Cure for cancer?

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As cancer can arise because of environmental, physical or emotional stressors, my tried, tested and true methods to cover all bases:

1. Nascent and or Detoxified iodine daily,
2. Glutathione daily
3. fruit fruit and fruit (raw/organic veganism)
4. Daily exercise
5. Journalling
6. Relationship with God.

Mum who has gone through cancer, eats raw apricot seeds every day, vitamin b17 is a fantastic measure for preventing cancer. Encouragement in Christ for you all.


 

JosephsDreams

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I just read the article. There is some good points made. A diet high in sugars should be avoided by a person with cancer, actually for anyone, as it accelerates aging and is a contributor in the formation of many diseases. Bu the same can be said for eating to much protein. The advice to stay away from processed meats is, again, something everyone should follow, not just people with cancer.
And fruit gets a bad rap with people who have cancer. We can't completely cut out all our sugars, or long term we'll have no energy. Our brain needs glucose.
Fruit is a very detoxifying food. Some fruits are like a brush along the lining of the stomach. And fruit is a food in which there is very little active digestion. The sugars in the fruit are essentially diffused in the stomach, so they don't all enter the bloodstream, as all other foods with sugar.
Probably the most ideal does for someone with (I am generalizing here) cancer is la diet of ow sugar, low on protein intake , and high of plenty of juicing, lots of non starchy vegetables, maybe some sprouts, a lot of non cooked foods, and some "natural" fats, coconut oil being one of them.
 

blue_ladybug

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Here we go again. Being told that people's diets probably contributed to their cancer. :/ I know you mean well, Joseph, but..... you're sort of coming off like we're responsible for our illness because of how we eat. AND you're sort of coming off like a know it all. That's just my sole impression, anyways.. No offense.
 

JosephsDreams

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I am not insulted. And I don't mean to come off like that. It is surely not my intention, nor in my mind. I promise you that. I also don't have in my head I know it all, or that I am better then anyone because of my diet. I promise you that too.
My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer in late 2009, and died 15 months ago from it. I told her at the beginning what I thought she should do lifestyle wise, and she declined. I explained that if she followed the guidelines that she had a much better chance (according to the articles I had read, my limited experiences counseling people who had cancer, and most of all, the experiences of my friend who is a doctor and has counseled thousands of people who had cancer) of surviving. That please do it for the girls and I. She still declined.
After that I scarcely mentioned it.
This is a natural health forum. On other forums people get to state their views on politics and religion and biblical interpretations and family. Some of them ask for advice. Can't I do the same here?
I am trying to be e benefit here. Believe it or not, I get paid for dispensing the info I have put forth here. And the guidelines I have put forth have benefited a fair amount of people over the years. It has changed some peoples lives. Some people I have spoken with have even come into a relationship with God. I am not doing it for personal gain. You all here don't even know my full name. I am not looking to sell anything, or to pick up clients.
Maybe you have spoken to other people here, and what your saying represents their opinions too? I try to (I know I fail more then I would like to, and it bothers me when I do) live according to how wants us Christians to live. So God is a gentlemen. He does not force His way on us. He does not want us forcing Christianity on anyone. We are to state the gospel, and let people make their own choices.'
This is a public place. I have it in my mind to follow that same pattern.
But you know what, if you can tell me what I repeatedly type (not a one time thing) that gives people the impression you talked about, I will try to adjust it.
Or if there is a lot of you here that just don't want to hear me about this at all, then tell me, and I will just stop coming here and postin the importance of diet out there.
 

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By all means, put it out there, just don't try to make it seem like a cure-all for any or all disease. A different diet may indeed benefit some, but you've got to remember it's NOT a one size fits all thing. Some may see more benefit than others, and some may not see any benefits at all. And don't make it sound like a change of diet is their ONLY hope for curing/preventing cancer. Some people may take you literally on that and take it as gospel that it will work. I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't offer people false hope on something that may or may not help them deal with their illness. Cancer patients want a cure, not a false promise of "maybe" it will work. Recommend the diet, but don't keep shoving it on them if they say no.
 

