Cure for cancer?

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Crustyone

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Oh come on blue_ladybug, one of the ways it told about to get oxygen into the body was to dump 2 qts. of hydrogen peroxide into bath water and soak for 1/2 hour. That sounds like it could be pretty relaxing. It did caution anyone doing it, not to do it before bed, as the extra oxygen in the system makes it nearly impossible to get to sleep. I have to agree with that, as I do the ingestion method and I can't do it before bed for the same reason. It seems to make various pains go away after a few doses for me, so maybe a few baths would do the same for anyone else. I don't remember if it said how many baths per day or not. I do my oxygen thing once a day, but I have no serious illness, at least, none with any symptoms.
 

Angela53510

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Oh come on blue_ladybug, one of the ways it told about to get oxygen into the body was to dump 2 qts. of hydrogen peroxide into bath water and soak for 1/2 hour. That sounds like it could be pretty relaxing. It did caution anyone doing it, not to do it before bed, as the extra oxygen in the system makes it nearly impossible to get to sleep. I have to agree with that, as I do the ingestion method and I can't do it before bed for the same reason. It seems to make various pains go away after a few doses for me, so maybe a few baths would do the same for anyone else. I don't remember if it said how many baths per day or not. I do my oxygen thing once a day, but I have no serious illness, at least, none with any symptoms.
My husband has nothing wrong with his body. He does not sit in H2O2 every day. It is called having "good genetics" and probably eating right hasn't hurt.

Sadly, personal testimonies count for nothing in science. You would need a double blind study with a control group not getting the hydrogen peroxide bath that lasted for months, or more likely years to see if it did anything to the body.

My guess would be it would not. Sorry about that! And lucky for you having good genetics!
 

EarsToHear

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Unless you have a healthy gut, you’ll fail to extract most of the healthy nutrients from your food, organic or otherwise.

A healthy, well functioning gut has 80% good bacteria and 20% bad bacteria. If the bad stuff takes over your gut, then you’ll likely have ongoing health problems. That’s because, for example, most of you immune system comes from your gut.

Sugar, for example, is a major destroyer of good, gut bacteria.

Watch the following video for more info.[video]https://youtu.be/HIYZGKSoQzw[/video]
 
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JosephsDreams

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Cancer is still not as well understood as some of us believe, or as some medical institutions would have the general public believe. That being said, our knowledge has come a long way. The latest research is pointing to the onset of cancer, and perhaps the perpetuation of it, having a viral component. Cancer, while having traits that are general to every person who has it, is also very particular to the individual.
A big problem with those that go into remission is that often the cancer stem cell has not died, so it is merely dormant, waiting for the proper circumstances to once again flourish. The future of medical cancer treatment may be with stem cells.

A large percentage of people who under go chemo treatment, die from the effects of the chemo before the actual cancer. But there are some people who do respond well to chemo and radiation, although from my understanding, it can sometimes be a crap shoot.

There are many reasons people get cancer, and often the conditions that allow a cell to mutate are slowly fermenting in the body for many years before the cancer permeates the organism.
Environmental issues, genetics, mental and spiritual state, and lifestyle/diet all play a role.
Many studies show (not conclusively though, but then again, science can not prove with certainty in the majority of cases the very specific reasons why people get cancer either, aside from the obvious like nuclear radiation, or that type of scenario) that diet has a major role in preventing cancer, and helping to rid the body of it if one has the misfortune of hosting it.

