Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circles?

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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl

LOLOLOL stillman.
:cool:

you never quit.
one day you'll see.

(John Paul Jackson is a shape shifter....i read it at the Icke forum)
Oh my goodness..another one of my "influencers" was on the helicopter ...

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ok..Ahab out...

toodles..

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danschance

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UMMM My question was directed towards Maggie because she was listing things like rebellion,etc which again the Bible does call sin. Please show me anywhere in the Bible there are demons called homosexuality,lust,greed,overeating,yelling at the TV because Brett Favre lost another game,etc etc.

UMM Perhaps God didn't list their names because it's unimportant because our focus is to be on Him and not demons?
I can't say why God did not include some details in the bible. The bible in some topics seems to be vague. For example the bible never mentions what age to baptise. Does that imply it is not important? I don't think so.
 
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Question: "What is the Jezebel spirit?"

Answer:
There is a variety of opinions about what constitutes a Jezebel spirit, everything from sexual looseness in a woman to the teaching of false doctrine—by a man or a woman. The Bible does not mention a Jezebel spirit, although it has plenty to say about Jezebel herself.

Jezebel’s story is found in 1 and 2 Kings. She was the daughter of Ethbaal, king of Tyre/Sidon and priest of the cult of Baal, a cruel, sensuous and revolting false god whose worship involved sexual degradation and lewdness. Ahab, king of Israel, married Jezebel and led the nation into Baal worship (1 Kings 16:31). Ahab and Jezebel’s reign over Israel is one of the saddest chapters in the history of God’s people.

There are two incidents in the life of Jezebel which characterize her and may define what is meant by the Jezebel spirit. One trait is her obsessive passion for domineering and controlling others, especially in the spiritual realm. When she became queen, she began a relentless campaign to rid Israel of all evidences of Jehovah worship. She ordered the extermination of all the prophets of the Lord (1 Kings 18:4, 13) and replaced their altars with those of Baal. Her strongest enemy was Elijah, who demanded a contest on Mount Carmel between the powers of Israel’s God and the powers of Jezebel and the priests of Baal (1 Kings 18). Of course, Jehovah won, but despite hearing of the miraculous powers of Jehovah, Jezebel refused to repent and swore on her gods that she would pursue Elijah relentlessly and take his life. Her stubborn refusal to see and submit to the power of the living God would lead her to a hideous end (2 Kings 9:29-37).

The second incident involves a righteous man named Naboth who refused to sell to Ahab land adjoining the palace, rightly declaring that to sell his inheritance would be against the Lord’s command (1 Kings 21:3; Leviticus 25:23). While Ahab sulked and fumed on his bed, Jezebel taunted and ridiculed him for his weakness, then proceeded to have the innocent Naboth framed and stoned to death. Naboth’s sons were also stoned to death, so there would be no heirs, and the land would revert to the possession of the king. Such a single-minded determination to have one’s way, no matter who is destroyed in the process, is a characteristic of the Jezebel spirit.

So infamous was Jezebel’s sexual immorality and idol worship that the Lord Jesus Himself refers to her in a warning to the church at Thyatira (Revelation 2:18-29). Most likely referring to a woman in the church who influenced it the same way Jezebel influenced Israel into idolatry and sexual immorality, Jesus declares to the Thyatirans that she is not to be tolerated. Whoever this woman was, like Jezebel, she refused to repent of her immorality and her false teaching, and her fate was sealed. The Lord Jesus cast her onto a sick bed, along with those who committed idolatry with her. The end for those who succumb to a Jezebel spirit is always death and destruction, both in the physical and the spiritual sense.

Perhaps the best way to define the Jezebel spirit is to say it characterizes anyone who acts in the same manner as Jezebel did, engaging in immorality, idolatry, false teaching and unrepentant sin. To go beyond that is to engage in conjecture and can possibly lead to false accusations and divisiveness within the body of Christ.

Recommended Resources: Bible Answers for Almost all Your Questions by Elmer Towns.

While he is not the author of every article on GotQuestions.org, for citation purposes, you may reference our CEO, S. Michael Houdmann.
Just thought this was applicable to the thread. Jezebel was never a believer in God. Jezebel was not a teacher of scripture but a false teacher that lead people away from God and into sexual immorality and spiritual idolatry. The "Jezebel spirit" can be applicable to either a man or a woman. (not that I take much stock in anything found on the internet. . .this did line up with the word)

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I can't say why God did not include some details in the bible. The bible in some topics seems to be vague. For example the bible never mentions what age to baptise. Does that imply it is not important? I don't think so.

