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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
I was possessed by one demon who called himself baphomet. You won't that name in the bible as the origins of this idol was secretly worshipped by some in the knights of templar after the bible was written.
In the gospels we see jesus preaching, teaching, healing and casting demons out of people. In those four books, only one demon was identified, legion. So my question to you is why do you think the demon jezebel must be listed in scripture? Where does the bible say that it lists every evil spirit by name?
I was possessed by one demon who called himself baphomet. You won't that name in the bible as the origins of this idol was secretly worshipped by some in the knights of templar after the bible was written.
In the gospels we see jesus preaching, teaching, healing and casting demons out of people. In those four books, only one demon was identified, legion. So my question to you is why do you think the demon jezebel must be listed in scripture? Where does the bible say that it lists every evil spirit by name?
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
well i posted before i read this...sometime lets go over what scripture says
about "spirit" ive told you this once before. Its not good to not understand
mans behavior and disposition talked of in scripture and think it means demons.
Its making a mess of people when the church cant tell the difference between mental,
spiritual, and the effects of longterm sin and mindsets, and illnesses.
well i posted before i read this...sometime lets go over what scripture says
about "spirit" ive told you this once before. Its not good to not understand
mans behavior and disposition talked of in scripture and think it means demons.
Its making a mess of people when the church cant tell the difference between mental,
spiritual, and the effects of longterm sin and mindsets, and illnesses.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
please list all traditional churches which read only select pieces of the Word.
provide evidence.
and look at who LIKED this statement.
traditional churches read only select pieces of the Word..They are not born again and so do not have access to the Holy Spirit or His counsel
BEHOLD STRONG DELUSION.
what a disaster.
please list all traditional churches which read only select pieces of the Word.
provide evidence.
and look at who LIKED this statement.
traditional churches read only select pieces of the Word..They are not born again and so do not have access to the Holy Spirit or His counsel
BEHOLD STRONG DELUSION.
what a disaster.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
SARAH -
'parently you're not born again, you are unsaved, and have no (!!access!!) to the Holy Spirit and His counsel.
you do attend a traditional church, don't you Sarah?
(apologies in advance if you don't)
SARAH -
'parently you're not born again, you are unsaved, and have no (!!access!!) to the Holy Spirit and His counsel.
you do attend a traditional church, don't you Sarah?
(apologies in advance if you don't)
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
I need to prepare some for what may be coming down the pipe next.
There are some who attend churches that are in open rebellion/fornication to what the Lord's command is concerning the roles of men and women in the church and home.
What's clear from God concerning these things is looking them straight in the eyes and it makes them uncomfortable.
It bugs them to no end that while they rant about "Jezebels" who rule over men, it bugs them that they are in churches that actually promote women ruling over men in the church. In order to dodge that which is causing them discomfort, they're going to attempt to take what is clear, and blur it with what isn't so clear.
God is clear that women shouldn't rule over men in the church and home. That is VERY clear. What isn't clear are contexts like message boards on the Internet. I would expect at some point, for these folks to try to blur what is clear, with what isn't so clear.
Then once what is clear is blurred, they can go back to ranting about the "Jezebels" ruling over men, as they totally ignore their own churches/movements that promote going against, what God is so clear about.
I need to prepare some for what may be coming down the pipe next.
There are some who attend churches that are in open rebellion/fornication to what the Lord's command is concerning the roles of men and women in the church and home.
What's clear from God concerning these things is looking them straight in the eyes and it makes them uncomfortable.
It bugs them to no end that while they rant about "Jezebels" who rule over men, it bugs them that they are in churches that actually promote women ruling over men in the church. In order to dodge that which is causing them discomfort, they're going to attempt to take what is clear, and blur it with what isn't so clear.
God is clear that women shouldn't rule over men in the church and home. That is VERY clear. What isn't clear are contexts like message boards on the Internet. I would expect at some point, for these folks to try to blur what is clear, with what isn't so clear.
Then once what is clear is blurred, they can go back to ranting about the "Jezebels" ruling over men, as they totally ignore their own churches/movements that promote going against, what God is so clear about.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
When you say the "one man", in the context of Scripture, is that one man the shepherd or the husband? IMO, context leans toward the husband. I see nothing about positions or church hierarchy in this text.