Regarding diet, most agree that systemic acidity is a factor, as well as chronic cellular dehydration, advanced glycation end products (AGEs), chronic inflammation, chronic oxidation, cellular fermentation, biologically unfriendly chemicals in the processed foods that many Americans eat, and chronically low oxygen levels in the body.
If I had cancer, I would never, ever use a microwave. For that matter, I would not use it even if I was healthy.
Anyway, there may be, and probably are other factors, but these are some of what is known, and what I can recall, just typing out a casual response.
The seven factors I listed above are all heavily influenced by diet, and then lifestyle.
We often have no control over certain environmental factors, such as living within 200 miles of an airport, which uses sonar, or air pollution, or less protection from solar x-rays then our ancestors had, and other such elements.
But we can control our diets.
As far as remedies, a lot of the potential success of them, as most of us no, depends on when the cancer is diagnosed, and the persons state of mind and spirit.
Usually, there is no one single treatment that will cure cancer. There can be, but from what I have been told and have read, often, that is not the case.

Besides altering the lifestyle, which may be the single most important factor, but not the only factor in curing cancer, one must do their best to improve there environment, and I ma not referring to just chemicals, I also believe that may include the people who they share space with who may be detrimental to their healing, as well as drawing closer to God. Transforming the mind to think in a more positive manner, and train oneself to focus their thoughts on healing can be a big help.
Breathing correctly can be a helpful influence.
As far as supplements, Miror EPF is exhibiting promising results in patients. I don't believe there are any studies on it, I think it has been around about 5 years now, but according to my friend, who is a ND, and has seen thousands of clients over the years, who has been advising people on it's use for about 2 years now, he has seen very good results.
Keep in mind, that in a large number of these people have also changed around their lifestyles, but not in all of them, as far as I know.
There is black salve, another cancer non prescription medicine that has gotten favorable reviews over the years.
Of course, there is also oxygen therapy, i.e., hyperbaric chamber.
Also, importantly, there is the use of proteolytic, or sometimes called systemic enzymes, which in studies have been shown to
help shrink tumor mass. AST makes a good one, Vida defense
I would also advise a very good brand pro biotic, since science has shown that most disease starts in the gut. Progurt, and Proviotic are among the best brands.
Bio forte 13 is a green algae that does wonderful things to help the immune system.
E3 live is also helpful.

For healthy individuals as well, as all the above are great adjuncts as a way to help prevent getting cancer as well as for those who have it. Speaking of good regiments that can help prevent cancer, I would say going for a series of colonics every couple or three years is also advisable. It is another modality that helps with colon health.
So if one is looking for a 'miracle cure', don't get discouraged, but it probably is not out there. It took a lot of circumstances to get there, and it may take a lot of different and sometimes aggressive methods to come clean.

God bless and may the Lord give wisdom and knowledge to all those who ask.

The bible says my people perish because of a lack of knowledge, and that the life is in the blood.
 

blue_ladybug

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Mental and spiritual state does NOT play a role in getting cancer. You don't get cancer from not being spiritual enough, or TOO spiritual. Staying positive is essential, but cancer isn't caused by negativity.. Sometimes an operation takes care of the cancer, as it did with mine.. :)
 
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Mental and spiritual state does NOT play a role in getting cancer. You don't get cancer from not being spiritual enough, or TOO spiritual. Staying positive is essential, but cancer isn't caused by negativity.. Sometimes an operation takes care of the cancer, as it did with mine.. :)
Not completely true; there is a lot of evidence and opinion coming more and more to light that things like unforgiveness in particular can cause cancer.
 

JosephsDreams

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Mental and spiritual state does NOT play a role in getting cancer. You don't get cancer from not being spiritual enough, or TOO spiritual. Staying positive is essential, but cancer isn't caused by negativity.. Sometimes an operation takes care of the cancer, as it did with mine.. :)
Lady Blue, I did not ever say cancer was caused by negativity.
I said it can be a factor.
Have you not seen the studies that have proven that negative emotions are actually stored into our cells in a way that undermines our immune systems? I am guessing not?
If we are spiritually healthy, you don't believe that will affect our emotional outlook for the better? Ergo, our immune systems will be functioning at a higher rate.
You don't believe in the mind, body and spirit connection?
Doesn't the bible say there are many members to the body and they all work in harmony?
As far as our spiritual state not having a impact on our emotional state, you don't believe that, what the bible says about the fruits of the spirit, you know them; joy, love, peace, etc...make for a calmer emotional state, which leads to a improved physical state?
Do you believe the body has a infinite amount of energy? If so, that means you must never get tired. If you do believe that the body has to allocate it's available energies, wouldn't it make sense that a more serene emotional state would allow our body to use those energies, instead of using it on anger, worries, frustration, that it would use that energy toward repair, detox and healing?
Do you believe the body has it's own internal intelligence? That it can take energy and divert it toward the task needed most?