UMM What does what age someone is baptized have to do with God not telling us demons names? It is not important for us to know their names.
 
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danschance

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UMM What does what age someone is baptized have to do with God not telling us demons names? It is not important for us to know their names.
That is an example of how the bible can be vague on some topics but few would ever claim that the topics the bible is vague on are not important.
 

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That is an example of how the bible can be vague on some topics but few would ever claim that the topics the bible is vague on are not important.
the Bible is not vague on playing prophet or playing with demons.
God send lying spirits...did you know that?
He sends delusion.
He sends stupor, and blindness.

this other thing is witchcraft at worst....babytalk nonsense at best.
get real
 

zone

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Mark 6:7 (KJV)
7 And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;

oh no, we MUST insert ourselves into the Gospels and Acts.

they're weren't SPECIAL.:rolleyes:

we can do everything they did.
but we can't prove it.
 
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Good morning to you all. Why am I not able to get into the other sites:Is some one limiting my access? OR is my PC have a fit, sick, need the dr..? So. In the Providence of God, I am here,OK, with a new wife and a great ministry. WHY, such a terible life for me,a good christian, OK, I am a control freak, I am so dumb. with this thing. I am a stone age man,I guess!? The Jezebel spirit destroyed my family. I tried to teach my children God's ways, one daugther would cry, rebell, my wife would tell me to quit, hurting the child, so world war 3 started in my family. fast forward 40 yrs. In the end, my wife died young,2007. my son turned homo. , and yrs later he was killed in an acc, at work , Rochester N.Y. 2009, He was saved by CPR, is alive but totally disabled today. My oldest boy never married , was once engaged to a Chinese lady, but her father forbade the marriage, that son has never married, I think it is the Jezabel S he fears All of 4 children will not allow me in their homes today..such tragedy! WHY? My 2 daughters married Have 2 kids and 1kid . their husbands despise me for talking of spiritual maters and contending for the faith. my one daughter and wife started it all. So you know, I hate Jezebels. I forbid my wife to preach or teach men. She ia a licensed C&MA pastora. I was defrocked by the C&MA in N.Y.. I hate second blessing preaching, The "crisis sanct." experience of the C&MA is of the DEVIL, most deeper life movements are of the Devil , all the discipleship teaching today, separated from the new birth experience is of the Devil. Jerry Falwel's sal. and discipleship was of the Devil., Jack wyrtzen's sal. and discipleship program was/is of the Devil. BUT, God, is using these false teachers to save His elect, I am one of God's elect, that was intro to Jesus by Jack Wyrtzen, BUT GOD saved me by the right truth, repent , trust and obey Jesus! I thank God for all those in my life who pushed me to study His Word and learn the whole truth. When will they see the Light? They have a good method ,teaching of discipleship, chuck Swintal is one of the best discipleship teacher today, I love the truths of discipleship he teaches, BUT< he is a heretic, because he separates it from sal. He makes sal. to be :faith alone"heresy" ! Do you see what I am complaining about? Sal. is not,"just trust Jesus as savior by faith and you are saved". NO WAY! This error has been around for a 100 yrs plus, and the church is almost dead. Because of a false sal. taught. for all the "good" discipleship teaching, the church is still dying.why? because 95% of pro.christian are still lost in sin. ("good"= good but bad) it is bad because it is a second blessing of grace separated from sal. djames, I hope you know ,now, what I am saying: Jimmy is just as much a heretic as you are. OK,got it clear? Be blessed of God, my "good"brother. Hoffco LOL , please have holy laugh, and also a holy cry.
 