JosephsDreams

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I never put it as a cure all for all diseases. But it will help save lives or improve quality of lives in just about all cases of disease with MOST people, to varying degrees, with neurological diseases and later stages of cancer that have metastasized being notable exceptions. There is no cancer "cure" in either western medicine or in the naturopathic world, and I have been quite careful to say that changing ones diet only increases their chances. And it does, almost in every case, if maybe not every single time. One thing is for sure, it can not do any harm, unlike chemo does, or radiation.
I also never said or implied that diet was there only hope. But I have said outright it can increase their chances, and in some cases be the main reason, sometimes the only reason, why some people have gotten better.
I also never said that one specific diet is geared toward every single illness. Why do you imply I have said that? But there also is not as much variation as you would think.
If I asked you why that was so, I doubt you even know why. But if you do, tell me why.
Do you know that one general diet WILL improve a healthy persons health, and can aide a person who has disease?
It is not a false hope. That is where you really don't understand this whole paradigm. There are people with chronic and acute diseases. A diet closer to the one our creator designed for us will, in more then a few instances, improve quality of life with people who have chronic disease, even to the point where some people can completely eliminate their meds.
And with acute conditions, the lifestyle/diet can be a factor, and sometimes be the main reason, in saving or prolonging lives.
I am not shoving a diet onto anyone. I put it out there, and state, to the best of the my knowledge, using as a resource my friends knowledge, and the scientific/holistic communities knowledge, as to what the chances of this or that is concerning diet and health and healing. There are variables unknown to us that make this an inexact science, but the same goes for western medicine. If there were no variables, a lot more people would be getting cured with either science. So anyway, it is my hope that whoever reads the posts can make a decision with the information I put forth regarding an alternative treatment that is usually more sustainable and is a gentler and safer way to a cure or improve their ailment.
Quite frankly, I think that it is okay, even good to challenge what some may see as unorthodox information, but again, quite frankly judging by your statements I think you probably don't have enough knowledge, education and experience about this to be speaking about this in a way that that is constructive to furthering a conversation that is enlightening or instructive to others, except in maybe the most general sense, and even that, the generalities you have stated to me are not even always correct. And trust me, I don't mean that in any demeaning manner.
You just keep making generalizations, often about things I have not even said or neither implied. Or about that diet can't do this, or do that. And no offense, but so far, from everything you have said about it, you seem to have a dim and narrow view on this subject.
Again, I mean no disrespect, but I think you are misguided. I am confident you mean well, but you just don't understand this.
Read my post from yesterday that had the word title typology in the title to maybe try and get a handle on the bigger picture.
I can tell you with almost near certainty, the guidelines for biological healing, to do a diet that will provoke that is not what you think it is.
 

blue_ladybug

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I'm not saying that you HAVE said these things. I'm just saying, that when people are ill, and they've tried everything without success, then they may see your diet as their only last resort. You never know what scared, desperate people will do. I know that certain regimens can help (some) people, yes. :) If they see benefits, good. If it eases their symptoms, then that's even better. :)

I don't know too many people who would WILLINGLY try your probiotic, algae and wheat grass diet, though..lol.. Blechh!!! Then again, desperation makes people do crazy things they normally wouldn't do. I'll stick to salads and leafy greens. :)
 
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Glad you gained something from it, I hope everyone does, everything that I've learned is because of God's grace.

Have you heard of a Ketogenic Diet which is said to starve cancer cells?
Yes I've heard of it. I respect whatever your position maybe, however, I personally don't advocate meat, dairy, seafood - particularly not when someone has cancer or they're trying to prevent it. Meat is one of the biggest causes of cancer.

The lifestyle that has worked for me for the past 14 years is fruit fruit fruit. 9/10 that's all I eat and I've been happy ever since I made that change. Vegans who aren't as strict as I am with what they put into their body, advocate a high carb low fat diet. There's no portion/calorie control, it's all plant based, and it has lots of healing properties. For me, and the challenges I've experienced, I have found what I've discussed in other posts the best thing that works for me. God speed.
 
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thank you both so much,

blue_ladybug and JosephDreams....

just a share..

it is a sure fact that the percentage of people ALL around the world
are deficient in some of the 'B' vitamins that our bodies absolutely have to have
in order to maintain a healthy and balanced LIFE = fight infections
and aid our immune system and blood/ balance at all levels...ETC..

our Heavenly Father led us many years ago to supplement our eating habits with
Brewers Yeast - just one of the many natural supplements which we need to maintain
a healthy life-style, and this product contains all of the 'B's that we need, to maintain and find
a healthy balance...
we have used for many, many years, 'KAL' Nutritional YEAST flakes -
unbelievable results and benefits, love yourself, heal yourself....

we also sprinkle our, 'oh so spoiled cat's morning 'wet' food feeding',
with this yeast and he has 'always' eaten the Yeast first,'sprinkled on top'
before he goes for the 'gourmet'.....
his is an enormous cat and has always been very healthy and his coat
shines like the sun = also hardly ever a problem with fleas or tics =
actually, this last whole year, and he is an outside cat, 'of course the garages
belong to him' with some kitty amenities??? -
many rural animals live-on and come through our farm ,daily/nightly, and he never had one tic...
YEAST>>>we truly believe that this is a great benefit and the deciding factor,
in his health and ours....
 