The rest of what you say I am in full agreement with. I have absolutely no problem agreeing with someone who is truthful for the sake of truth, and not an agenda.
1 Timothy 2:9-15 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; [SUP]10 [/SUP]But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [SUP]12 [/SUP]But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [SUP]13 [/SUP]For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [SUP]14 [/SUP]And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
When you say the "one man", in the context of Scripture, is that one man the shepherd or the husband? IMO, context leans toward the husband. I see nothing about positions or church hierarchy in this text.
The rest of what you say I am in full agreement with. I have absolutely no problem agreeing with someone who is truthful for the sake of truth, and not an agenda.
1 Timothy 2:9-15 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; [SUP]10 [/SUP]But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [SUP]12 [/SUP]But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [SUP]13 [/SUP]For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [SUP]14 [/SUP]And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
UMMM My question was directed towards Maggie because she was listing things like rebellion,etc which again the Bible does call sin. Please show me anywhere in the Bible there are demons called homosexuality,lust,greed,overeating,yelling at the TV because Brett Favre lost another game,etc etc.
UMM Perhaps God didn't list their names because it's unimportant because our focus is to be on Him and not demons?
UMMM My question was directed towards Maggie because she was listing things like rebellion,etc which again the Bible does call sin. Please show me anywhere in the Bible there are demons called homosexuality,lust,greed,overeating,yelling at the TV because Brett Favre lost another game,etc etc.
UMM Perhaps God didn't list their names because it's unimportant because our focus is to be on Him and not demons?
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Mark 3:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
[HR][/HR]Mark 3:30 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
[HR][/HR]Mark 5:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
[HR][/HR]Mark 5:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
[HR][/HR]Mark 6:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
[HR][/HR]Mark 7:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
[HR][/HR]Luke 4:33 (KJV)
[SUP]33 [/SUP]And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice,
[HR][/HR]Luke 6:18 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And they that were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed.
[HR][/HR]Acts 5:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one.
[HR][/HR]Acts 8:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed.
Maybe we should call them unclean spirits, because that's what the writers call them
Deuteronomy 19:15 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
[HR][/HR]Matthew 18:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
[HR][/HR]2 Corinthians 13:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
Mark 3:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
[HR][/HR]Mark 3:30 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
[HR][/HR]Mark 5:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
[HR][/HR]Mark 5:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
[HR][/HR]Mark 6:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
[HR][/HR]Mark 7:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
[HR][/HR]Luke 4:33 (KJV)
[SUP]33 [/SUP]And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice,
[HR][/HR]Luke 6:18 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And they that were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed.
[HR][/HR]Acts 5:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one.
[HR][/HR]Acts 8:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed.
Maybe we should call them unclean spirits, because that's what the writers call them
Deuteronomy 19:15 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
[HR][/HR]Matthew 18:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
[HR][/HR]2 Corinthians 13:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
I'm not? Then who is that tells me that I am a child of God,bought and paid for with the price of Jesus shed blood? The very same spirit who convicted me of sin and my desperate need of a savior? The very same spirit that shows me when I have done wrong? The very same spirit that opens God's word to me?
No need for apologies Zone
I came back to the traditional church.
I'm not? Then who is that tells me that I am a child of God,bought and paid for with the price of Jesus shed blood? The very same spirit who convicted me of sin and my desperate need of a savior? The very same spirit that shows me when I have done wrong? The very same spirit that opens God's word to me?
No need for apologies Zone
I came back to the traditional church.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Romans 8:16
16The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
2 Corinthians 1
19For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, whom we proclaimed among you, Silvanus and Timothy and I, was not Yes and No, but in him it is always Yes. 20 For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. 21And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, 22and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
it is God
who establishes us with you in Christ
it is God
who has also put his seal on us
it is God
Who has given us his Spirit
in our hearts
as a guarantee.
love you.
Romans 8:16
16The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
2 Corinthians 1
19For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, whom we proclaimed among you, Silvanus and Timothy and I, was not Yes and No, but in him it is always Yes. 20 For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. 21And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, 22and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
it is God
who establishes us with you in Christ
it is God
who has also put his seal on us
it is God
Who has given us his Spirit
in our hearts
as a guarantee.
love you.