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danschance

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Good morning to you all. Why am I not able to get into the other sites:Is some one limiting my access? OR is my PC have a fit, sick, need the dr..? So. In the Providence of God, I am here,OK, with a new wife and a great ministry. WHY, such a terible life for me,a good christian, OK, I am a control freak, I am so dumb. with this thing. I am a stone age man,I guess!? The Jezebel spirit destroyed my family. I tried to teach my children God's ways, one daugther would cry, rebell, my wife would tell me to quit, hurting the child, so world war 3 started in my family. fast forward 40 yrs. In the end, my wife died young,2007. my son turned homo. , and yrs later he was killed in an acc, at work , Rochester N.Y. 2009, He was saved by CPR, is alive but totally disabled today. My oldest boy never married , was once engaged to a Chinese lady, but her father forbade the marriage, that son has never married, I think it is the Jezabel S he fears All of 4 children will not allow me in their homes today..such tragedy! WHY? My 2 daughters married Have 2 kids and 1kid . their husbands despise me for talking of spiritual maters and contending for the faith. my one daughter and wife started it all. So you know, I hate Jezebels. I forbid my wife to preach or teach men. She ia a licensed C&MA pastora. I was defrocked by the C&MA in N.Y.. I hate second blessing preaching, The "crisis sanct." experience of the C&MA is of the DEVIL, most deeper life movements are of the Devil , all the discipleship teaching today, separated from the new birth experience is of the Devil. Jerry Falwel's sal. and discipleship was of the Devil., Jack wyrtzen's sal. and discipleship program was/is of the Devil. BUT, God, is using these false teachers to save His elect, I am one of God's elect, that was intro to Jesus by Jack Wyrtzen, BUT GOD saved me by the right truth, repent , trust and obey Jesus! I thank God for all those in my life who pushed me to study His Word and learn the whole truth. When will they see the Light? They have a good method ,teaching of discipleship, chuck Swintal is one of the best discipleship teacher today, I love the truths of discipleship he teaches, BUT< he is a heretic, because he separates it from sal. He makes sal. to be :faith alone"heresy" ! Do you see what I am complaining about? Sal. is not,"just trust Jesus as savior by faith and you are saved". NO WAY! This error has been around for a 100 yrs plus, and the church is almost dead. Because of a false sal. taught. for all the "good" discipleship teaching, the church is still dying.why? because 95% of pro.christian are still lost in sin. ("good"= good but bad) it is bad because it is a second blessing of grace separated from sal. djames, I hope you know ,now, what I am saying: Jimmy is just as much a heretic as you are. OK,got it clear? Be blessed of God, my "good"brother. Hoffco LOL , please have holy laugh, and also a holy cry.

Wow, brother. Seems like you have been thru the ringer a few times. Sorry your family has such issues. I hope the rift can be healed soon.
 
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Just thought this was applicable to the thread. Jezebel was never a believer in God. Jezebel was not a teacher of scripture but a false teacher that lead people away from God and into sexual immorality and spiritual idolatry. The "Jezebel spirit" can be applicable to either a man or a woman. (not that I take much stock in anything found on the internet. . .this did line up with the word)

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Better yet, Elmer towns is a well-known Bible professor/author. Not to mention, he's Baptist.;)
 
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1still_waters

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Perhaps the best way to define the Jezebel spirit is to say it characterizes anyone who acts in the same manner as Jezebel did, engaging in immorality, idolatry, false teaching and unrepentant sin.
He forgot the part about woman exercising authority over man, and someone claiming to be a prophet/prophetess.

To go beyond that is to engage in conjecture and can possibly lead to false accusations and divisiveness within the body of Christ.
On a whole he's right about not going beyond what's in Bible. Unfortunately the pentecostal, charismatic, word of faith camps do go beyond that with elaborate criminal profiles that do....
lead to false accusations and divisiveness within the body of Christ.
Which lead to Jezebel hunts.
 
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1still_waters

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Better yet, Elmer towns is a well-known Bible professor/author. Not to mention, he's Baptist.;)
Not quite.
He has preached in those circles and doesn't speak the truth about them.

--> Talbot School of Theology: Christian Educators

Long before I came to work at Liberty University, I was speaking at Pentecostal, Charismatic, and Wesleyan-type groups for Sunday School and Church Growth conferences… . I am committed to the Independent Baptist position; however, I am not anti-Charismatic, anti-Pentecostal, nor anti-Wesleyan. I am committed to my beliefs, but a strong commitment to Christ keeps me from being intolerant or in opposition to others who believe differently about doctrines that are not essential to the fundamental doctrines of Christianity. I have called this "the Doctrine of Blessability." … I believe God blesses those of different persuasions not because of their accuracy of Scriptural interpretation or a legalistic view of the Christian life, but God blesses a person because of his love [of] Jesus Christ and his faith in him. (S. Towns, 1985, p. 121)
 