JosephsDreams

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I have been using nutritional yeast for years.
Vegans definitely need to supplement certain things.
Most Americans are lacking in Vit D, Vit B6, Omega 3, and Magnesium.
People from around 50 and up are usually deficient in trace minerals.
 
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Mistletoe or Iscadore Therapy is another choice for people interesting in preventing or getting rid of cancers from the body. It's something that's been used for centuries.
 
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Most Americans are lacking in Vit D

I wanted to add this. I use a liquid vitamin D3. I find the liquid form from a reputable brand so much more beneficial than the tablet/capsule form in my overall health.
 

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Forty eight minute video about a former nurse of oncology for 17 years. She speaks about her experiences with cancer patients who who do chemo, her thoughts on why it works only initially, and other inside info that most people don't know. She talks about chemo kickbacks to doctors, and how hospitals make huge profits using chemo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddADeIsXrOw&list=PLHAGJVUIhap2I0lejpR91tzYw0N2RfYj1
 

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Comments from people who watched the video link in the previous post.

RectalCancerMyAss1 year ago
Chris, I follow your blog and watch your videos. This video is the BEST one you've made so far. I volunteer at an infusion clinic and sometimes I see some "questionable" behavior; for example giving chemo to a frail 80+ year old patient only to see them suffer from the effects and die shortly after. The reason I volunteer there is to tell patients my wellness journey. Yes, I did the slash/poison/burn but I didn't know better at the time and I researched for complementary treatments as soon as I was out of the hospital. I healed and was cancer free much sooner than doctors predicted. My diet change is the reason I am still alive. My doctor finally wrote a note stating that my diet change could be the reason why, but wouldn't go further. After watching your video, I now know he could lose his license. I am sharing this on my blog. Thank you!
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Gra Piken1 month ago
+Diana Marr This one written by a scientist who survived cancer - Diana. 'Give up dairy products to beat cancer’ - TelegraphThe closed mindedness you mention seems to reside in yourself as well. I'm well aware of vitamin deficiencies experienced by vegans. The vegans you hate. But I'm neither a true vegan and I take sublingual B12. 
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Dennis W1 week ago
+Dimensions100 No, I never heard of it but I'm reading about it right now after you told me about it.

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Troy McAllister3 months ago
Western med s///. Even Ronald Reagan went to Mexico to be treated for colon cancer while in office. Have you noticed these scum doctors in the US can't heal, but they sure have mastered telling people how long they have to live. Stay away from these people. They're walking grim reapers waiting to tell you when you will die.

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TheBookWorm17182 months ago
+Troy McAllister Meanwhile they're not willing to take what they dish out, they tell other people they HAVE to go through all these treatments if they want to get better and live, but so many of them have already decided when THEY start to go south they're just going to end it, gee, I guess all those 'miracle' treatments everybody MUST have don't really work, eh? Otherwise the doctors would sign up for them too.
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Zara Harrison1 month ago
I live in ireland. I have yet to see a nutritionist advertise their services to help people treat their cancer. Is it just me? Anyone seen nutritionists advertise this or even discuss it? Surely they wouldn't lose their licence for that

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MissMaria19881 week ago
Gerson Therapy does this.