I realize that a operation can take care of cancer. My post indicated that there were many variables.

Joseph
 

JosephsDreams

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And BTW LB, God bless you, I pray that you live a healthy and fruitful life.
 

blue_ladybug

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Yeah if you drink hydrogen peroxide straight, it'll kill you. Or at least make you very uncomfortable. :(
 

Crustyone

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If you are thinking of trying H2O2 orally, I use about a teaspoon full of 3% food grade in an 8oz. glass of non-chlorinated water in the am. It should be taken 1 hour before eating and at least two hours after eating. Otherwise the stuff will react with food and foam in your intestines and, at the least be painful, and at the worst, it will burst an intestine. Don't take it before bed as the oxygen will keep you awake for a while. I don't remember why the chlorine is bad when mixed with it.
 

blue_ladybug

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Crustyone, I mean absolutely no offense by this but are you nuts?!! You're NOT supposed to drink hydrogen peroxide, even if it IS diluted!!! It says on the bottle "Do Not Drink" and "For topical use only". Topical means OUTER body, such as skin. You're braver than I am.. O_O lol
 
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Quickly went to go find a bottle, did we? (lol)

Crustyone, I mean absolutely no offense by this but are you nuts?!! You're NOT supposed to drink hydrogen peroxide, even if it IS diluted!!! It says on the bottle "Do Not Drink" and "For topical use only". Topical means OUTER body, such as skin. You're braver than I am.. O_O lol
 

Crustyone

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Lady Blue, the bottle you were looking at was probably brown and is not food grade. It is pharmaceutical grade, a notch below and they have to put that on the bottle because there are people out there who might try drinking it straight, maybe like AnnHoneywell? I am not brave, maybe crazy? I will say it has helped me stay awake after getting up 3 times a night to take my Alzheimer's sister to the bathroom. Broken sleep isn't fun when you have to actually think while you are up. Just a thought, but I am wondering if most of the rejuvenation we get from sleep isn't the re-oxygenating of our bodies. That of course, doesn't make up for the brain's dreaming, which mine must be doing some of since I haven't gone off the deep end yet, or have I?
 

JosephsDreams

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There are no reliable studies that show food grade hydrogen peroxide will cure cancer.
Additionally, a friend of mine who is a ND for over 40 years, says HP will not cure cancer.
Your wasting your time.
Also, anyone who is over around 35,, and is on a hydrogen peroxide regime, and is concerned with going grey, start investing in hair dye treatments soon.
I am not suggesting HP is not a wonderful natural treatment for certain ailments, it is. Cancer is not one of them.
Again, try the Miror EPF, the black salve, MMS, and change your diet and lifestyle.
The last two require the most work and a great of deal committent, so of course, those are the least applied by most people.

God bless and God watch over the sick and diseased.
 
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JosephsDreams

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It may possibly slow it down. But anyone looking to it as a cure is likely to be disapointed.
 

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If you are thinking of trying H2O2 orally, I use about a teaspoon full of 3% food grade in an 8oz. glass of non-chlorinated water in the am. It should be taken 1 hour before eating and at least two hours after eating. Otherwise the stuff will react with food and foam in your intestines and, at the least be painful, and at the worst, it will burst an intestine. Don't take it before bed as the oxygen will keep you awake for a while. I don't remember why the chlorine is bad when mixed with it.
If one teaspoon is good maybe a tablespoon is better. Gonna put it in my OJ.