characters are not legitimate. And by the way, another chatter gave me your deviantART site, which they said they got from one of your posts somewhere. If you dont want people checking it out, maybe you should'nt have put it up for all to see.