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Bert Nunyabusiness3 months ago
People just do not grasp the concept of proper nutrition. In most cases, it's the blind leading the blind. The part that actually irritates me is that medical students are only taught the bare minimum in med schools about nutrition. The understanding of what we put in is what we get out. I came her looking for videos to share with people who just don't get it.
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Bert Nunyabusiness2 months ago
+Zaheer -Sama Nutrition for the human race is not contradictory. You either eat good, healthy food and reap the benefits from it, or eat garbage and have a society that we currently have. Fat, sick and riddled with diseases. What's the contradiction? What foods are good and what are bad? Don't need to be a 160 IQ PhD to figure it out. Please tell me how many days, weeks or months you were subjected to nutritional education in med school? And if you don't mind, what university? I've done quite a bit of research on the subject, so curious to know.
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Zaheer -Sama2 months ago
+Bert Nunyabusiness You clearly aren't keeping up with modern research, the main contradictions are in effects of certain foods, raw vs. cooked, antioxidants benefits and destructive properties, every day a study is disproved, and the next day that study is disproved.I did Medicine Undergraduate in Trinity College Dublin, we had a regular class, I I was in a specialized class streamlined for Oncology so the min emphasis was on the effects of food on the body in terms of Cancer and Cancer-like growths. Basically if you arent growing it in your back garden using no pesticides chances are it has carcinogens in it. We also leanred about the harmful effects of antioxidants (which cant distinguish between carcinogens and Cancer cells themselves) and basic organic chemistry of nutrition. In terms of time i would say all in all 20 classes compromising of 40 minute lessons each, 4 tests.Also apologies for my previous grammar, phones don't fit my fingers
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Traci Richardson1 week ago
I read somewhere that doctors get the biggest kickback by big pharma out of all their drugs. The more prescriptions they write / the more money they get. People don't realize what motivates so many of the doctors decisions when it comes to prescriptions. Holistic doctors are turning up dead all over the world under very suspicious circumstances. 
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FrakDaPirates4 days ago
All the links are on his website linked above for all those that keep asking.

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David Smith1 year ago
I just have to say, Chris looks better and better as time goes by. Radiant. Thank you for bringing up the cannabis oil issue - this should be a standard household medicine just like aspirin once was.

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Martha C1 week ago
+Kimberly Wills Check out the FunctionalMedicine.org Doctors that care and are free to be real doctors with patients. It is a group of doctors and others who want this. Different groups around the country and free seminars online.

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Randi Randolph1 week ago
Cool Beans! I am a stage 4 cervical cancer survivor...so blessed...so blessed to be alive and well!~Thanks God for LIFE!!! :() HALLELUJAH!

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ejnvids2 weeks ago
Super great and valuable video. Priceless!

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Mark Burden2 weeks ago
cancer is my life if no cancer in your life don't talk 2 me been there done that

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Roberta Folks2 months ago
~ I'm impressed with the Penninsula Cancer Institute ( Hampton Virginia ), that I'm being treated at, where they provide you a Nutritionist, massage therapy, as well as an information & resources center, that offers a wealth of knowledge about Alternative + Nutritional Therapy. These are cost~free services, to their patients. My dr., nurses, and nutritionist, stressed how important nutrition is .their patients. I've always had a healthy diet + taken "Alive!" vitamins, extra C, Homeopathic medicine, exercise. ~ Yet, despite all of this ~ I still had the genetic markers for. developing SLE Lupus, CLL Leukemia/ Lymphoma ( stage II ) +. SEVERE + EXCRUCIATINGLY painful neuropathy in my HANDS, arms, FEET, legs! The Leukemia is recent, Lupus + nerve aim = last 12. years.~. I'm 100% POSITIVE = THE MAIN REASON that is the SLE Lupus + Leukemia have been so manageable, = lots of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, purified water, vitamins.
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Arahu Aaron Marsters3 days ago
Who is interviewing Who ???

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MissMaria19881 week ago
For a fact, doctors when they get cancer they do not take chemo as treatment. Isnt that spes ? To me it says it all.

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Susan Pendell1 month ago
They killed my best girl friend from childhood with chemo.

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moonspirit12 weeks ago
+Susan Pendell :( they literally killed my family member with chemo as well. She had no cancer just before and they convinced her to take it just in case, which she did. Immediately after she got cancer and died a couple of months later.

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Laverne Webb2 months ago
Thank you both. It really saddens me hearing all of this. Doctors are legally killing people



 

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[video=youtube;ddADeIsXrOw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddADeIsXrOw&list=PLHAGJVUIhap2I0lejpR91tzY w0N2RfYj1[/video]
 

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Forty seven minute video about cancer and choices of therapies.

[video=youtube;68wHVUYvI7M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68wHVUYvI7M[/video]
 

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You may have read on these, but if interested:

Major Cell Phone Radiation Study Reignites Cancer Questions - Scientific AmericanThere are safety steps individuals can take, Carpenter says. Using the speakerphone, keeping the phone on the desk instead of on the body and using a wired headset whenever possible would help limit RF exposure. “We are certainly not going to go back to a pre-wireless age,” he says. But there are a number of ways to reduce exposure, particularly among sensitive populations.”
 

JosephsDreams

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Also, Zero Point Global sells some anti EMF stickers for the phone that really are effective.
 

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I cannot read much today, but i can listen to some. someone here says cancer is so simple... overfed but malnourished, stuffed, but starving...[video=youtube;xS0xclN1DfU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS0xclN1DfU[/video]