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1still_waters

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Better yet, Elmer towns is a well-known Bible professor/author. Not to mention, he's Baptist.;)
He also published a book which includes discussion of charismatic revivals like Toronto blessing etc..

link--->http://elmertowns.com/books/online/10Greatest/10Greatest_revivals_ever[ETOWNS].pdf

This is talk that's sympathetic to the movements..and the "manifestations"

We should note that strange and controversial phenomena are often associatedwith revivals: the “jerks,” shouting, being “slain in the Spirit,” speaking in tongues, barking,dancing in the Spirit, and more. Since none of these extraordinary manifestations haveappeared in all revivals, we conclude that none of them are mandatory for a spiritualawakening. True revival can happen without them.
Nevertheless, most of these unusual phenomena occur more than once in theseaccounts. What, then, do we think is the cause of such occurrences? We agree with thoseobservers who have concluded simply that when the divine is poured into the human, wecan expect the human to react in extraordinary ways.

Some of these phenomena, we believe, are prompted by God. At other times theyare just the exuberant expressions of those who are experiencing God’s presence. For thatreason, we offer a few words of caution to those who read about the various displays ofemotions while they pray for revival in our own day.
Barking is prompted by God?
 
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danschance

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I can't imagine God making anyone bark. Sounds demonic and stupid to me.
 
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Maggie,

Please show from the word there are those spirits. Chapter and verse please.
[/QUOTE There are far too many!! Simply consider the CHARACTER of the person of Jezebel and even how the Lord accuses the church at Thyatira of tolerating...putting up with...the woman Jezebel. This was LOOOONG after the actual Jezebel was dead!! But it was that SPIRIT, the demon spirit operating in the actual Jezebel, that was now operating in the church at Thyatira!! A spirit, like that of Jezebel, like that of Pride, like those of greed, hate, homosexuality, murder, lying, licentiousness, etc are identified BY the behavior that they elicit in or through a person...the actions and behavior of a person can identify the demon that is working in or through them, oppressing them, influencing them.

Rev 2:19 ‘I know your deeds, and your love and faith and service and [b]perseverance, and that your [c]deeds of late are greater than [d]at first.20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray so that they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.21 I gave her time to repent, and she does not want to repent of her immorality The Jezebel spirit is a demon that influences the behavior of a person, male or female:They call themselves women/men of God and even boast of being prophetic; they seek to teach others his/her ways (yet IF they find an avid follower will do what they can to discredit that person); she/he will promote teachings that 'seem' right, but when held up to the Light and Truth of God's word, fall far short; AND they will use flirtation, body language, compliments and whatever else they deem necessary to get what they want, justifying it as 'being God's will' when it is not.
The spirit of fear is mentioned several times in scripture as is the spirit of murder, hate, greed (consider Judas), and many others. People are born with a sin nature because of Adam. Unchecked, which is to say that a person remains unsaved, they are, in a nutshell, excellent tools for the demonic to operate through. A demon/evil spirit, MUST have a physical body to operate through. Humans are the vessels of choice, but they will use animals if necessary; consider Mark 5, Mt 8, 2 Kings 2:22-24
 
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AngelCakes

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He forgot the part about woman exercising authority over man, and someone claiming to be a prophet/prophetess.

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you seem to mention this quite often
does the idea of a woman exercising authority over a man scare you or are you just thoroughly convinced it is unbiblical?
 
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MaggieMye

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AND yes, the Jez was overbearing and took authority over a man....HOWEVER, a woman can only do that it the man has an Ahab spirit....letting her do what HE should be doing. (Not that King Ahab should have killed the guy to get his land.)
 

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ARRRRRRRG
stop!!!!!!!!!!
 
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1still_waters

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you seem to mention this quite often
does the idea of a woman exercising authority over a man scare you or are you just thoroughly convinced it is unbiblical?
I try to follow the Bible ma'am.

1 cor 14
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Let your[SUP][d][/SUP] women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they areto be submissive, as the law also says. [SUP]35 [/SUP]And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached?[SUP]37 [/SUP]If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. [SUP]38 [/SUP]But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant.[SUP][e][/SUP]
1 Tim 2
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.[SUP]12 [/SUP]And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.[SUP]13 [/SUP]For Adam was formed first, then Eve
 

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